In the Pink - The Pre Giro Warm Up Thread. News, Views and General Info.

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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    Did Pete Tong announce them on stage?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Makes a change from the interminably 'tasteful' peloton.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    Makes a change from the interminably 'tasteful' peloton.

    If every team started doing it for attention?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Makes a change from the interminably 'tasteful' peloton.

    If every team started doing it for attention?
    Then it wouldn't make a change, would it?
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    Makes a change from the interminably 'tasteful' peloton.

    If every team started doing it for attention?
    Then it wouldn't make a change, would it?
    Surely the idea then would constantly be more different and outlandish. Anyway, they have got what they want by emulating a catwalk.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444

    I’m not sure it’s so anti traditionalist. I get vibes of the old Z jersey from it, and Nick Craig had the duck helmet in the 90’s.
    I don’t like it as it’s so messy, but hey, good PR and well executed.

    The Palace aesthetic is super 90s isn't it, so that makes a lot of sense. I think it's kinda cool. Just if there were a couple less logos on there, which is why I am hoping there might be some slightly more muted Rapha x Palace bits with the release on Monday.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    That and I don't own any team kit due to FPKW concerns
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Ultimately the jersey reminds me of the time Homer Simpson designed a car. Any one element of it may make sense in isolation but together they create a godawful mess.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Makes a change from the interminably 'tasteful' peloton.

    If every team started doing it for attention?
    Then it wouldn't make a change, would it?
    Surely the idea then would constantly be more different and outlandish. Anyway, they have got what they want by emulating a catwalk.
    Meh, fashions go in cycles. Peloton has been largely in a 'tasteful' phase for the past decade and a half, so it makes sense to drift the other way.

  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    Makes a change from the interminably 'tasteful' peloton.

    If every team started doing it for attention?
    Then it wouldn't make a change, would it?
    Surely the idea then would constantly be more different and outlandish. Anyway, they have got what they want by emulating a catwalk.
    Meh, fashions go in cycles. Peloton has been largely in a 'tasteful' phase for the past decade and a half, so it makes sense to drift the other way.

    Actually, come to think of it, things as a bit sh1t at the moment, so I don't know?
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725

    Makes a change from the interminably 'tasteful' peloton.

    If every team started doing it for attention?
    Then it wouldn't make a change, would it?
    Surely the idea then would constantly be more different and outlandish. Anyway, they have got what they want by emulating a catwalk.
    Meh, fashions go in cycles. Peloton has been largely in a 'tasteful' phase for the past decade and a half, so it makes sense to drift the other way.

    'Drift'? That's not a drift the other way, that's a headlong run away from tasteful :D

    Fair play to them though, it's income for them and it's got everyone talking about them. Job done.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    Makes a change from the interminably 'tasteful' peloton.

    If every team started doing it for attention?
    Then it wouldn't make a change, would it?
    Surely the idea then would constantly be more different and outlandish. Anyway, they have got what they want by emulating a catwalk.
    Meh, fashions go in cycles. Peloton has been largely in a 'tasteful' phase for the past decade and a half, so it makes sense to drift the other way.

    'Drift'? That's not a drift the other way, that's a headlong run away from tasteful :D

    Fair play to them though, it's income for them and it's got everyone talking about them. Job done.
    Yep, they have pulled a Banksy.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    m.r.m. said:

    I don't get it. Did I unwittingly steal your line?

    No No, from Vaughters.

    I'll await seeing it 'in action' as it were as that can make a difference I think. Bahrain-Merida being a recent example...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • The Palace aesthetic is super 90s isn't it, so that makes a lot of sense. I think it's kinda cool. Just if there were a couple less logos on there, which is why I am hoping there might be some slightly more muted Rapha x Palace bits with the release on Monday.

    They've entered the realm of the 'boxed for life' sneaker heads with this. I'm predicting a website crash on Monday morning and everything cleaned out. Then it'll either be on eBay or placed in the wardrobe next to the Futura2000 Maharishis.

    Not sure if the RCC members are getting first dibs tomorrow. I've heard they might be...

  • davep1
    davep1 Posts: 837

    Mountain Top Finish

    Thanks Bob!

    I hadn't looked here since yesterday, was a bit surprised to see two complete pages of posts since then...all about jersies! :o

    Anyway, I am hoping to be at the MTF...and also the climb up il muro di Guardiagrele, which should be amazing!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    One of the symptoms of Covid19 is a loss of taste, so should be EF be excluded from the Giro due to showing symptoms.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    edited October 2020
    All teams finally confirmed barring last minute issues.

    http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=Mjk4MDc=

    It looks a very weak field below the obvious suspects. Cycling News have even resorted to including Zakarin in their list of 10 riders to watch for GC. It's that weak. FWIW, I'd rate the favourites:

    ***** Thomas
    ****
    *** Fuglsang, Kruiswijk
    ** Vlasov, Nibali, Yates
    * Lopez

    Astana look to have by far the strongest team but not the strongest rider. If they try and dominate in a Team Sky / J-V style,, that will play into Thomas's hands so they need to attack him. It hopefully should lead to some entertaining racing.

