The Rugby Thread
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Pretty full of Scottish pounds over the last 15 minutes!orraloon said:Previously I was going to suggest the Kiwi ref's bank account needed checking. Not so much now.
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So who is going to get the inevitable penalty?0
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Ref bottling it.0
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How on earth is that not a penalty. The ref is totally bottling this.
Every other time in the match he gives the penalty.0 -
I thought they'd done away with being allowed to kick the ball dead like that.0
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It was either a penalty or the ball was out so don't know how he went with a resetDorset_Boy said:How on earth is that not a penalty. The ref is totally bottling this.
Every other time in the match he gives the penalty.0 -
Ooyah, close. Now then bring on 'yes sir I can boogie...'! Celebrate good times, come on 😊0
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I thought the ref heavily favoured England…….right up until he didn’t.
Anyhow, overall it evened out and the game ultimately turned on one moment of madness."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.1 -
I've watched this over and over...
The guy jumps up, he's at full stretch and descending when he makes contact with the ball, he does his best to control the ball (with the finger tips). so no way is this a penalty try
I'm not even going to the yellow card thing
This is one moment in time, slowed by modern technology
Yes I'm bias, yes I'm English, but come on...
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You really think he's making an effort to catch the ball?Charlie_Croker said:I've watched this over and over...
The guy jumps up, he's at full stretch and descending when he makes contact with the ball, he does his best to control the ball (with the finger tips). so no way is this a penalty try
I'm not even going to the yellow card thing
This is one moment in time, slowed by modern technology
Yes I'm bias, yes I'm English, but come on...
If not, he's definitely flapping his hands forwards at it, so trying to knock it forwards or out of play. Both penalty offences.0 -
It's near as dammit a volleyball slap across the net. There are things that can be discussed (refereeing or replacements?) but that act of stupidity cost the match.Charlie_Croker said:
This is one moment in time, slowed by modern technology
Yes I'm bias, yes I'm English, but come on...The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
It's one of the most blatant examples I can remember. Look at the direction he moves his hands. If you are going for the ball you have to have a realistic chance you are going to catch it, it's the same as when people go one handed for an interception and knock on.
The only doubt on whether it should have been a penalty try is, as DB says, whether the Scottish player would have caught it for certain. If it was a penalty try the yellow is to all intents and purposes automatic.0 -
Stupid thing is that if he'd just tried to catch it, it might have been an accidental knock on, or even possibly ruled a challenge in the air by the Scottish player.0
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Unfortunately, that doesn't enter into the equation.Pross said:It's one of the most blatant examples I can remember. Look at the direction he moves his hands. If you are going for the ball you have to have a realistic chance you are going to catch it, it's the same as when people go one handed for an interception and knock on.
The only doubt on whether it should have been a penalty try is, as DB says, whether the Scottish player would have caught it for certain. If it was a penalty try the yellow is to all intents and purposes automatic.
It's treated exactly the same as when a defender deliberately knocks on a final pass: there's no certainty that the attacking player will catch that final pass.
The only doubt allowed under the rules is whether or not there is any covering defence. Which, in this case, there clearly was not.
Anyhow, Luke Cowan-Dickie has held his hand up an apologised for the rush of blood. Boss Eddie is cool about it.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Charlie_Croker said:
I've watched this over and over...
The guy jumps up, he's at full stretch and descending when he makes contact with the ball, he does his best to control the ball (with the finger tips). so no way is this a penalty try
I'm not even going to the yellow card thing
This is one moment in time, slowed by modern technology
Yes I'm bias, yes I'm English, but come on...
LOL
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Has Sue Gray concluded her report on this yet?joe2019 said:Charlie_Croker said:I've watched this over and over...
The guy jumps up, he's at full stretch and descending when he makes contact with the ball, he does his best to control the ball (with the finger tips). so no way is this a penalty try
I'm not even going to the yellow card thing
This is one moment in time, slowed by modern technology
Yes I'm bias, yes I'm English, but come on...
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France currently making heavy weather of taking down Italy."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
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I'm hoping, but pretty sure it's a forlorn hope.blazing_saddles said:France currently making heavy weather of taking down Italy.
