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I feel this is a gammony takeStevo_666 said:
I know but bacon is the best type of meat. I mean, if you wanted to convert a vegetarian back to being an omnivore that's very probably what you'd use to do it.Ben6899 said:
It's a catchall statement, @Stevo_666 , it includes bacon. It's a genuine opinion of mine and here seems like a good place to share it.Stevo_666 said:
Now if you said that we should stop eating bacon, then you'd have a really unpopular opinion.Ben6899 said:We should stop eating meat, really.
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Badoom-tish.rick_chasey said:
I feel this is a gammony takeStevo_666 said:
I know but bacon is the best type of meat. I mean, if you wanted to convert a vegetarian back to being an omnivore that's very probably what you'd use to do it.Ben6899 said:
It's a catchall statement, @Stevo_666 , it includes bacon. It's a genuine opinion of mine and here seems like a good place to share it.Stevo_666 said:
Now if you said that we should stop eating bacon, then you'd have a really unpopular opinion.Ben6899 said:We should stop eating meat, really.
I know one person who lapsed out vegetarianism on account of bacon. Can't say I blame her."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Best I don't share my BMI then. 😉rick_chasey said:Yeah I did but this is a cycling forum so I assume everyone is a fat shamer.
Unpopular opinion (?), BMI is a useless metric.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.3 -
Nah, I'm just fatrick_chasey said:Yeah I did but this is a cycling forum so I assume everyone is a fat shamer.
It's just a hill. Get over it.0 -
It works quite well for most body types... I think the main issue is that everyone feels they are a little bit special and BMI doesn't really reflect their real body type...pblakeney said:
Best I don't share my BMI then. 😉rick_chasey said:Yeah I did but this is a cycling forum so I assume everyone is a fat shamer.
Unpopular opinion (?), BMI is a useless metric.
A full figure mirror in a shopping mall changing room typically reveals the extent of the problem... there should always be an image of Michelangelo's David for comparison of how a good BMI looks likeleft the forum March 20230 -
Nah BMI is just sh.it. Anyone who is carrying X amount of extra muscle scores the same or even worse as someone carrying the same amount of flab. It's just a nonesense.ugo.santalucia said:
It works quite well for most body types... I think the main issue is that everyone feels they are a little bit special and BMI doesn't really reflect their real body type...pblakeney said:
Best I don't share my BMI then. 😉rick_chasey said:Yeah I did but this is a cycling forum so I assume everyone is a fat shamer.
Unpopular opinion (?), BMI is a useless metric.
A full figure mirror in a shopping mall changing room typically reveals the extent of the problem... there should always be an image of Michelangelo's David for comparison of how a good BMI looks like2 -
If you're genuinely worried about whether your weight gives you a healthy BMI, you're probably not carrying too much muscle.shortfall said:
Nah BMI is just sh.it. Anyone who is carrying X amount of extra muscle scores the same or even worse as someone carrying the same amount of flab. It's just a nonesense.ugo.santalucia said:
It works quite well for most body types... I think the main issue is that everyone feels they are a little bit special and BMI doesn't really reflect their real body type...pblakeney said:
Best I don't share my BMI then. 😉rick_chasey said:Yeah I did but this is a cycling forum so I assume everyone is a fat shamer.
Unpopular opinion (?), BMI is a useless metric.
A full figure mirror in a shopping mall changing room typically reveals the extent of the problem... there should always be an image of Michelangelo's David for comparison of how a good BMI looks like0 -
True, but not many people who claim to carry extra muscle actually do... when you can't see the abdominal muscles, that's not extra muscle covering them...shortfall said:
Nah BMI is just sh.it. Anyone who is carrying X amount of extra muscle scores the same or even worse as someone carrying the same amount of flab. It's just a nonesense.
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Virtually every Olympic sprinter is hugely overweight by that measure.pblakeney said:
Best I don't share my BMI then. 😉rick_chasey said:Yeah I did but this is a cycling forum so I assume everyone is a fat shamer.
Unpopular opinion (?), BMI is a useless metric.1 -
true... not many of them around thought...First.Aspect said:
Virtually every Olympic sprinter is hugely overweight by that measure.pblakeney said:
Best I don't share my BMI then. 😉rick_chasey said:Yeah I did but this is a cycling forum so I assume everyone is a fat shamer.
Unpopular opinion (?), BMI is a useless metric.