    Edited to include the overlooked Yates.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    DeadCalm said:

    All teams finally confirmed barring last minute issues.

    http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=Mjk4MDc=

    It looks a very weak field below the obvious suspects. Cycling News have even resorted to including Zakarin in their list of 10 riders to watch for GC. It's that weak. FWIW, I'd rate the favourites:

    ***** Thomas
    ****
    *** Fuglsang, Kruiswijk
    ** Vlasov, Nibali
    * Lopez

    Astana look to have by far the strongest team but not the strongest rider. If they try and dominate in a Team Sky / J-V style,, that will play into Thomas's hands so they need to attack him. It hopefully should lead to some entertaining racing.

    No Yates?
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    gsk82 said:

    DeadCalm said:

    All teams finally confirmed barring last minute issues.

    http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=Mjk4MDc=

    It looks a very weak field below the obvious suspects. Cycling News have even resorted to including Zakarin in their list of 10 riders to watch for GC. It's that weak. FWIW, I'd rate the favourites:

    ***** Thomas
    ****
    *** Fuglsang, Kruiswijk
    ** Vlasov, Nibali
    * Lopez

    Astana look to have by far the strongest team but not the strongest rider. If they try and dominate in a Team Sky / J-V style,, that will play into Thomas's hands so they need to attack him. It hopefully should lead to some entertaining racing.

    No Yates?
    Rats. I meant to put him on two stars with Vlasov and Nibali.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    DeadCalm said:

    gsk82 said:

    DeadCalm said:

    All teams finally confirmed barring last minute issues.

    http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=Mjk4MDc=

    It looks a very weak field below the obvious suspects. Cycling News have even resorted to including Zakarin in their list of 10 riders to watch for GC. It's that weak. FWIW, I'd rate the favourites:

    ***** Thomas
    ****
    *** Fuglsang, Kruiswijk
    ** Vlasov, Nibali
    * Lopez

    Astana look to have by far the strongest team but not the strongest rider. If they try and dominate in a Team Sky / J-V style,, that will play into Thomas's hands so they need to attack him. It hopefully should lead to some entertaining racing.

    No Yates?
    Rats. I meant to put him on two stars with Vlasov and Nibali.
    I think he's better than that. His TT isn't *that* bad and he should be better than Thomas on the climbs.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249

    DeadCalm said:

    gsk82 said:

    DeadCalm said:

    All teams finally confirmed barring last minute issues.

    http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=Mjk4MDc=

    It looks a very weak field below the obvious suspects. Cycling News have even resorted to including Zakarin in their list of 10 riders to watch for GC. It's that weak. FWIW, I'd rate the favourites:

    ***** Thomas
    ****
    *** Fuglsang, Kruiswijk
    ** Vlasov, Nibali
    * Lopez

    Astana look to have by far the strongest team but not the strongest rider. If they try and dominate in a Team Sky / J-V style,, that will play into Thomas's hands so they need to attack him. It hopefully should lead to some entertaining racing.

    No Yates?
    Rats. I meant to put him on two stars with Vlasov and Nibali.
    I think he's better than that. His TT isn't *that* bad and he should be better than Thomas on the climbs.
    He lost 22 seconds in 10 km to Thomas at T-A. With 65 km of ITT at the Giro, that equates to almost two and a half minutes. I'm also unconvinced that he will out-climb Thomas over a three week race.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    DeadCalm said:

    DeadCalm said:

    gsk82 said:

    DeadCalm said:

    All teams finally confirmed barring last minute issues.

    http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=Mjk4MDc=

    It looks a very weak field below the obvious suspects. Cycling News have even resorted to including Zakarin in their list of 10 riders to watch for GC. It's that weak. FWIW, I'd rate the favourites:

    ***** Thomas
    ****
    *** Fuglsang, Kruiswijk
    ** Vlasov, Nibali
    * Lopez

    Astana look to have by far the strongest team but not the strongest rider. If they try and dominate in a Team Sky / J-V style,, that will play into Thomas's hands so they need to attack him. It hopefully should lead to some entertaining racing.