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Italy now looking like Wales did yesterday: on the ropes, soaking up punishment."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
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Typical Italian performace. They are competitive for 60 minutes during a match but concede too much in the 20 when they're not. Mind you I think gthe final try was a little unfair on Italy who certainly didn't fold in the final quarter.
It's a shame it isn't Wales going to Rome next weekend!0 -
One thing I noticed yesterday is that Sonia McLaughlin hasn't improved her interview technique after last year's farce.0
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Quality is the last thing that the BBC worries about these days.Pross said:One thing I noticed yesterday is that Sonia McLaughlin hasn't improved her interview technique after last year's farce.
I also notice that they've already had their full quota of England matches for this 6 Nations.
Sad, just how far the once mighty has fallen."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
If that means we don't have to put up with that moron Eddie Butler, then thank the lord! Average No8, average journo, dreadfully dire commentator.blazing_saddles said:
Quality is the last thing that the BBC worries about these days.Pross said:One thing I noticed yesterday is that Sonia McLaughlin hasn't improved her interview technique after last year's farce.
I also notice that they've already had their full quota of England matches for this 6 Nations.
Sad, just how far the once mighty has fallen.0 -
How do you feel about your old boy Guscott getting the order of the boot from the BBC?Dorset_Boy said:
If that means we don't have to put up with that moron Eddie Butler, then thank the lord! Average No8, average journo, dreadfully dire commentator.blazing_saddles said:
Quality is the last thing that the BBC worries about these days.Pross said:One thing I noticed yesterday is that Sonia McLaughlin hasn't improved her interview technique after last year's farce.
I also notice that they've already had their full quota of England matches for this 6 Nations.
Sad, just how far the once mighty has fallen.
I know a lot of English fans hate his guts but I’ve always thought he was a lot more honest with his opinion than Jiffy, for instance.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Could you have squeezed him and BOD into the same team?!!blazing_saddles said:
How do you feel about your old boy Guscott getting the order of the boot from the BBC?Dorset_Boy said:
If that means we don't have to put up with that moron Eddie Butler, then thank the lord! Average No8, average journo, dreadfully dire commentator.blazing_saddles said:
Quality is the last thing that the BBC worries about these days.Pross said:One thing I noticed yesterday is that Sonia McLaughlin hasn't improved her interview technique after last year's farce.
I also notice that they've already had their full quota of England matches for this 6 Nations.
Sad, just how far the once mighty has fallen.
I know a lot of English fans hate his guts but I’ve always thought he was a lot more honest with his opinion than Jiffy, for instance.
I didn't mind his punditry but think there are now better options out there. Jiffy used not to be too bad when he wasn't on a Welsh match, and didn't get over excited when there was space out wide!
Not keen on Moore, and Moore and Butler together were awful. Amazed Butler wasn't sacked years ago - the BBC must have a library full of complaints about him.
I like BOD as a pundit a lot, and POC has been very good too. Sam W is excellent as well. Jonno shouldn't be there. Jonny W is good too. Andy Nicoll is almost as bad as Butler, same for Chris Paterson and Scott Hastings.0 -
I agree that the Butler/Moore combo, although often used, were pretty awful.
Sounds like our Brian took a sarcastic swipe at the Beeb on his way out of the door.
I too find the Irish (BOD, POC, Jamie H) good, but the Scots bad. One exception being the recent addition of John Barclay. I reckon he’s very, very good."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Agree, John Barclay is another good'un.blazing_saddles said:I agree that the Butler/Moore combo, although often used, were pretty awful.
Sounds like our Brian took a sarcastic swipe at the Beeb on his way out of the door.
I too find the Irish (BOD, POC, Jamie H) good, but the Scots bad. One exception being the recent addition of John Barclay. I reckon he’s very, very good.
The key is removing their tinted glasses and being objective without national bias. The best pundits achieve this and give good insight.
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They also need to avoid the 'it was so much better in my day' approach.Dorset_Boy said:
Agree, John Barclay is another good'un.blazing_saddles said:I agree that the Butler/Moore combo, although often used, were pretty awful.
Sounds like our Brian took a sarcastic swipe at the Beeb on his way out of the door.
I too find the Irish (BOD, POC, Jamie H) good, but the Scots bad. One exception being the recent addition of John Barclay. I reckon he’s very, very good.
The key is removing their tinted glasses and being objective without national bias. The best pundits achieve this and give good insight.0
