Ineos Grenadiers
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Ashton Lambie. He's a 'cyclor' for the American team.
As I understand it, the requirement is to have 'cyclors' who could do 500 watts for an hour and weight was not a consideration, which led to them recruiting a lot of ex-rowers.
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Strange that Lambie never did any road at all, pretty rare for a track pursuiter.
HIs partner Christina Birch is a multiple US national champ on the track, as well as a Dr in Bioengineering from MIT and a trainee astronaut with Nasa. Fair to say neither of them have embraced just doing what everybody else does.
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Interesting long read on what the "cyclors" do
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Sounds like a perfect job for someone like Dowsett.
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Dowsett is too skinny. Not enough raw Wattage...
It's one of the aspects of the Americas Cup that makes it a very hard watch for me. That despite my (mediocre to non-existent) talent in sailing I'd be more likely to make it onto the boat as a fat-but-reasonably-powerful-actually cyclist...
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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*coughcoughBradleyWigginscoughcough*
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7-4 win for Ineos against the Italians.
All Blacks next week.
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Surely if a rower can bang out 500w pedalling consistently for an hour then they should go for the hour record as that is raw wattage rather than watts / kg. Sure, the aero element comes into play but it should be possible to train the rower into an aero position. Dowsett only averaged around 350 watts for his record so a rower putting out 500w should smash it (even Ganna was 'only' around 450w I believe).
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How does the energy get from the pedallers to whatever it's being used for? Is it a series of gears and cranks etc?
Also, if they can use batteries for the stupid prongs to go up and down, why don't they just use batteries for the rest of it?
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I saw a bit on the TV the other day and thought it looked very impressive but immensely silly - and that's even before I realised they had a bunch of cyclists pedalling away inside to power it.
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The previous comment was specifically that they wanted people who could push 500w for an hour though. I guess the position in the boat uses muscles differently but ultimately if they can generate 500w for an hour they could smash the hour record with a bit of work on their position.
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As I understand it, they generate all the power, the batteries are basically just big capacitors. So they can generate excess which is stored for when needed, or at peak requirements, everything they generate goes directly to whatever machinery needs powering.
I imagine it's a bit like if you rode a tandem with some guy who was only there to power your electronic shifting
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Exactly that, yeah...
Which...I dunno...just doesn't feel very much like sailing to me...🫤
Compare and contrast the insane teamwork here to get round the leeward mark.
Twiddling a playstation controller just doesn't feel right
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Oh it's completely different. I watched a tiny bit yesterday to try and get an idea of what it was all about. It's all mechanised, all digitally controlled but powered by the watt freaks. But flying in the air at 50 knotts and capable of turning like a London black cab 😱
There will always be actual sailing, with people having to duck under booms etc. This is like F1 compared to....rally driving?
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I reckon it's all e-racing until you get something wrong, and then it's potentially cataclysmic at those speeds. Not sure which of the Italy v GB races it was I saw, but those boats were incredibly close. Imagine tangling those wing things together.
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I watched the second race of the women's event yesterday. Really good wind at one end of the course, almost flat calm at the other which cause huge difficulties rounding the mark and then getting across the finish. Only 3 boats actually crossed the line with the others timed out.
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Part of the reason there's no need for frantic sail handing though is because the boats are now so fast that there's no downwind leg*. They never have to gybe**, either.
Which when you think about it is incredible.
* For the lubberly, just like cycling, sailing forwards produces an apparent wind. Even if there's a 20kt tailwind in the forecast, at 40kt you feel it as 20kt in your face
** Turning the arse of the boat though the wind. Do it by accident and you can kill someone. The forces involved are phenomenal even on quite small boats.
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It's still a tack for them as the apparent wind remains off the bow
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Even understanding apparent wind, that blows my mind tbh
Post bacon sarnie Edit: So are we saying that although the saild move like a tack becasue of the APPARENT wind they are still "gybing" becasue the back of the back goes through the TRUE wind direction?
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Would any other team match Pidcock's current contract ? I wonder if deselecting him for Lombardy is Ineos' way of making him leave as he's got 3 years left hasn't he ?
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Doesn't he sometimes ride with the red bull hat on? They might pay over the odds for him.
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