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No you really did miss the point,.because you assume I disagree or don't understand the problem.ugo.santalucia said:
No, I didn't... you think that where there is demand, supply will follow and I think there are areas where the regulator needs to intervene... just like the sale of weapons, the sale of flights needs to be regulated for the good of mankind.First.Aspect said:
You have absolutely perfectly missed the point.ugo.santalucia said:
You talk like Charlton Heston... so one could say that for as long as there are weapons around people will buy them and use them enthusiastically.First.Aspect said:
Because lets face it, fannying around the edges is pointless. As long as there are planes, people will fly. As long as oil/gas/coal is cheaper, people will burn it.
It's down to the regulators to realise that the aviation sector cannot be made environmentally sustainable for the foreseeable future and therefore needs to be limited...
Then if someone comes up with an electric plane that can be charged with solar cells, that's a different story, but that technology is not even in the pipeline.
Of course if you think a few thousand jobs and people's freedom to go get a skin cancer in Andalucia are more important than tackling climate change, then we are always going to collide, academic or not...
The bigger picture...
The various carbon offsetting schemes which have been around for over a decade have done an iota to help with climate change, so it is time for more drastic action.
It's not just air travel that needs to be curbed... beef and lamb production too. Prices will go up, inevitable, people will switch to alternatives
The point is that there is no sense campaigning for something that will never happen.
To effect any change you need to be part of a conversation with most of the world, not the richest corner of it.
Banning aeroplanes and raising taxes is very sweet though.0 -
Why would it not happen?First.Aspect said:
No you really did miss the point,.because you assume I disagree or don't understand the problem.ugo.santalucia said:
No, I didn't... you think that where there is demand, supply will follow and I think there are areas where the regulator needs to intervene... just like the sale of weapons, the sale of flights needs to be regulated for the good of mankind.First.Aspect said:
You have absolutely perfectly missed the point.ugo.santalucia said:
You talk like Charlton Heston... so one could say that for as long as there are weapons around people will buy them and use them enthusiastically.First.Aspect said:
Because lets face it, fannying around the edges is pointless. As long as there are planes, people will fly. As long as oil/gas/coal is cheaper, people will burn it.
It's down to the regulators to realise that the aviation sector cannot be made environmentally sustainable for the foreseeable future and therefore needs to be limited...
Then if someone comes up with an electric plane that can be charged with solar cells, that's a different story, but that technology is not even in the pipeline.
Of course if you think a few thousand jobs and people's freedom to go get a skin cancer in Andalucia are more important than tackling climate change, then we are always going to collide, academic or not...
The bigger picture...
The various carbon offsetting schemes which have been around for over a decade have done an iota to help with climate change, so it is time for more drastic action.
It's not just air travel that needs to be curbed... beef and lamb production too. Prices will go up, inevitable, people will switch to alternatives
The point is that there is no sense campaigning for something that will never happen.
To effect any change you need to be part of a conversation with most of the world, not the richest corner of it.
Banning aeroplanes and raising taxes is very sweet though.
If I told you 12 months ago that you'd be asked to stay at home for 8 weeks or so because there is a new virus with a mortality rate of less than 1%, you'd think it would never happen... the Government wouldn't have the authority... it would be impossible to enforce, people would ignore it and so on...
You just need the tide to shift enough so that more people care about the environment than those who care about their holidays abroad... I don't think we are that far off the tipping point... maybe 5 years away...
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Because about 5 out of the 6 or so billion people on earth will say, well you lot have been doing it for ages, why can't we. Bu66er off. Or words to that effect.ugo.santalucia said:
Why would it not happen?First.Aspect said:
No you really did miss the point,.because you assume I disagree or don't understand the problem.ugo.santalucia said:
No, I didn't... you think that where there is demand, supply will follow and I think there are areas where the regulator needs to intervene... just like the sale of weapons, the sale of flights needs to be regulated for the good of mankind.First.Aspect said:
You have absolutely perfectly missed the point.ugo.santalucia said:
You talk like Charlton Heston... so one could say that for as long as there are weapons around people will buy them and use them enthusiastically.First.Aspect said:
Because lets face it, fannying around the edges is pointless. As long as there are planes, people will fly. As long as oil/gas/coal is cheaper, people will burn it.
It's down to the regulators to realise that the aviation sector cannot be made environmentally sustainable for the foreseeable future and therefore needs to be limited...
Then if someone comes up with an electric plane that can be charged with solar cells, that's a different story, but that technology is not even in the pipeline.
Of course if you think a few thousand jobs and people's freedom to go get a skin cancer in Andalucia are more important than tackling climate change, then we are always going to collide, academic or not...
The bigger picture...
The various carbon offsetting schemes which have been around for over a decade have done an iota to help with climate change, so it is time for more drastic action.
It's not just air travel that needs to be curbed... beef and lamb production too. Prices will go up, inevitable, people will switch to alternatives
The point is that there is no sense campaigning for something that will never happen.
To effect any change you need to be part of a conversation with most of the world, not the richest corner of it.
Banning aeroplanes and raising taxes is very sweet though.
If I told you 12 months ago that you'd be asked to stay at home for 8 weeks or so because there is a new virus with a mortality rate of less than 1%, you'd think it would never happen... the Government wouldn't have the authority... it would be impossible to enforce, people would ignore it and so on...
You just need the tide to shift enough so that more people care about the environment than those who care about their holidays abroad... I don't think we are that far off the tipping point... maybe 5 years away...
