Bianchi to be bike suppliers to GreenEDGE from next year

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  • gsk82 said:

    The xr4 isn't even Bianchi's best bike.

    That is true, but it’s their best currently manufactured bike.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2020
    But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?

    After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.

    From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.

    #confused
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,276
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,096
    I nearly bought a chimpanzee.
    In the end I got an orangutan instead. While it was a bit heavier and more expensive, it was far more forgiving and gentle.
    Warning No formatter is installed for the format
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 2,806
    MattFalle said:

    But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?

    After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.

    From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.

    #confused

    But the Bianchi comes in a pretty colour.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2020
    Jezyboy said:

    MattFalle said:

    But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?

    After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.

    From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.

    #confused

    But the Bianchi comes in a pretty colour.
    Anything can come in any color. its just color. a color from the factory isn't worth buying a bike that isn't as good - in many planes - as another.

    #color
    #TDKBOMB
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,276
    MattFalle said:

    Jezyboy said:

    MattFalle said:

    But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?

    After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.

    From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.

    #confused

    But the Bianchi comes in a pretty colour.
    Anything can come in any color. its just color. a color from the factory isn't worth buying a bike that isn't as good - in many planes - as another.

    #color
    #TDKBOMB
    When something is coming I have little regard to the colour.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,129
    Anyway, here's the bike


    Twitter: @RichN95
  • gethinceri
    gethinceri Posts: 1,494
    I prefer it with rim brakes
  • MattFalle said:

    But as you've said above it's considerably heavier than the bikes that cost the same but are better and lighter and used at a higher level and stiffer although they cost the same and surely you need to know what you are doing when you are descending otherwise you'll just crash and burn?

    After all, you are in control of it (I presume it hasn't got auto pilot, however could that account for the weight penalty?) so although it seems to flatter (or should that be assists) your limited descending abilities think how quick someone who knew what they were doing would go on, say, an F12 that costs the same but is used at a much higher level.

    From what you are saying it seems a bit soft and heavy and forgiving, so more Jo Brand than TDKBOMB. Like a couch. Or a marshmallow.

    #confused

    It is definitely an enigma. The design and materials used in the CV framed XR4 are so good, that the ‘weight penalty’ is not really a penalty. It’s stiff enough to allow all the power to transfer to moving it forward ( particularly out of the saddle ) and yet it’s not harsh to ride ( like the F12 ). On a long effort, I certainly found I felt far fresher on the Bianchi, than the F12, although admittedly there wasn’t as much in it between the F10 and the XR4. The version of the XR4 used by J.V. was the older rim braked design, the disc braked frame is different enough to warrant a new designation, but that’s not Bianchi’s way. I did have a Super six on loan for a couple of months, and it has the compliance of the Bianchi, but it’s as harsh as the F12. The fact that Bianchi haven’t seen fit to change anything on an ‘old frame design’ speaks volumes. I’m still waiting for my new specialissima, but the notoriously slow supply chain is practically at a standstill at the moment. I can’t see me getting it much before the middle of next year, given Brexit and Coronabollix.

  • RichN95. said:

    Anyway, here's the bike


    Ohhh Lordy.

  • I nearly bought a chimpanzee.
    In the end I got an orangutan instead. While it was a bit heavier and more expensive, it was far more forgiving and gentle.

    Yep, that’s a cracking analogy.

  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,322
    RichN95. said:

    Anyway, here's the bike



    Yup, looks like a bike...

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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.
  • 50x11
    50x11 Posts: 408
    RichN95. said:

    Anyway, here's the bike


    Front end is a bit weird but thats a very smart bike, classic frame shape. Looks much better with the understated Shimano on it than it would any other gs.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,296

    Oltre looks really nice as well. Shame they didn't use the gorgeous green color from here as the middle layer or start with dark celeste -> green -> black transition.

    Still probably my favourite team colorway atm.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • webboo said:

    Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.

    He's capable of much more when he 'opens the taps'.

    I'm surprised you do not know this.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    50x11 said:

    RichN95. said:

    Anyway, here's the bike


    Front end is a bit weird but thats a very smart bike, classic frame shape. Looks much better with the understated Shimano on it than it would any other gs.
    oh God no. Shimano is bland bland bland

    #bland

    That needs SR and nothing else

    #wtafwouldyouputshimanoonthat?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313

    david37 said:

    Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.

    You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say.

    Those stats won't include the 5kg of water.
    or the 40kg rucksack
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    bondurant said:

    webboo said:

    Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.

    He's capable of much more when he 'opens the taps'.

    I'm surprised you do not know this.
    Is that when he’s filling his 40kg camelback.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,048
    Do Bianchi know they are sponsoring Mitchelton rather than Bora-Hansgrohe?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    david37 said:

    david37 said:

    Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.

    You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say.

    Those stats won't include the 5kg of water.
    or the 40kg rucksack
    that was the one with a dinner suit and an anvil in it wasn't it?

    #he'sanutter
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,642
    edited December 2020
    RichN95. said:

    Anyway, here's the bike



    Tawdry looking paint job.
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  • brundonbianchi
    brundonbianchi Posts: 689
    edited December 2020
    webboo said:

    Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.


    Sorry, who’s “pooling about at 14mph”?
    I’ve had a fair bit more out of the XR4 as well. I’ve got one effort recorded at 24mph over 50 odd miles. Although I don’t go on average speeds, just Normailzed power usually.

    I found it.


  • andyp said:

    Do Bianchi know they are sponsoring Mitchelton rather than Bora-Hansgrohe?

    I thought it was a bit similar as well. The Celeste bar tape sealed the deal though.
  • webboo said:

    Any body would think you were doing races or race type efforts not pooling about at 14mph or can’t you remember how fast you ride with the bangs on the head and all that.


    Sorry, who’s “pooling about at 14mph”?
    I’ve had a fair bit more out of the XR4 as well. I’ve got one effort recorded at 24mph over 80 miles. Although I don’t go on average speeds, just Normailzed power usually.


    Seems a high average power - is that the heavy bike?
  • I have an equivalent ride (40m, 2h) at 184w but absolutely SFA idea of what it means, buti presume the 80mile/ 24mph chat is probably a lie
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    This fooking thread
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • #youknowwhatyouregettingifyouopenthisthread
  • MattFalle said:

    david37 said:

    david37 said:

    Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.

    You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say.

    Those stats won't include the 5kg of water.
    or the 40kg rucksack
    that was the one with a dinner suit and an anvil in it wasn't it?

    #he'sanutter
    Rucksack full of spares and towing a snapon tool chest.