Tirreno - Adriatico 2021 ***Spoilers***

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Geraint hoping to catch the second half of the rugby. Looking good.
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,756
    phreak said:

    Crikey, Kirby just doesn't shut up.

    Pronouncing Geraint Thomas with a French accent now
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    phreak said:

    Crikey, Kirby just doesn't shut up.

    It's hard to shut the fuck up in a moment such as this
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • All aboard the Wout train.
    Thomas hanging off the front, felt like a softening up attack but very slowly growing the gap
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    This is great. Much better racing than PN.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Pogacar is something else.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Cor blimey this is good
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    This is a fun watch. Pleased I timed (by chance) my ride to get back in for the final climb.
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,756
    What a stage this is now!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Pog v Rog by proxy
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    The ease Pog closed to Thomas was scary but Yates was closing well at the end. Disappointing by Thomas and Bernal in the end to finish behind WVA on a MTF.
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,756
    Yep. I thought Bernal was back, but maybe not.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,599
    Ineos need to start using the wonder supplement.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    ddraver said:

    Kinda hoping Gee takes DB at his word on ' the new style of Grenadiers racing' and YOLO's the last climb to disrupt the Big 3...

    Called it!

    That was fun!

    Slightly surprised Bernal's SB performance hasn't transferred to this...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • That was quality. Really enjoying the GCN app too

    Love the way Pog rides
  • ddraver said:

    ddraver said:

    Kinda hoping Gee takes DB at his word on ' the new style of Grenadiers racing' and YOLO's the last climb to disrupt the Big 3...

    Called it!

    That was fun!

    Slightly surprised Bernal's SB performance hasn't transferred to this...
    Agreed I was surprised to see my drop off particularly as he’d looked so sharp early on in the climb.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,599

    ddraver said:

    ddraver said:

    Kinda hoping Gee takes DB at his word on ' the new style of Grenadiers racing' and YOLO's the last climb to disrupt the Big 3...

    Called it!

    That was fun!

    Slightly surprised Bernal's SB performance hasn't transferred to this...
    Agreed I was surprised to see my drop off particularly as he’d looked so sharp early on in the climb.
    Was he dropped or did he just go back for Thomas who has a better TT?
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Sivakov was nowhere to be seen either. Surprisingly lacklustre performance from Ineos given that they had their entire team on the front at the foot of the climb. Great to see racing though rather than the "wait until the final 500m and sprint" approach.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    That means Nibali was about a minute and half faster today than when he won in 2012. I hope that's in to context how meaningless these timings are.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    RichN95. said:

    That means Nibali was about a minute and half faster today than when he won in 2012. I hope that's in to context how meaningless these timings are.

    It is still amazing how this young generation have almost immediately put the previous generation onto the back foot by some distance. Obviously it's a degree of speculation, but can you see Sagan winning anything with the current riders? Ditto Quintana, Thomas, Dumoulin et al. Even Bernal will have a job given the way the new breed can climb as well as him but also put a very strong time trial in.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited March 2021
    phreak said:

    RichN95. said:

    That means Nibali was about a minute and half faster today than when he won in 2012. I hope that's in to context how meaningless these timings are.

    It is still amazing how this young generation have almost immediately put the previous generation onto the back foot by some distance. Obviously it's a degree of speculation, but can you see Sagan winning anything with the current riders? Ditto Quintana, Thomas, Dumoulin et al. Even Bernal will have a job given the way the new breed can climb as well as him but also put a very strong time trial in.
    But of the repeat winners Valverde is 40, Gilbert 38, Froome is injured and Nibali is in his 17th season.

    Sagan has only won two monuments, Quintana hasn't been on a GT podium on his last six attempts. They were both supposed to rule the world at the age of 22. The much heralded 'class of 1990' didn't amount to much in the end. (Quintana, Bardet, Dumoulin, Aru, Pinot)

    But the question is will this lot surpass the achievements of those born between 1980 and 1985? (Froome, Contador, Nibali, Valverde, Gilbert, Boonen, Cancellara, Cavendish, Schleck, Wiggins, T.Martin etc)
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    That was, by a huge margin, so much better than the Paris-Nice mountain finish except...............
    .........in the commentary department.
    It’s a wonder his jawbone doesn’t catch fire from over heating
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • phreak said:

    Crikey, Kirby just doesn't shut up.

    Pronouncing Geraint Thomas with a French accent now
    Getting confused between Geraint Thomas and Benjamin Thomas. Classic Kirby
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    RichN95. said:

    phreak said:

    RichN95. said:

    That means Nibali was about a minute and half faster today than when he won in 2012. I hope that's in to context how meaningless these timings are.

    It is still amazing how this young generation have almost immediately put the previous generation onto the back foot by some distance. Obviously it's a degree of speculation, but can you see Sagan winning anything with the current riders? Ditto Quintana, Thomas, Dumoulin et al. Even Bernal will have a job given the way the new breed can climb as well as him but also put a very strong time trial in.
    But of the repeat winners Valverde is 40, Gilbert 38, Froome is injured and Nibali is in his 17th season.

    Sagan has only won two monuments, Quintana hasn't been on a GT podium on his last six attempts. They were both supposed to rule the world at the age of 22. The much heralded 'class of 1990' didn't amount to much in the end. (Quintana, Bardet, Dumoulin, Aru, Pinot)

    But the question is will this lot surpass the achievements of those born between 1980 and 1985? (Froome, Contador, Nibali, Valverde, Gilbert, Boonen, Cancellara, Cavendish, Schleck, Wiggins, T.Martin etc)
    Bit hard on Sagan there
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    phreak said:

    Sivakov was nowhere to be seen either. Surprisingly lacklustre performance from Ineos given that they had their entire team on the front at the foot of the climb. Great to see racing though rather than the "wait until the final 500m and sprint" approach.

    Given the time losses yesterday, they had to try and make a race of it. Which they did, and blew it apart. It didn't work but at least they gave it a shot. Pogacar will be buying them all a drink on Tuesday evening I think.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253



    Bit hard on Sagan there


    Yes, but I wasn't basing it on his whole career. I'm going more on the monuments where he's was supposed to be the heir to Cancellara/Boonen. Personally, I think the Van rivalry may work in his favour. I'm not writing him off yet.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Ok, so I guess it's time to put this out there. It came up in commentary yesterday and it became quite clear that Mr Kirby hadn't done his homework again, as he pretty much dismissed this in terms of the GC.



    So, basically 100kms of flat, followed by 100kms of a saw bladed rollercoaster.

    4 times up this.



    5 times up this.



    Plus half a dozen hidden lumps and bumps.
    Good luck!


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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473
    andyp said:

    phreak said:

    Sivakov was nowhere to be seen either. Surprisingly lacklustre performance from Ineos given that they had their entire team on the front at the foot of the climb. Great to see racing though rather than the "wait until the final 500m and sprint" approach.

    Given the time losses yesterday, they had to try and make a race of it. Which they did, and blew it apart. It didn't work but at least they gave it a shot. Pogacar will be buying them all a drink on Tuesday evening I think.
    Maybe Sivakov is the new Jungels?! 😛
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    edited March 2021
    m.r.m. said:


    Maybe Sivakov is the new Jungels?! 😛

    One minute he was there, though he looked like he was forcing too big a gear, then suddenly he was gone. Finished 10 minutes back in the end. Doesn't bode well for his Giro chances.