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  • Net zero is going to happen, and much quicker than most people expect.

    I think the last 4 months have shown it won't. And no-one has any spare money to pay for it now. Additionally, notice how much more plastic we are using to 6 months ago?

    Unless you are saying you know of technological solutions that will deliver it?
    Gas prices are crazily, and unsustainably low at the moment, but assuming that is temporary and prices go back to normal, wind and solar are probably the cheapest way to generate electricity. Yes storage needs some work.

    Otherwise, hydrogen is coming, and coming quickly.

    It won't happen if it has a negative economic effect on us.

    Additionally, China are undoing any carbon savings the west are making with their over reliance on coal fire power stations and they don't seem to be slowing the building of them.
  • shortfallshortfall Posts: 2,946
    essexian said:

    The best bands ever all came from the South East of England.

    Unpopular and untrue.
  • amrushtonamrushton Posts: 810
    Those arty coffees Mocha Chococcino and other made up ones are really good value.
    Priti Patel seems very fair minded to foreign workers and deeply cares.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 52,537 Lives Here
    American cuisine is actually really good when it comes to breakfast.
  • ProssPross Posts: 25,314

    American cuisine is actually really good when it comes to breakfast.

    Pancakes and waffles are deserts not breakfast food. I do like their bacon though.
  • ProssPross Posts: 25,314
    shortfall said:

    essexian said:

    The best bands ever all came from the South East of England.

    Unpopular and untrue.
    The Stones, The Kinks, Small Faces, East 17 - all the greats
  • Jeremy.89Jeremy.89 Posts: 457

    American cuisine is actually really good when it comes to breakfast.

    I'd go as far as taking off the last part of the sentence...

    But maybe saying can be, rather than is.

  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 13,764

    Theresa May was a better PM than given credit for.

    If you can think of anything positive, I'll agree with this opinion.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 14,115
    edited July 2020
    Pross said:

    shortfall said:

    essexian said:

    The best bands ever all came from the South East of England.

    Unpopular and untrue.
    The Stones, The Kinks, Small Faces, East 17 - all the greats
    You got off to a good start there too, then ran out and panicked.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 11,833

    Net zero is going to happen, and much quicker than most people expect.

    I think the last 4 months have shown it won't. And no-one has any spare money to pay for it now. Additionally, notice how much more plastic we are using to 6 months ago?

    Unless you are saying you know of technological solutions that will deliver it?
    Gas prices are crazily, and unsustainably low at the moment, but assuming that is temporary and prices go back to normal, wind and solar are probably the cheapest way to generate electricity. Yes storage needs some work.

    Otherwise, hydrogen is coming, and coming quickly.

    It won't happen if it has a negative economic effect on us.

    Additionally, China are undoing any carbon savings the west are making with their over reliance on coal fire power stations and they don't seem to be slowing the building of them.
    China is a world leader in terms of volume of renewables.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 14,115
    Is it irony that China uses coal fired power stations to build renewables?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • ProssPross Posts: 25,314
    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    shortfall said:

    essexian said:

    The best bands ever all came from the South East of England.

    Unpopular and untrue.
    The Stones, The Kinks, Small Faces, East 17 - all the greats
    You got off to a good start there too, then ran out and panicked.
    I took my inspiration from that Blackadder sketch about the great universities so in that vein - you're right, the Small Faces were rubbish.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 15,895

    Theresa May was a better PM than given credit for.

    I think you might need to show your workings for that.
    In her premiership she faced two major issues, Brexit and the Salisbury poisonings.

    With regard to Brexit she became the first leader of a country to trigger Article 50 and under that restrictive timescale negotiate a withdrawal agreement. Her deal combined the seemingly impossible demands of leaving the EU with the UK intact, ending free movement and allowing UK trade with the EU to continue unhindered.

    This deal had the support of all but 2 members of the 'current' cabinet and became the basis of the final deal

    With regard to the Salisbury poisoning she became one of the few world leaders to face down Russia, marshalling 28 countries (including the EU in the midst of the Brexit negotiations) in taking retaliatory diplomatic action in expelling Russian operatives.







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  • slowmartslowmart Posts: 4,035
    I get a hard on just thinking about Diane Abbott
    “Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”

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  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 14,115
    slowmart said:

    I get a hard on just thinking about Diane Abbott

    Everybody deserves a little lovin’.
    Glad you’re happy to step up to the plate.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 14,723
    slowmart said:

    I get a hard on just thinking about Diane Abbott

    Rick will be keen to recruit you, as you would certainly add diversity. Can't imagine he has one like you in his collection. :)
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 7,488
    slowmart said:

    I get a hard on just thinking about Diane Abbott

    The Ban Stick was a good thing.
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 43,891
    Slowmart may have won this thread.
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  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 2,829
    slowmart said:

    I get a hard on just thinking about Diane Abbott

    Is that you Jeremy?
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 43,891
    mrb123 said:

    slowmart said:

    I get a hard on just thinking about Diane Abbott

    Is that you Jeremy?
    :D

    Well he is a Labour supporter...
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  • shortfallshortfall Posts: 2,946
    slowmart said:

    I get a hard on just thinking about Diane Abbott

    To be fair I only try and conjour up her image in my minds eye if things are "happening a little too quickly" shall we say. The problem then of course is keeping things going.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 11,833

    Theresa May was a better PM than given credit for.

