The Royals
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... kind of easy when you are born into privilege... and of course he lived through WW2 and served in the navy, which adds a bit of drama and adventure.shirley_basso said:
Philip in particular has had the most incredible life.
Of course, he could have grown up to be a twxt, like his son Andrew, but he didn't... good on himleft the forum March 20230 -
He was exiled from Greece at 18 months his four older sisters married Germans, his mother developed schizophrenia and was confined to an asylum; his father moved to Monte Carlo leaving him in Britain all before he was a teenager. He seems pretty normal all things considered.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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See rjsterry's post. An incredible life, if you can try not to be so narrow minded.ugo.santalucia said:
... kind of easy when you are born into privilege... and of course he lived through WW2 and served in the navy, which adds a bit of drama and adventure.shirley_basso said:
Philip in particular has had the most incredible life.
Of course, he could have grown up to be a twxt, like his son Andrew, but he didn't... good on him1 -
I've thought for a while that the TV licence should be re-branded as a communication tax and not be optional and this is sort of reconfirming that idea.rick_chasey said:
Isn't it more that republicans pay their licence fee too, so changing the entire output for a dead consort is taking it too far? It makes you feel like like only one opinion on the matter entitled on the state broadcaster, which is why it generates a bad feeling.shirley_basso said:To you, perhaps.
I feel you have an issue with sympathy / empathy or understanding others, as opposed to just projecting what you think / your experience of other countries onto what everyone else should think.
Some people adore the royal family and Philip has been in 'role' for many people's entire lifetimes. The coverage also plays nicely into the gov'ts hands as it builds nationalist sentiment. I wonder what they have managed to sign away during the last few days while everyone has been distracted.
I agree it's over the top, but so is your protesting.
No-one is saying it shouldn't get some coverage. I must say I don't feel any necessity to show more deference to a dead royal than to a dead normal person, but I also understand that's not shared.1 -
Why? Because the state broadcaster offers an extremely narrow view of the death of a consort?Pross said:
I've thought for a while that the TV licence should be re-branded as a communication tax and not be optional and this is sort of reconfirming that idea.rick_chasey said:
Isn't it more that republicans pay their licence fee too, so changing the entire output for a dead consort is taking it too far? It makes you feel like like only one opinion on the matter entitled on the state broadcaster, which is why it generates a bad feeling.shirley_basso said:To you, perhaps.
I feel you have an issue with sympathy / empathy or understanding others, as opposed to just projecting what you think / your experience of other countries onto what everyone else should think.
Some people adore the royal family and Philip has been in 'role' for many people's entire lifetimes. The coverage also plays nicely into the gov'ts hands as it builds nationalist sentiment. I wonder what they have managed to sign away during the last few days while everyone has been distracted.
I agree it's over the top, but so is your protesting.
No-one is saying it shouldn't get some coverage. I must say I don't feel any necessity to show more deference to a dead royal than to a dead normal person, but I also understand that's not shared.0 -
As I said, I saw The Crown... I don't think we are ever going to agree on this. I never said that his life shouldn't have been celebrated, but there should have been a bit more balance...rjsterry said:He was exiled from Greece at 18 months his four older sisters married Germans, his mother developed schizophrenia and was confined to an asylum; his father moved to Monte Carlo leaving him in Britain all before he was a teenager. He seems pretty normal all things considered.
Anyway... moving onleft the forum March 20230 -
From what I've gathered from the news coverage over the last few days, I may be the only person in the country who doesn't have an amusing anecdote about meeting the Duke of Edinburgh.
I've emailed The BBC offering an interview.0 -
Too late.oblongomaculatus said:From what I've gathered from the news coverage over the last few days, I may be the only person in the country who doesn't have an amusing anecdote about meeting the Duke of Edinburgh.
I've emailed The BBC offering an interview.
Happily blanket coverage of Masterchef has now been restored, so we can all move on to whining about repeats."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I just found out yesterday that a cousin of mine has been all over the TV being interviewed as a close friend of the DoE. Oh well.0
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No, mainly because you regularly hear people saying "I don't watch BBC / live TV so why should I pay for a TV licence" or that paying the licence fee gives a right to comment on BBC content. It hasn't kept pace with the times, make it a tax and use it to fund communication infrastructure such as broadband to remote areas as well as the current BBC finance. Every household pays so there are no grey areas about whether you watch traditional TV or not.rick_chasey said:
Why? Because the state broadcaster offers an extremely narrow view of the death of a consort?Pross said:
I've thought for a while that the TV licence should be re-branded as a communication tax and not be optional and this is sort of reconfirming that idea.rick_chasey said:
Isn't it more that republicans pay their licence fee too, so changing the entire output for a dead consort is taking it too far? It makes you feel like like only one opinion on the matter entitled on the state broadcaster, which is why it generates a bad feeling.shirley_basso said:To you, perhaps.
I feel you have an issue with sympathy / empathy or understanding others, as opposed to just projecting what you think / your experience of other countries onto what everyone else should think.
Some people adore the royal family and Philip has been in 'role' for many people's entire lifetimes. The coverage also plays nicely into the gov'ts hands as it builds nationalist sentiment. I wonder what they have managed to sign away during the last few days while everyone has been distracted.
I agree it's over the top, but so is your protesting.
No-one is saying it shouldn't get some coverage. I must say I don't feel any necessity to show more deference to a dead royal than to a dead normal person, but I also understand that's not shared.0 -
I honestly have no issue with the licence fee. I'm happy to pay it to keep the beeb ad free and to have a proper public service broadcaster that knocks out some decent content.3
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I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.0 -
What would be an acceptable resolution to that complaint though?oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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An acknowledgement that simultaneous and uninterrupted coverage on BBC1, BBC2 and The BBC News Channel for the whole day was, after reflection, excessive, and a promise to be more proportionate in the future. The BBC has admitted to too much coverage of events before, and with far less saturation coverage than was the case last week.pangolin said:
What would be an acceptable resolution to that complaint though?oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.
