Bianchi to be bike suppliers to GreenEDGE from next year
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As I've already mentioned, it's a one-way street. With two lanes going in the same direction, there is no wrong side!johnboy183 said:Photo is supposedly taken in Andorra hence “wrong side” of road
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Dorset_Boy said:
Been there...Charlie_Croker said:
How can you tell from the photo that it's a one way street? Or do you know the exact location?Dorset_Boy said:Both the bus and Yatesy are on the wrong side of the road.
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Are you sure?Charlie_Croker said:
As I've already mentioned, it's a one-way street. With two lanes going in the same direction, there is no wrong side!johnboy183 said:Photo is supposedly taken in Andorra hence “wrong side” of road
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Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.1
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You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say. I’ve ridden a few of the ‘featherlight’ super bikes, found in the peloton and found their relative stiffness, and resultant harsh ride, really screw the dynamics up. For example, I had a Pinarello Dogma F10 on loan a while back, and it was the measure ( nearly ) of the XR4. I was then loaned an F12, and although the F12 is lighter, it’s so much stiffer, it’s hard to keep all the power moving it forward, it’s relatively jittery, which you don’t want in fast downhill corners. Just because a bike is lighter ( on paper) does not necessarily equate to it being faster. Every up hill, has a downhill ( except summit finishes obvs.) and anything that XR4 gives away going up, it more than compensates for going down.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
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Those stats won't include the 5kg of water.brundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
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Given his average speed on rides is about 14mph and generally not very hilly. I wonder where all this testing takes place.0
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Embarassingbrundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say. I’ve ridden a few of the ‘featherlight’ super bikes, found in the peloton and found their relative stiffness, and resultant harsh ride, really screw the dynamics up. For example, I had a Pinarello Dogma F10 on loan a while back, and it was the measure ( nearly ) of the XR4. I was then loaned an F12, and although the F12 is lighter, it’s so much stiffer, it’s hard to keep all the power moving it forward, it’s relatively jittery, which you don’t want in fast downhill corners. Just because a bike is lighter ( on paper) does not necessarily equate to it being faster. Every up hill, has a downhill ( except summit finishes obvs.) and anything that XR4 gives away going up, it more than compensates for going down.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
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The xr4 isn't even Bianchi's best bike."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0
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So basically its heavy and unless you are a demon descender you're stuffed going uphill and downhill?brundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say. I’ve ridden a few of the ‘featherlight’ super bikes, found in the peloton and found their relative stiffness, and resultant harsh ride, really screw the dynamics up. For example, I had a Pinarello Dogma F10 on loan a while back, and it was the measure ( nearly ) of the XR4. I was then loaned an F12, and although the F12 is lighter, it’s so much stiffer, it’s hard to keep all the power moving it forward, it’s relatively jittery, which you don’t want in fast downhill corners. Just because a bike is lighter ( on paper) does not necessarily equate to it being faster. Every up hill, has a downhill ( except summit finishes obvs.) and anything that XR4 gives away going up, it more than compensates for going down.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Aero trumps weight going uphill where the difference is marginal0
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Is that with deep rims or shallow?.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Sorry that's what I mean. Deep rims trump an extra few grams.
I can't remember the exact number of grams but I think it was quite a lot.0 -
Aaaah - got ya, see.shirley_basso said:Sorry that's what I mean. Deep rims trump an extra few grams.
I can't remember the exact number of grams but I think it was quite a lot.
Wasn't sure if you meant trad frame shapes vs aero frame shapes. Grazie.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Absolutely bizarre. We get it you bought a bike and have some disposable income. You've ridden other bikes, but you've rigorously tested them all and the one you dropped money on is the best. Better than all the other ones you could have spent all your disposable income on.brundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say. I’ve ridden a few of the ‘featherlight’ super bikes, found in the peloton and found their relative stiffness, and resultant harsh ride, really screw the dynamics up. For example, I had a Pinarello Dogma F10 on loan a while back, and it was the measure ( nearly ) of the XR4. I was then loaned an F12, and although the F12 is lighter, it’s so much stiffer, it’s hard to keep all the power moving it forward, it’s relatively jittery, which you don’t want in fast downhill corners. Just because a bike is lighter ( on paper) does not necessarily equate to it being faster. Every up hill, has a downhill ( except summit finishes obvs.) and anything that XR4 gives away going up, it more than compensates for going down.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
Once again if weight isn't an issue, why then did the pros (who know something about bikes) need to get them to roll back and make them special lightweight bike with no paint and rim bikes.
It's almost like you have no idea what you're talking about.0 -
Almost?0
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Is it possible to mute a thread?It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.1
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Yes, don't click on itsalsiccia1 said:Is it possible to mute a thread?
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If we all agree not to post here, that should do it.0
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but where's the fun in that?.
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Well, if we stopped posting, it would just drop away, wouldn't it?0
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It's like a light bulb to a moth though. If there's more posts I *have* to look...flasher said:It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.1 -
You made me look. Dammit!The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Agree, but its like a scab isn't it? You know it's going to be painful each time you pick it but you just can't stop......kingstongraham said:Well, if we stopped posting, it would just drop away, wouldn't it?
All we can do is splosh the TCP of rationality and humour onto the seeping wound to ease it along.
Neglect is not an option..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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Could be, the saddle looks a bit low.0
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The irony detector shop is doing a roaring trade today. You owe me a new one, mine just exploded.50x11 said:brundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say. I’ve ridden a few of the ‘featherlight’ super bikes, found in the peloton and found their relative stiffness, and resultant harsh ride, really screw the dynamics up. For example, I had a Pinarello Dogma F10 on loan a while back, and it was the measure ( nearly ) of the XR4. I was then loaned an F12, and although the F12 is lighter, it’s so much stiffer, it’s hard to keep all the power moving it forward, it’s relatively jittery, which you don’t want in fast downhill corners. Just because a bike is lighter ( on paper) does not necessarily equate to it being faster. Every up hill, has a downhill ( except summit finishes obvs.) and anything that XR4 gives away going up, it more than compensates for going down.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
It's almost like you have no idea what you're talking about.
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It isn’t that heavy, you don’t need to be a demon descender to get the advantage of its superb dynamics, that’s the whole point.MattFalle said:
So basically its heavy and unless you are a demon descender you're stuffed going uphill and downhill?brundonbianchi said:
You’ve obviously never ridden one then. It really is extremely agile, despite what the stats on its weight say. I’ve ridden a few of the ‘featherlight’ super bikes, found in the peloton and found their relative stiffness, and resultant harsh ride, really screw the dynamics up. For example, I had a Pinarello Dogma F10 on loan a while back, and it was the measure ( nearly ) of the XR4. I was then loaned an F12, and although the F12 is lighter, it’s so much stiffer, it’s hard to keep all the power moving it forward, it’s relatively jittery, which you don’t want in fast downhill corners. Just because a bike is lighter ( on paper) does not necessarily equate to it being faster. Every up hill, has a downhill ( except summit finishes obvs.) and anything that XR4 gives away going up, it more than compensates for going down.david37 said:Yates behind the bus. Best get used to that with that behomoth of a bike to get over the hills.
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