    I think you might need to show your workings for that.
    In her premiership she faced two major issues, Brexit and the Salisbury poisonings.

    With regard to Brexit she became the first leader of a country to trigger Article 50 and under that restrictive timescale negotiate a withdrawal agreement. Her deal combined the seemingly impossible demands of leaving the EU with the UK intact, ending free movement and allowing UK trade with the EU to continue unhindered.

    This deal had the support of all but 2 members of the 'current' cabinet and became the basis of the final deal

    With regard to the Salisbury poisoning she became one of the few world leaders to face down Russia, marshalling 28 countries (including the EU in the midst of the Brexit negotiations) in taking retaliatory diplomatic action in expelling Russian operatives.







    Thanks for showing your workings. Having duly considered it, I think this remains the correct thread for it.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 13,764

    Theresa May was a better PM than given credit for.

    I think you might need to show your workings for that.
    In her premiership she faced two major issues, Brexit and the Salisbury poisonings.

    With regard to Brexit she became the first leader of a country to trigger Article 50 and under that restrictive timescale negotiate a withdrawal agreement. Her deal combined the seemingly impossible demands of leaving the EU with the UK intact, ending free movement and allowing UK trade with the EU to continue unhindered.

    This deal had the support of all but 2 members of the 'current' cabinet and became the basis of the final deal

    With regard to the Salisbury poisoning she became one of the few world leaders to face down Russia, marshalling 28 countries (including the EU in the midst of the Brexit negotiations) in taking retaliatory diplomatic action in expelling Russian operatives.







    Thanks for showing your workings. Having duly considered it, I think this remains the correct thread for it.
    I, however, having previously given her no credit at all, agree with the sentiment that there is some credit due for the Salisbury stuff.

    Also, it now appears that she could have been worse.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 13,764
    It doesn't really matter what bloody bedside lamps we have.

  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 43,891
    shortfall said:

    slowmart said:

    I get a hard on just thinking about Diane Abbott

    To be fair I only try and conjour up her image in my minds eye if things are "happening a little too quickly" shall we say. The problem then of course is keeping things going.
    :D

    Does that image include the non-matching shoes?


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  • focuszing723focuszing723 Posts: 1,536
    edited July 2020

    Brian Cox is a liar, astronomy and associated theoretical science isn't "cool" or "mind blowing" it's boring as ****. I'm willing to concede it *may* serve some purpose - god knows what - but don't try and make it entertainment .



    July 2020 offers you all 5 bright planets. Venus is that very bright object lighting the east before sunrise. After mid-July, find Mercury below Venus. Jupiter and Saturn are the planets to watch in July 2020. They are close together on the sky’s dome, and both reach opposition this month. Thus they’re at their best, up nearly all night, all month. Mars is looking very red now, steadily brightening, out between midnight and dawn.

    https://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/visible-planets-tonight-mars-jupite'r-venus-saturn-mercury

    Look up to the sky's and feast your eyes on the wonder of the universe.
  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 14,723
    All fascinating. Or it would be if it wasn't for the fact that when I look up to the sky, all I get is a wet face, this fine July.
  • focuszing723focuszing723 Posts: 1,536
    Crikey, you've only got to wait a couple of days for a spell of good weather.
  • nickicenickice Posts: 2,439
    I'm from Scotland but I wanted England to win the World Cup and always support them (after Scotland).

    Perhaps a trivial thing that annoys me but those idiots at the border actually made me ashamed. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-border-protest-absolute-disgrace-22304552

    Actually, I don't understand how the SNP can claim their kind of nationalism is inclusive. Looks like every other kind of nationalism to me.
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 5,371
    edited July 2020
    nickice said:

    I'm from Scotland but I wanted England to win the World Cup and always support them (after Scotland).

    Perhaps a trivial thing that annoys me but those idiots at the border actually made me ashamed. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-border-protest-absolute-disgrace-22304552

    Actually, I don't understand how the SNP can claim their kind of nationalism is inclusive. Looks like every other kind of nationalism to me.

    I couldn't have put it better myself. I'm English, living in Scotland, and I can assure you it is not inclusive unless you are Scottish. There is so much inferred anti-English bias in what the SNP puts out on a relentless daily basis that I will not stay in Scotland when I retire. I don't, as a person who identifies as being British, then English, feel welcome here.

    It also hasn't escaped my notice that Scotland is one of the most shockingly monochrome countries on earth. I don't know why that is, but I can't imagine that the "them and us" rhetoric which underlines all of Scottish politics is helping, because the "us" all look and sound the same, as far as I can tell.
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