How many elite athletes... 1 in a thousand population?left the forum March 20231 -
Yeah but that's not what I'm saying. When I was into the gym I was 16 stone, 10% body fat with visible abs and could row 2000m in 6 minutes 22. In other words I was in good shape and fairly fit with it. I was never an Olympian or elite standard at anything, just an ordinary bloke who did a bit in the gym but my bmi made me not only overweight but borderline obese. I wasn't an isolated case. If anyone can show me some good science to support it as a good measure of a healthy weight then I'm all ears.ugo.santalucia said:
True, but not many people who claim to carry extra muscle actually do... when you can't see the abdominal muscles, that's not extra muscle covering them...shortfall said:
Nah BMI is just sh.it. Anyone who is carrying X amount of extra muscle scores the same or even worse as someone carrying the same amount of flab. It's just a nonesense.1 -
You were 1 in a thousand, or maybe 1 in a 100, point is you were not the 99% and you were aware of that, so it doesn't matter.shortfall said:
Yeah but that's not what I'm saying. When I was into the gym I was 16 stone, 10% body fat and could row 2000m in 6 minutes 22. In other words I was in good shape and very fit with it but my bmi made me not only overweight but borderline obese. I wasn't an isolated case. If anyone can show me some good science to support it as a good measure of a healthy weight then I'm all ears.ugo.santalucia said:
True, but not many people who claim to carry extra muscle actually do... when you can't see the abdominal muscles, that's not extra muscle covering them...shortfall said:
Nah BMI is just sh.it. Anyone who is carrying X amount of extra muscle scores the same or even worse as someone carrying the same amount of flab. It's just a nonesense.
BMI is a simple metric that works well for the general population, as it provides an unequivocal number that you can relate to a scale. If an athlete doesn't fit in that category, it's not relevant, they know they don't have a weight problem.
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That was on a Concept 2 machine not in a boat.rick_chasey said:who were you rowing for to be doing sub 6:30 2ks?
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That's fair comment but my I understanding is that some companies use it as a metric when offering health insurance and medical cover for travel etc and it can affect premiums and whether cover is offered.ugo.santalucia said:
You were 1 in a thousand, or maybe 1 in a 100, point is you were not the 99% and you were aware of that, so it doesn't matter.shortfall said:
Yeah but that's not what I'm saying. When I was into the gym I was 16 stone, 10% body fat and could row 2000m in 6 minutes 22. In other words I was in good shape and very fit with it but my bmi made me not only overweight but borderline obese. I wasn't an isolated case. If anyone can show me some good science to support it as a good measure of a healthy weight then I'm all ears.ugo.santalucia said:
True, but not many people who claim to carry extra muscle actually do... when you can't see the abdominal muscles, that's not extra muscle covering them...shortfall said:
Nah BMI is just sh.it. Anyone who is carrying X amount of extra muscle scores the same or even worse as someone carrying the same amount of flab. It's just a nonesense.
BMI is a simple metric that works well for the general population, as it provides an unequivocal number that you can relate to a scale. If an athlete doesn't fit in that category, it's not relevant, they know they don't have a weight problem.0 -
Fair point.ugo.santalucia said:
true... not many of them around thought...First.Aspect said:
Virtually every Olympic sprinter is hugely overweight by that measure.pblakeney said:
Best I don't share my BMI then. 😉rick_chasey said:Yeah I did but this is a cycling forum so I assume everyone is a fat shamer.
Unpopular opinion (?), BMI is a useless metric.
How many elite athletes... 1 in a thousand population?0 -
Guess one has to shop around for those that don't... a triumph of the free markets and all of that...shortfall said:
That's fair comment but my I understanding is that some companies use it as a metric when offering health insurance and medical cover for travel etc and it can affect premiums and whether cover is offered.ugo.santalucia said:
You were 1 in a thousand, or maybe 1 in a 100, point is you were not the 99% and you were aware of that, so it doesn't matter.shortfall said:
Yeah but that's not what I'm saying. When I was into the gym I was 16 stone, 10% body fat and could row 2000m in 6 minutes 22. In other words I was in good shape and very fit with it but my bmi made me not only overweight but borderline obese. I wasn't an isolated case. If anyone can show me some good science to support it as a good measure of a healthy weight then I'm all ears.ugo.santalucia said:
True, but not many people who claim to carry extra muscle actually do... when you can't see the abdominal muscles, that's not extra muscle covering them...shortfall said:
Nah BMI is just sh.it. Anyone who is carrying X amount of extra muscle scores the same or even worse as someone carrying the same amount of flab. It's just a nonesense.
