Should Chris Froome swallow his pride and retire?
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Maybe we need a leg ends team for ex-world tour greats to be consigned to, once they begin to decline, that isn't judged by the normal world tour team qualifying criteria.
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5m euros does seem a lot for fetching bottles before it speeds up on a flat stage.pblakeney said:
As andyp says.kingstongraham said:What domestique work does he actually do these days though? He seemed to be getting towards the form in 2020 where he could do a bit at the bottom of a climb at the end of mountain stage, but last year he was riding with Greipel rather than Woods, and this year so far much the same.
Note I didn't say super domestique. 😉0 -
My guess is that he knows he will not be competing for the podium so why bother.phreak said:
You'd think he could ride for himself in time trials though seeing as they're generally under an hour in length, and yet he still comes about 90th at best in those.andyp said:An awful lot of domestique work goes on before tv coverage starts, so it's not like you see what he's up to. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on this week, as he seemed to suggest last week during the Tour of the Alps, that he'd be aiming for some good results this week.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
So all the talk of a return to form being just around the corner is to keep him in the headlines and justify the huge fee for not doing much?pblakeney said:
My guess is that he knows he will not be competing for the podium so why bother.phreak said:
You'd think he could ride for himself in time trials though seeing as they're generally under an hour in length, and yet he still comes about 90th at best in those.andyp said:An awful lot of domestique work goes on before tv coverage starts, so it's not like you see what he's up to. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on this week, as he seemed to suggest last week during the Tour of the Alps, that he'd be aiming for some good results this week.
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That's my opinion. Not that it is worth much.phreak said:
So all the talk of a return to form being just around the corner is to keep him in the headlines and justify the huge fee for not doing much?pblakeney said:
My guess is that he knows he will not be competing for the podium so why bother.phreak said:
You'd think he could ride for himself in time trials though seeing as they're generally under an hour in length, and yet he still comes about 90th at best in those.andyp said:An awful lot of domestique work goes on before tv coverage starts, so it's not like you see what he's up to. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on this week, as he seemed to suggest last week during the Tour of the Alps, that he'd be aiming for some good results this week.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
that's why he isn't going to retire.kingstongraham said:
5m euros does seem a lot for fetching bottles before it speeds up on a flat stage.pblakeney said:
As andyp says.kingstongraham said:What domestique work does he actually do these days though? He seemed to be getting towards the form in 2020 where he could do a bit at the bottom of a climb at the end of mountain stage, but last year he was riding with Greipel rather than Woods, and this year so far much the same.
Note I didn't say super domestique. 😉
if that was your gig would you?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I'd do it for even less.MattFalle said:
that's why he isn't going to retire.kingstongraham said:
5m euros does seem a lot for fetching bottles before it speeds up on a flat stage.pblakeney said:
As andyp says.kingstongraham said:What domestique work does he actually do these days though? He seemed to be getting towards the form in 2020 where he could do a bit at the bottom of a climb at the end of mountain stage, but last year he was riding with Greipel rather than Woods, and this year so far much the same.
Note I didn't say super domestique. 😉
if that was your gig would you?0 -
given that he's actually doing it for more, I reckon he wakes up each morning literally crying with laughter.kingstongraham said:
I'd do it for even less.MattFalle said:
that's why he isn't going to retire.kingstongraham said:
5m euros does seem a lot for fetching bottles before it speeds up on a flat stage.pblakeney said:
As andyp says.kingstongraham said:What domestique work does he actually do these days though? He seemed to be getting towards the form in 2020 where he could do a bit at the bottom of a climb at the end of mountain stage, but last year he was riding with Greipel rather than Woods, and this year so far much the same.
Note I didn't say super domestique. 😉
if that was your gig would you?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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He maybe had another Tour in him the year he crashed although I remember him thinking he could win another 4 !!!Pross said:The issue for Froome is that even if he got back to his pre-crash form he had probably gone beyond his peak at the time of the crash and it would be unlikely, even without the crash, that he would be contending against Pogacar or Roglic at this stage. I wouldn't be surprised if he had retired by now.
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Worst Brit in today's Romandie prologue.0
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He just looked slow.andyp said:Worst Brit in today's Romandie prologue.
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He gets dropped when riders are doing 5.5 W/kg. I don't think there is any hope left.phreak said:
You'd think he could ride for himself in time trials though seeing as they're generally under an hour in length, and yet he still comes about 90th at best in those.andyp said:An awful lot of domestique work goes on before tv coverage starts, so it's not like you see what he's up to. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on this week, as he seemed to suggest last week during the Tour of the Alps, that he'd be aiming for some good results this week.
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I thought he had another 2 or 3 in him. There didn't really seem much of a challenge coming through at that point. Roglic was a late to the game relative novice who looked like a podium contender, I wasn't convinced Dumoulin could climb with the best and the other potential contenders were Froome's domestiques.davidof said:
He maybe had another Tour in him the year he crashed although I remember him thinking he could win another 4 !!!Pross said:The issue for Froome is that even if he got back to his pre-crash form he had probably gone beyond his peak at the time of the crash and it would be unlikely, even without the crash, that he would be contending against Pogacar or Roglic at this stage. I wouldn't be surprised if he had retired by now.