Not sure I follow the link to covid I'm afraid.0 -
That's not the flaw with net zero. The challenge with net zero is imported carbon not being counted, but this is where a carbon border tax needs to come in.ugo.santalucia said:
Net zero is a flawed concept... basically you are working on the assumption that you are producing a ton of CO2 now, but you are planting X trees which over the course of 20 years will mop up the CO2 I produced in a day... or paying for some carbon offsetting schemes, which most likely invest in off shore equity firms, which allegedly invest in renewables or reforestation... it's all nonsense.TheBigBean said:
It might be in the form of paying £5 when flying, but it is fairly fundamental to achieving net zero.pblakeney said:Carbon offset is a con to ease the consciences of the users.
Not sure if that is popular or unpopular?
If you want to cut CO2, you need to cut CO2... end of
The UK has made significant progress even if you cannot see it.0 -
You are wrong.parryman said:"pigs in blankets" (sausage wrapped in bacon) are overrated and not actually that nice.
Bacon in general isn't that good.
(I like the odd rasher, and a bacon sandwich after a night on the sauce can be a magical experience, but it doesn't improve everything0 -
Not just wrong, Blasphemy!john80 said:
You are wrong.parryman said:"pigs in blankets" (sausage wrapped in bacon) are overrated and not actually that nice.
Bacon in general isn't that good.
(I like the odd rasher, and a bacon sandwich after a night on the sauce can be a magical experience, but it doesn't improve everything"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
But the weather's so hot at the moment 🙃TheBigBean said:
That's not the flaw with net zero. The challenge with net zero is imported carbon not being counted, but this is where a carbon border tax needs to come in.ugo.santalucia said:
Net zero is a flawed concept... basically you are working on the assumption that you are producing a ton of CO2 now, but you are planting X trees which over the course of 20 years will mop up the CO2 I produced in a day... or paying for some carbon offsetting schemes, which most likely invest in off shore equity firms, which allegedly invest in renewables or reforestation... it's all nonsense.TheBigBean said:
It might be in the form of paying £5 when flying, but it is fairly fundamental to achieving net zero.pblakeney said:Carbon offset is a con to ease the consciences of the users.
Not sure if that is popular or unpopular?
If you want to cut CO2, you need to cut CO2... end of
The UK has made significant progress even if you cannot see it.0 -
He's right on 'pigs in blankets' thoughjohn80 said:
You are wrong.parryman said:"pigs in blankets" (sausage wrapped in bacon) are overrated and not actually that nice.
Bacon in general isn't that good.
(I like the odd rasher, and a bacon sandwich after a night on the sauce can be a magical experience, but it doesn't improve everything0 -
Not sure I am.john80 said:
You are wrong.parryman said:"pigs in blankets" (sausage wrapped in bacon) are overrated and not actually that nice.
Bacon in general isn't that good.
(I like the odd rasher, and a bacon sandwich after a night on the sauce can be a magical experience, but it doesn't improve everything
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It is like you are trying to ruin Christmas dinner for scots.parryman said:
Not sure I am.john80 said:
You are wrong.parryman said:"pigs in blankets" (sausage wrapped in bacon) are overrated and not actually that nice.
Bacon in general isn't that good.
(I like the odd rasher, and a bacon sandwich after a night on the sauce can be a magical experience, but it doesn't improve everything0 -
Ha! I wouldn't want to upset a whole country!john80 said:
It is like you are trying to ruin Christmas dinner for scots.parryman said:
Not sure I am.john80 said:
You are wrong.parryman said:"pigs in blankets" (sausage wrapped in bacon) are overrated and not actually that nice.
Bacon in general isn't that good.
(I like the odd rasher, and a bacon sandwich after a night on the sauce can be a magical experience, but it doesn't improve everything
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I agree the all idea of wrapping things in bacon is a bit odd... it's even more odd when they use Parma ham instead, which is a delicacy priced at 80 quid per kg or more, using it as a wrapper to avoid stuff drying out is a bit like lighting cigars with banknotes...
I do like bacon... needs to be cured properly and not give out white stuff when you fry it.left the forum March 20230 -
The white stuff is the injected brine coming back out on cooking, the mark of low quality product.0
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My unpopular opinion on bacon is that the Americans do it better than us. I love it really thin and crispy.1
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Agreeorraloon said:The white stuff is the injected brine coming back out on cooking, the mark of low quality product.
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It isrick_chasey said:Not sure if it’s unpopular but streaky is superior to back bacon.
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I have reported this comment...Pross said:My unpopular opinion on bacon is that the Americans do it better than us. I love it really thin and crispy.
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If I was king for a day I’d ban all non-full fat milk except for medical reasons and subsidise Guernsey milk.0
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Well yeah, of course.rick_chasey said:Also smoked bacon superior to unsmoked.
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Can someone please post something I disagree with?0
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Bacon is the food of the devil0
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No one should buy smoked pancetta cubes in t'supermarket, you won't like them.
(Leave them all for me, I'll take care of the problem)0 -
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Dieticians arguing about fat is quite amusing. 40 years of definitive thought without much in the way of actual research supporting it.rick_chasey said:If I was king for a day I’d ban all non-full fat milk except for medical reasons and subsidise Guernsey milk.
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Just watching Countryfile. Oven ready Crickets look really yummy.0
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Shirt off basking messes with the tan lines so one should not do it.0
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We were tempted with caramel crickets in Thailand. Didn't quite pull the trigger. Last day and we needed the cash for tips.webboo said:Just watching Countryfile. Oven ready Crickets look really yummy.
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And we get uppity about American chickens living in swimming poolsorraloon said:The white stuff is the injected brine coming back out on cooking, the mark of low quality product.
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