Tirreno - Adriatico 2021 ***Spoilers***

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    WvA MvdP
    and JA. Are going to spend their careers anchored together
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,756
    After all that excitement if came down to those 3 again!

    Great finish to the stage. Although not so good for Simon Yates.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,910
    1 Julian Alaphilippe (Fra) Deceuninck-QuickStep 5:01:32
    2 Mathieu van der Poel (Ned) Alpecin-Fenix
    3 Wout Van Aert (Bel) Jumbo-Visma
    4 Tadej Pogacar (Slo) UAE Team Emirates
    5 Alex Aranburu Deba (Spa) Astana-Premier Tech
    6 Robert Stannard (Aus) Team BikeExchange
    7 João Almeida (Por) Deceuninck-QuickStep
    8 Greg Van Avermaet (Bel) AG2R Citroën Team
    9 Tim Wellens (Bel) Lotto Soudal
    10 Giulio Ciccone (Ita) Trek-Segafredo
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    If Thomas hadn’t gone for it the explosive boys would have arrived late.
    Alaphilippe might have ended up pinching the win from Almeida.
    Would have made for an interesting team meal
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • cq20
    cq20 Posts: 207
    One of the better stages. Plenty of action and good to see a talented break at least have a chance of making it stick.

    I found the Kirby/Lloyd commentary less irritating than the Hatch/Blyth combo. Hatch rarely picks up on his co- commentators comments - probably too busy concentrating on displaying his linguistic skills when not virtue signalling that is
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    cq20 said:

    One of the better stages. Plenty of action and good to see a talented break at least have a chance of making it stick.

    I found the Kirby/Lloyd commentary less irritating than the Hatch/Blyth combo. Hatch rarely picks up on his co- commentators comments - probably too busy concentrating on displaying his linguistic skills when not virtue signalling that is


  • cq20
    cq20 Posts: 207
    Oh. Do I have to recant because the collective disagrees :)
  • cq20
    cq20 Posts: 207
    Although not to do with Tirreno - Adriatico, and whilst I’m on a roll, I might as well say that I enjoyed seeing the competitors using proper bikes rather than the TT stuff in today’s women’s Healthy Ageing tour stage. A very traditional TT course as well - not the most picturesque stage but it’s good to see the TV coverage for these teams
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,756

    If Thomas hadn’t gone for it the explosive boys would have arrived late.
    Alaphilippe might have ended up pinching the win from Almeida.
    Would have made for an interesting team meal

    Quite right. I genuinely thought for a second that is exactly what he had done.

    I suppose it shows the instinct that the top guys need to have. If I was in his position (making the huge assumption that I had the required skill and fitness) I would have probably held back for a second out of the fear of beating a team-mate and the team would have lost the stage. He obviously didn't worry for a moment about those sort of consequences and got the victory.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    I guess Thomas didn't want Almeida to get any seconds on Bernal ahead of the proper climbing. There was nobody going to beat the big three on that sprint.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Probably yeahz but Gee's got a bit of a sprint on 'im...

    Worth a crack
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652

    Thanks for this - helps me decide which one to watch whilst I'm supposedly in a review meeting

    NINE F***ING HOURS in a Teams workshop. Didn't catch a second.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    cq20 said:

    Oh. Do I have to recant because the collective disagrees :)

    At least Hatch actually recognises more than 3 riders...
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    This is pretty astonishing. Will end this week though.

  • flasher
    flasher Posts: 1,734
    Alaphilippe needs to race to the line before he celebrates!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    andyp said:

    This is pretty astonishing. Will end this week though.


    It's only five races. And for them all to be there it has to be something that is tailored to their characteristics
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:

    This is pretty astonishing. Will end this week though.


    It's only five races. And for them all to be there it has to be something that is tailored to their characteristics
    Flanders 2020 (MVDP) is one . Strade Bianche 2021 (MVDP) is another. Yesterday (JA) and the day before (WVA) are two more. What's the last one? Did MVDP ride MSR last year?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    edited March 2021
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    edited March 2021
    Deleted because it's wrong.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    edited March 2021

    Deleted because it's wrong.

    Yes, because otherwise GCN were talking through their collective bottoms. :p
    MvDP did ride Milan-San Remo though.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    edited March 2021

    Deleted because it's wrong.

    Yes, because otherwise GCN were talking through their collective bottoms. :p
    MvDP did ride Milan-San Remo though.
    I'm going to reinstate it because it actually was right :)

    MVDP and Alaphillippe have been in the same race 11 times. (7 of those also had Van Aert in.)

    Of those 11, MVDP won 4, Alaphillippe won 2, Van Aert won 3. Everyone else won two. (Roglic and Pedersen).

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:

    This is pretty astonishing. Will end this week though.


    It's only five races. And for them all to be there it has to be something that is tailored to their characteristics
    Two stages of Tirreno Adriatico 2021, the last two Strade Bianche, RVV 2020, MSR 2020 and Amstel Gold 2019. Seven races.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited March 2021
    We're being spoiled by this generation of one day riders.

    Sagan, WvA, MvdP, JA, yikes.

    And that's before you get to the Pedersons of this world who ride with intelligence.

    Beats the era when Terpstra and GvA were the top riders for flattish one dayers.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    WvA to win today, and one of the others to drop out so they aren't all starting tomorrow when they probably aren't winning. Keep the streak going.

    It's a great rivalry already.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Can't see anybody breaking their monopoly on today's route.


    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,910

    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:

    This is pretty astonishing. Will end this week though.


    It's only five races. And for them all to be there it has to be something that is tailored to their characteristics
    Two stages of Tirreno Adriatico 2021, the last two Strade Bianche, RVV 2020, MSR 2020 and Amstel Gold 2019. Seven races.
    So, what you're saying is that @RichN95. was wrong?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253

    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:

    This is pretty astonishing. Will end this week though.


    It's only five races. And for them all to be there it has to be something that is tailored to their characteristics
    Two stages of Tirreno Adriatico 2021, the last two Strade Bianche, RVV 2020, MSR 2020 and Amstel Gold 2019. Seven races.
    So, what you're saying is that @RichN95. was wrong?

    It happens. I just looked for races that Alaphilippe and VdP both started and looked to see if van Aert was in them. He must have finished low down (or DNF) in a couple and I missed him
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    edited March 2021
    RichN95. said:

    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:

    This is pretty astonishing. Will end this week though.


    It's only five races. And for them all to be there it has to be something that is tailored to their characteristics
    Two stages of Tirreno Adriatico 2021, the last two Strade Bianche, RVV 2020, MSR 2020 and Amstel Gold 2019. Seven races.
    So, what you're saying is that @RichN95. was wrong?

    It happens. I just looked for races that Alaphilippe and VdP both started and looked to see if van Aert was in them. He must have finished low down (or DNF) in a couple and I missed him
    Remarkably, WvA was top 4 in all except Amstel Gold, where he was 58th. Incredible really.

    Also, I love a spreadsheet.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Do you think JA would be a better mountain domestique than WvA if needed?