Grand Départ 2020 - Stage 1: Nice - Moyen pays - Nice 156kms *Spoilers*

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  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    Gutted for Degenkolb, anyone know what happened?
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611
    lettingthedaysgoby said:

    Gutted for Degenkolb, anyone know what happened?

    No idea, but a huge shame for him. Always sad when someone is DNF on stage 1.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Pinot. How fragile do we think he is?

    He looked very affected by that crash.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    He makes Princess Tom look like a dour, wet and cold Norwegian...

    He's not gonna win,and it's got nothing to do with rain or crashes.
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    Dorset_Boy said:

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    No idea, but a huge shame for him. Always sad when someone is DNF on stage 1.

    He’s one of my favourite riders, I’m genuinely sad he’s out so soon, would have loved to see him challenging for a stage win somewhere.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    edited August 2020
    Kirby is still annoying. His first incorrect fact was before the Depart Real, when he claimed Menton was between Nice and Monaco, when its the other side of Monaco and last town before Italy.
    Failed to spot Sivakov was down during the crash despite a replay.
    Then after Dumoulin spoke to the rider from Astana he started gesticulating back at him, which wasnt really in a "i accept we were wrong manor" but didnt let that stop him claiming that was the gist of it.

    having said that, ive seen pictures of sport at work with no commentary, and talking over it really isnt an easy job, and thats with no producer shouting down my ear either.

    Hoping we dont get any withdrawals overnight and we get a dry stage tomorrow. Might get an early sprint for green then some decent GC action
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    gweeds said:

    Pinot. How fragile do we think he is?

    He looked very affected by that crash.

    He's more fragile than a piece of Baccarat crystal.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Oh man how great is it having the Tour on?
    _
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    lettingthedaysgoby said:

    Gutted for Degenkolb, anyone know what happened?

    He did finish, but outside the time limit. Doesn't answer your question though.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    dish_dash said:

    Yay! MY MAN!

    Maybe he didn't win KBK but he's got another tour stage and the yellow jersey!

    I think another Tour stage and the yellow jersey trumps KBK, don't you?

  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Translation: Here is the cause of many of the falls today or at least it seems so.

    The advertising Caravan of #TDF2020 Specifically, the soap X-Tra Total threw soap bombs that were left on the Highway.
    With the rain, the track was transformed into a skating rink

    So now rider safety is less of a priority than selling soap

    Twitter: @RichN95
  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    blazing_saddles said:

    gweeds said:

    Pinot. How fragile do we think he is?

    He looked very affected by that crash.

    He's more fragile than a piece of Baccarat crystal.
    He looked more pi$$ed off to me which is a good sign
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611
    specialgueststar said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    gweeds said:

    Pinot. How fragile do we think he is?

    He looked very affected by that crash.

    He's more fragile than a piece of Baccarat crystal.
    He looked more pi$$ed off to me which is a good sign
    But was that pissed off because he knows he's injured, or pissed off just for the crash?
    His positioning should have been much better, like Roglic, Bernal etc.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    RichN95. said:


    So now rider safety is less of a priority than selling soap

    They were able to follow advice and wash their hands afterwards though, so...
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited August 2020
    lettingthedaysgoby said:

    Gutted for Degenkolb, anyone know what happened?

    This suggests a nasty crash.




    Phil Gilbert off to hospital too for checks.
    Bad day in the Lotto office.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited August 2020
    Closer to tears if you ask me.

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  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    He's cracked his knee and shoulder and they are already vulnerable. Worse Gaudu banged his lower back and Mollard got a bad knee impact. Also other injuries in team so that's f.d it up
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    With Degenkolb Twitter suggests that he crashed at the same time as Ewan, then turned himself inside out to pace him back before dropping off. Allegedly now off to hospital for x-rays, so hope he's okay.
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  • specialgueststar
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  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    The team appealed but it was rejected. Seems rather harsh considering the conditions of the day.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    I don't think you can make an exception today or you set a precedent for later in the race
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    lettingthedaysgoby said:

    The team appealed but it was rejected. Seems rather harsh considering the conditions of the day.

    Tour's always been harsh with enforcing the cut off. I remember Ted King being kicked off having missed the cut-off in a TTT, alone with a knacked shoulder and on a road bike, by just 7 seconds. Think there was a bit of a hoo-hah about the official time in that case as well, just to add to it.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Valls taken to hospital too. Think he got caught up in the crash at 3km to go, as he's been given the same time.



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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    DeVlaeminck said:

    I don't think you can make an exception today or you set a precedent for later in the race

    You what?

    It's not as if they haven't done it in the past.
    Heck, Paul Sherwen for one.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    RichN95. said:

    Everyone finished. Sivakov thirteen minutes down with two others.

    Not too bad considering he looked very keen to get in the car after his second fall.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Full (?) list of fallers and injuries here: https://cyclingtips.com/2020/08/the-tour-de-france-ice-rink-who-crashed-and-whos-hurt/

    Quite the list; suggests Valls has a leg injury and is definitely out.
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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    If the mayhem has been caused by the soap then ASO and UCI might be in trouble. A rider go-slow might happen, especially with the general unhappiness of safety at other events this year. Amateur hour needs to stop.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    RichN95. said:

    Translation: Here is the cause of many of the falls today or at least it seems so.

    The advertising Caravan of #TDF2020 Specifically, the soap X-Tra Total threw soap bombs that were left on the Highway.
    With the rain, the track was transformed into a skating rink

    So now rider safety is less of a priority than selling soap

    I thought they weren't having a publicity caravan this year.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    edited August 2020
    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    Translation: Here is the cause of many of the falls today or at least it seems so.

    The advertising Caravan of #TDF2020 Specifically, the soap X-Tra Total threw soap bombs that were left on the Highway.
    With the rain, the track was transformed into a skating rink

    So now rider safety is less of a priority than selling soap

    I thought they weren't having a publicity caravan this year.
    Soapy soapy.

  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    edited August 2020
    "What if 1999's Passage du Gois... but a whole stage?"

    Fortunately not the same impact though, at least in terms of time losses.
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