It's amazing how much the peloton has change in 3 or 4 years, a real generational shift.3 -
If he was a former champion racehorse getting tailed off in races, they'd soon call time and pack him off to stud.....
In cold performance terms, he's miles off being competitive - and doesn't appear to have made much improvement. However, if him, and his team think it's worthwhile to continue, then good luck to them. He may actually still enjoy the process of training, and the racing.....
After a hugely successful career, he's earned the right to go out on his own terms.All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."1 -
surely when he stops being paid is up to the sponsors?andyrac said:If he was a former champion racehorse getting tailed off in races, they'd soon call time and pack him off to stud.....
In cold performance terms, he's miles off being competitive - and doesn't appear to have made much improvement. However, if him, and his team think it's worthwhile to continue, then good luck to them. He may actually still enjoy the process of training, and the racing.....
After a hugely successful career, he's earned the right to go out on his own terms.
he may want to continue racing, the sponsors may not want to waste €5.5 million a year on a bloke who rides mid pack and isn't even getting the headlines any more..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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When at Sky/Ineos he did almost zero publicity, PR or product placement. These days he seems to be very much more monetised and has a stronger social media presence, I guess that's all part of the new career path and makes up some of the shortfall in actual results.
I'm pretty sceptical how much added value that brings, time moves on fast in pro cycling and only really a few riders maintain 'legendary' status and I doubt he's one of them, despite the TDF palmares.
All that said, good luck to him, after having his career ended so harshly (in real terms) I don't begrudge him a decent fade away.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0 -
ddraver said:
Jesus, there's an image...🥴andyrac said:If he was a former champion racehorse getting tailed off in races, they'd soon call time and pack him off to stud.....
You can picture the sticking out elbows!ddraver said:
Jesus, there's an image...🥴andyrac said:If he was a former champion racehorse getting tailed off in races, they'd soon call time and pack him off to stud.....
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You are right. When I said "another tour" I didn't preclude more, I thought 4 was a big ask at the time but it is true I didn't really see the rivals bar an Egan Bernal.Pross said:
I thought he had another 2 or 3 in him. There didn't really seem much of a challenge coming through at that point. Roglic was a late to the game relative novice who looked like a podium contender, I wasn't convinced Dumoulin could climb with the best and the other potential contenders were Froome's domestiques.
It's amazing how much the peloton has change in 3 or 4 years, a real generational shift.
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Staring at his stem?seanoconn said:ddraver said:
Jesus, there's an image...🥴andyrac said:If he was a former champion racehorse getting tailed off in races, they'd soon call time and pack him off to stud.....
You can picture the sticking out elbows!ddraver said:
Jesus, there's an image...🥴andyrac said:If he was a former champion racehorse getting tailed off in races, they'd soon call time and pack him off to stud.....
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Indeed…davidof said:
You are right. When I said "another tour" I didn't preclude more, I thought 4 was a big ask at the time but it is true I didn't really see the rivals bar an Egan Bernal.Pross said:
I thought he had another 2 or 3 in him. There didn't really seem much of a challenge coming through at that point. Roglic was a late to the game relative novice who looked like a podium contender, I wasn't convinced Dumoulin could climb with the best and the other potential contenders were Froome's domestiques.
It's amazing how much the peloton has change in 3 or 4 years, a real generational shift.
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So do I 😆m.r.m. said:
He gets dropped when riders are doing 5.5 W/kg.phreak said:
You'd think he could ride for himself in time trials though seeing as they're generally under an hour in length, and yet he still comes about 90th at best in those.andyp said:An awful lot of domestique work goes on before tv coverage starts, so it's not like you see what he's up to. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on this week, as he seemed to suggest last week during the Tour of the Alps, that he'd be aiming for some good results this week.
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I don't get paid €5.5m/annum.
That's my excuse. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Currently sat towards the front of the Peloton with just under 25km to go in Tour de Romandie. Can't be feeling too bad...0
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You were saying?feelgoodlost said:Currently sat towards the front of the Peloton with just under 25km to go in Tour de Romandie. Can't be feeling too bad...
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Certainly an improvement on being shelled before the cameras even start rolling!kingstongraham said:
You were saying?feelgoodlost said:Currently sat towards the front of the Peloton with just under 25km to go in Tour de Romandie. Can't be feeling too bad...
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As soon as Ineos went to the front, he was straight out the back.feelgoodlost said:
Certainly an improvement on being shelled before the cameras even start rolling!kingstongraham said:
You were saying?feelgoodlost said:Currently sat towards the front of the Peloton with just under 25km to go in Tour de Romandie. Can't be feeling too bad...
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not at the front, near the front and the shelled straight out the back.feelgoodlost said:Currently sat towards the front of the Peloton with just under 25km to go in Tour de Romandie. Can't be feeling too bad...
#graspingatstraws.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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