BMI is a simple metric that works well for the general population, as it provides an unequivocal number that you can relate to a scale. If an athlete doesn't fit in that category, it's not relevant, they know they don't have a weight problem.left the forum March 20230 -
Yeah I know - you don't have lakes in gyms.shortfall said:
That was on a Concept 2 machine not in a boat.rick_chasey said:who were you rowing for to be doing sub 6:30 2ks?
If you're doing those times you ought to be looking into trying to get into the national team with a bit of coaching...spidy senses think it might be BS but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.0 -
I was in my 30s then and I've got the height and physique for rowing and it was just something that came naturally to me. If I'd started younger and had some coaching who knows? I'm in my 50s now but I managed a sub 6.30 a couple of years ago and 17.30 for 5k. I could send you the link to the Concept site with my verified times but then I'd have to kill you.rick_chasey said:
Yeah I know - you don't have lakes in gyms.shortfall said:
That was on a Concept 2 machine not in a boat.rick_chasey said:who were you rowing for to be doing sub 6:30 2ks?
If you're doing those times you ought to be looking into trying to get into the national team with a bit of coaching...spidy senses think it might be BS but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.0 -
Nah. Elite level is low 6 mins at most. That's light years from 6.22.rick_chasey said:
Yeah I know - you don't have lakes in gyms.shortfall said:
That was on a Concept 2 machine not in a boat.rick_chasey said:who were you rowing for to be doing sub 6:30 2ks?
If you're doing those times you ought to be looking into trying to get into the national team with a bit of coaching...spidy senses think it might be BS but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Bloody good time though. Best I ever managed as a lwt was 6m38. But then I'm only 5"10'. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
I think a large proportion of men who go to the gym are classed as overweight by BMI. It is a good rule of thumb, like the much debated 220-age, but any formula that simple is only ever going to be a bit of a crayon. And BMI penalises muscle mass over adipose tissue.
That's fine, if only the medical professionals (by which I mean GPs) wouldn't treat it as though it is gospel.0 -
This. The effort and training required to drop from 6.30 to 6.22 was brutal. Getting to 6.15 might have been attainable if I'd started in my teens but I certainly didn't have the time, inclination or natural ability to get anywhere near elite level. Those guys are insane.First.Aspect said:
Nah. Elite level is low 6 mins at most. That's light years from 6.22.rick_chasey said:
Yeah I know - you don't have lakes in gyms.shortfall said:
That was on a Concept 2 machine not in a boat.rick_chasey said:who were you rowing for to be doing sub 6:30 2ks?
If you're doing those times you ought to be looking into trying to get into the national team with a bit of coaching...spidy senses think it might be BS but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
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I think that is changing. When I have my annual MOT (which will be with a practice nurse filling in the std Q and A) they do take account of overall fitness levels, physical activities etc. My BMI will always be on the high end of the norm, but when I set out my gym activity, bike ride durations, distances and frequencies and the like, it does provide context and proves that I'm not just a lardy couch tattie.First.Aspect said:
That's fine, if only the medical professionals (by which I mean GPs) wouldn't treat it as though it is gospel.
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Unpopular opinion - If people are going to preach then they have to practice it first.
Evidence in my case being an overweight nurse telling me I should lose a couple of kilos followed by a GP with a bulbous nose telling me to consume less alcohol.
In fairness, I guess they know what they are talking about. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Do as I say not as I do.0
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Rishi should knock the furlough scheme on the head and get people back to work.2
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No more lottery money should go to Elite sport.
The project proved you can deliver success with enough resources and we enjoyed a successful home olympics.
It’s all gone a bit sour since.0 -
Sausages > Bacon“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1
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He should target it to things he's still keeping shut.ballysmate said:Rishi should knock the furlough scheme on the head and get people back to work.
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Closing the furlough scheme won't get people back to work.kingstongraham said:
He should target it to things he's still keeping shut.ballysmate said:Rishi should knock the furlough scheme on the head and get people back to work.
No one furloughed themselves.
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tailwindhome said:
Closing the furlough scheme won't get people back to work.kingstongraham said:
He should target it to things he's still keeping shut.ballysmate said:Rishi should knock the furlough scheme on the head and get people back to work.
No one furloughed themselves.
Closing the furlough scheme will get more people back to work. Closing the furlough scheme will cause higher unemployment. Tricky for him.0