But, as someone else has pointed out, if you think the media was over the top (and to be fair to the BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Sky News were doing something similar; only not for so long) wait until Mrs Queen goes…0 -
An acknowledgement that on reflection simultaneous uninterrupted coverage on BBC1, BBC2 and the BBC News channel for the whole day was excessive, and a promise to be more proportionate in future. The BBC has admitted as much over coverage of other events in the past, events which received far less saturation coverage than was the case last week.pangolin said:
What would be an acceptable resolution to that complaint though?oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.
To be fair to the BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Sky News were all doing something similar (only not for so long).
And as someone else has pointed out, if you think the coverage was way over the top, just wait until Mrs Queen goes. The death of Prince Phillip is going to look like an "and finally…" item by comparison.2 -
Anyone else see that the census team of all people were called off "out of respect" for a few days?0
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I can't imagine what they'd do if say she died on a day England had an important world cup game or the European Championship final at Wembley.
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Well yeah, where else can they go with the Queen's death, given they went this far for a consort?oblongomaculatus said:
An acknowledgement that on reflection simultaneous uninterrupted coverage on BBC1, BBC2 and the BBC News channel for the whole day was excessive, and a promise to be more proportionate in future. The BBC has admitted as much over coverage of other events in the past, events which received far less saturation coverage than was the case last week.pangolin said:
What would be an acceptable resolution to that complaint though?oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.
To be fair to the BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Sky News were all doing something similar (only not for so long).
And as someone else has pointed out, if you think the coverage was way over the top, just wait until Mrs Queen goes. The death of Prince Phillip is going to look like an "and finally…" item by comparison.
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Don't forget to add 24 hour coverage for the state funeral... biggest since Tito's, I suspectrick_chasey said:
Well yeah, where else can they go with the Queen's death, given they went this far for a consort?left the forum March 20230 -
If you want to "see who has made the cut for the royal event".[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
... and the news we were all waiting for, the all important "who's going to walk alongside the coffin" hopefully nobody will be disappointed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56761074left the forum March 20230 -
It'll be the same, only go on much much longer. I suspect the Government will get more involved too. We've seen from the pandemic that it has frightening powers to invoke instant new laws on the fly, and it's got a taste for it now, so expect such things as the mandatory wearing of black, the prosecution of anyone who makes a joke about her death, Forcing people to stand to attention in the street on the day of the funeral, 5 year jail terms for any radio dj who plays the ding dong song from the Wizard of Oz… things even more ridiculous than anyone can imagine.rick_chasey said:
Well yeah, where else can they go with the Queen's death, given they went this far for a consort?oblongomaculatus said:
An acknowledgement that on reflection simultaneous uninterrupted coverage on BBC1, BBC2 and the BBC News channel for the whole day was excessive, and a promise to be more proportionate in future. The BBC has admitted as much over coverage of other events in the past, events which received far less saturation coverage than was the case last week.pangolin said:
What would be an acceptable resolution to that complaint though?oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.
To be fair to the BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Sky News were all doing something similar (only not for so long).
And as someone else has pointed out, if you think the coverage was way over the top, just wait until Mrs Queen goes. The death of Prince Phillip is going to look like an "and finally…" item by comparison.0 -
Waitrose had an a frame outside with some comments about his sad passing.
Aldi had nothing.
I've complained to the BBC.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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About Waitrose or about Aldi?pangolin said:Waitrose had an a frame outside with some comments about his sad passing.
Aldi had nothing.
I've complained to the BBC.0 -
They're only showing the funeral on one bbc channel. That's progress, and the complaints maybe helped with that decision.oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.0 -
Oh neither the complaint was that neither had my shampoo.oblongomaculatus said:
About Waitrose or about Aldi?pangolin said:Waitrose had an a frame outside with some comments about his sad passing.
Aldi had nothing.
I've complained to the BBC.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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kingstongraham said:
They're only showing the funeral on one bbc channel. That's progress, and the complaints maybe helped with that decision.oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.
As long as all presenters on all channels are wearing black armbands until... whenever.0 -
Really? Maybe they did. All 109,000 of them, including mine. A new record, nearly twice as many as the next most complained about thing.kingstongraham said:
They're only showing the funeral on one bbc channel. That's progress, and the complaints maybe helped with that decision.oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.1 -
Time to move on and cook that winning Masterchef meal.oblongomaculatus said:
Really? Maybe they did. All 109,000 of them, including mine. A new record, nearly twice as many as the next most complained about thing.kingstongraham said:
They're only showing the funeral on one bbc channel. That's progress, and the complaints maybe helped with that decision.oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Never seen it.blazing_saddles said:
Time to move on and cook that winning Masterchef meal.oblongomaculatus said:
Really? Maybe they did. All 109,000 of them, including mine. A new record, nearly twice as many as the next most complained about thing.kingstongraham said:
They're only showing the funeral on one bbc channel. That's progress, and the complaints maybe helped with that decision.oblongomaculatus said:I was sufficiently annoyed by the BBC blanket coverage to complain last week. I've just received a response, apparently sent to everyone who complained. You can probably guess the substance, but anyway, here it is
The passing of HRH the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally.
We acknowledge your complaint about the level of coverage, particularly in relation to the BBC News Special simultaneously broadcasting on BBC One and Two on Friday 9 April. We do not make such changes to billed schedules without careful consideration.
The decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
We are grateful for your feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences. Your comments have been shared with senior management.
Or in other words, up yours.0