    No Yates?
    Rats. I meant to put him on two stars with Vlasov and Nibali.
    I think he's better than that. His TT isn't *that* bad and he should be better than Thomas on the climbs.
    He lost 22 seconds in 10 km to Thomas at T-A. With 65 km of ITT at the Giro, that equates to almost two and a half minutes. I'm also unconvinced that he will out-climb Thomas over a three week race.
    That 10KM was pan flat out and back, plus Thomas was all in to try and overhaul Yates, whereas Yates could presumably ride 'hard but controlled' to take the GC.
    SY did have a shocker on the TT in last Giro but he's also ridden pretty well in some other, more rolling ones.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632

    Not really sure how a middle class cycling attire company and a skateboarding company match up but what do I know.

    They’re far from the brand they were a decade ago. They move on, break new ground, adapt. Motram isn’t daft, and Rapha in the Far East and the US is a different beast. I have no doubt this stuff will be sold out within hours of going on sale on Monday.

    As I said before, today everyone is talking about Rapha, EF and over where the cool folk live...Palace. They’ve nailed it.

    I might actually buy some of it if it's a bit more muted than the team jersey.

    According to that BR article "Palace Skateboards teams up with Rapha and Cannondale for 2020’s most millennial collab" - I am pretty millenial...
    I’d definitely buy the Colombian National jersey. It looks great!

    That's the Ecuador one - Jonathan Caicedo getting Van Avermaet style use out of the jersey - he's been National Champ since June 2019.....

    Higuita is Colombian champ so will presumably have something similar.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632

    Not really sure how a middle class cycling attire company and a skateboarding company match up but what do I know.

    They’re far from the brand they were a decade ago. They move on, break new ground, adapt. Motram isn’t daft, and Rapha in the Far East and the US is a different beast. I have no doubt this stuff will be sold out within hours of going on sale on Monday.

    As I said before, today everyone is talking about Rapha, EF and over where the cool folk live...Palace. They’ve nailed it.

    I might actually buy some of it if it's a bit more muted than the team jersey.

    According to that BR article "Palace Skateboards teams up with Rapha and Cannondale for 2020’s most millennial collab" - I am pretty millenial...
    I’d definitely buy the Colombian National jersey. It looks great!

    That's the Ecuador one - Jonathan Caicedo getting Van Avermaet style use out of the jersey - he's been National Champ since June 2019.....

    Higuita is Colombian champ so will presumably have something similar.
    Edit - Caicedo is also the TT champ so presume he'll be all in for this design in full skinsuit plus Duck hat tomorrow
  • DeadCalm said:

    DeadCalm said:

    gsk82 said:

    DeadCalm said:

    All teams finally confirmed barring last minute issues.

    http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=Mjk4MDc=

    It looks a very weak field below the obvious suspects. Cycling News have even resorted to including Zakarin in their list of 10 riders to watch for GC. It's that weak. FWIW, I'd rate the favourites:

    ***** Thomas
    ****
    *** Fuglsang, Kruiswijk
    ** Vlasov, Nibali
    * Lopez

    Astana look to have by far the strongest team but not the strongest rider. If they try and dominate in a Team Sky / J-V style,, that will play into Thomas's hands so they need to attack him. It hopefully should lead to some entertaining racing.

    No Yates?
    Rats. I meant to put him on two stars with Vlasov and Nibali.
    I think he's better than that. His TT isn't *that* bad and he should be better than Thomas on the climbs.
    He lost 22 seconds in 10 km to Thomas at T-A. With 65 km of ITT at the Giro, that equates to almost two and a half minutes. I'm also unconvinced that he will out-climb Thomas over a three week race.
    That 10KM was pan flat out and back, plus Thomas was all in to try and overhaul Yates, whereas Yates could presumably ride 'hard but controlled' to take the GC.
    SY did have a shocker on the TT in last Giro but he's also ridden pretty well in some other, more rolling ones.
    He doesn't sound too confident.

    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/giro-ditalia/simon-yates-the-giro-ditalia-prologue-is-the-worst-time-trial-i-could-ever-imagine-471346
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262



    Edit - Caicedo is also the TT champ so presume he'll be all in for this design in full skinsuit plus Duck hat tomorrow

    The Giro needs to call an Ad Hoc team time trial just so we can see a row of eight little ducks waddling along the road
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    edited October 2020
    RichN95. said:

    One of the symptoms of Covid19 is a loss of taste, so should be EF be excluded from the Giro due to showing symptoms.

    If there was to be a post of the Giro thread. This might take some beating.
  • notquite6foot
    notquite6foot Posts: 248
    edited October 2020
    I don't think anyone's mentioned S4C on this thread - they're also doing live coverage every day at 1pm (in Welsh obviously*). Unless you're stuck with Freeview, you don't even have to be in Wales to watch their content.

    G will be the big draw for their audience, but even without him they also covered it last year.

    [* Well, they did for the 2018 Tour IIRC]