Bianchi to be bike suppliers to GreenEDGE from next year
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That is true, but it’s their best currently manufactured bike.gsk82 said:The xr4 isn't even Bianchi's best bike.
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But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?
After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.
From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.
#confused.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.2 -
I nearly bought a chimpanzee.
In the end I got an orangutan instead. While it was a bit heavier and more expensive, it was far more forgiving and gentle.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
But the Bianchi comes in a pretty colour.MattFalle said:But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?
After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.
From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.
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Anything can come in any color. its just color. a color from the factory isn't worth buying a bike that isn't as good - in many planes - as another.Jezyboy said:
But the Bianchi comes in a pretty colour.MattFalle said:But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?
After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.
From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.
#confused
#color
#TDKBOMB.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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When something is coming I have little regard to the colour.MattFalle said:
Anything can come in any color. its just color. a color from the factory isn't worth buying a bike that isn't as good - in many planes - as another.Jezyboy said:
But the Bianchi comes in a pretty colour.MattFalle said:But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?
After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.
From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.
#confused
#color
#TDKBOMBThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I prefer it with rim brakes0
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It is definitely an enigma. The design and materials used in the CV framed XR4 are so good, that the ‘weight penalty’ is not really a penalty. It’s stiff enough to allow all the power to transfer to moving it forward ( particularly out of the saddle ) and yet it’s not harsh to ride ( like the F12 ). On a long effort, I certainly found I felt far fresher on the Bianchi, than the F12, although admittedly there wasn’t as much in it between the F10 and the XR4. The version of the XR4 used by J.V. was the older rim braked design, the disc braked frame is different enough to warrant a new designation, but that’s not Bianchi’s way. I did have a Super six on loan for a couple of months, and it has the compliance of the Bianchi, but it’s as harsh as the F12. The fact that Bianchi haven’t seen fit to change anything on an ‘old frame design’ speaks volumes. I’m still waiting for my new specialissima, but the notoriously slow supply chain is practically at a standstill at the moment. I can’t see me getting it much before the middle of next year, given Brexit and Coronabollix.MattFalle said:But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?
After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.
From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.
#confused
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Yep, that’s a cracking analogy.No_Ta_Doctor said:I nearly bought a chimpanzee.
In the end I got an orangutan instead. While it was a bit heavier and more expensive, it was far more forgiving and gentle.
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Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.0
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Oltre looks really nice as well. Shame they didn't use the gorgeous green color from here as the middle layer or start with dark celeste -> green -> black transition.
Still probably my favourite team colorway atm.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20231 -
oh God no. Shimano is bland bland bland50x11 said:
Front end is a bit weird but thats a very smart bike, classic frame shape. Looks much better with the understated Shimano on it than it would any other gs.RichN95. said:Anyway, here's the bike
#bland
That needs SR and nothing else
#wtafwouldyouputshimanoonthat?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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or the 40kg rucksackkingstongraham said:
Those stats won't include the 5kg of water.brundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
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Is that when he’s filling his 40kg camelback.bondurant said:
He's capable of much more when he 'opens the taps'.webboo said:Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.
I'm surprised you do not know this.0 -
Do Bianchi know they are sponsoring Mitchelton rather than Bora-Hansgrohe?1
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that was the one with a dinner suit and an anvil in it wasn't it?david37 said:
or the 40kg rucksackkingstongraham said:
Those stats won't include the 5kg of water.brundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
#he'sanutter.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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RichN95. said:
Anyway, here's the bike
Tawdry looking paint job."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
webboo said:
Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.
Sorry, who’s “pooling about at 14mph”?
I’ve had a fair bit more out of the XR4 as well. I’ve got one effort recorded at 24mph over 50 odd miles. Although I don’t go on average speeds, just Normailzed power usually.
I found it.
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I thought it was a bit similar as well. The Celeste bar tape sealed the deal though.andyp said:Do Bianchi know they are sponsoring Mitchelton rather than Bora-Hansgrohe?
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Seems a high average power - is that the heavy bike?brundonbianchi said:webboo said:Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.
Sorry, who’s “pooling about at 14mph”?
I’ve had a fair bit more out of the XR4 as well. I’ve got one effort recorded at 24mph over 80 miles. Although I don’t go on average speeds, just Normailzed power usually.0 -
I have an equivalent ride (40m, 2h) at 184w but absolutely SFA idea of what it means, buti presume the 80mile/ 24mph chat is probably a lie0
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This fooking threadIt's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
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#youknowwhatyouregettingifyouopenthisthread0
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Rucksack full of spares and towing a snapon tool chest.MattFalle said:
that was the one with a dinner suit and an anvil in it wasn't it?david37 said:
or the 40kg rucksackkingstongraham said:
Those stats won't include the 5kg of water.brundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
#he'sanutter0