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I think at that point they are usually mortified, so "it's so out of character..." Ultimately watching a sheep or lamb being mauled to death is not the most pleasant experience for the city dweller stretching their legs in the countryside, so there is almost a lesson learnt.rjsterry said:
"But it's alright, he's just being friendly."TheBigBean said:
My farming relatives lose a few sheep a year to dog walkers who refuse to follow signs on someone else's land.rick_chasey said:
Well the thing is, is that a) the playgrounds are shut for corona and b) the other parks allow dogs off leads (which is fine - I just don't go to those).rjsterry said:
I find silently tutting to myself, combined with a bit of glaring works well. 😏rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
More seriously, if it's happening that often it's probably worth finding somewhere else. There'll be less risk of toxoplasmosis as well - owners that can't be bothered to train their dogs properly probably don't pick up their turds either.
So I'm not against dogs off leads per-se. Just not where they're not supposed to be.
Still, I do think Rick would be better off managing his fears and therefore recognising a dog that is actually just being friendly.
As I said upthread, I have been to many countries where they are a serious problem, and I really didn't like it, but I can at least tell the difference between a dog playing and a dog on the verge of attack.
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I'm not interested in the dog's intentions, friendly or otherwise. I don't want it near me and in a place where they should be on leads, that's not really too much to ask.TheBigBean said:
I think at that point they are usually mortified, so "it's so out of character..." Ultimately watching a sheep or lamb being mauled to death is not the most pleasant experience for the city dweller stretching their legs in the countryside, so there is almost a lesson learnt.rjsterry said:
"But it's alright, he's just being friendly."TheBigBean said:
My farming relatives lose a few sheep a year to dog walkers who refuse to follow signs on someone else's land.rick_chasey said:
Well the thing is, is that a) the playgrounds are shut for corona and b) the other parks allow dogs off leads (which is fine - I just don't go to those).rjsterry said:
I find silently tutting to myself, combined with a bit of glaring works well. 😏rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
More seriously, if it's happening that often it's probably worth finding somewhere else. There'll be less risk of toxoplasmosis as well - owners that can't be bothered to train their dogs properly probably don't pick up their turds either.
So I'm not against dogs off leads per-se. Just not where they're not supposed to be.
Still, I do think Rick would be better off managing his fears and therefore recognising a dog that is actually just being friendly.
As I said upthread, I have been to many countries where they are a serious problem, and I really didn't like it, but I can at least tell the difference between a dog playing and a dog on the verge of attack.
Control your dogs. It's not difficult. If it is, maybe don't have one. And if you can and let it happen anyway, realise that not everyone likes you dog, and accept some people really hate them.
While I'm at it, clean up their f*cking sh!t properly.
Shout out to the woman who let her dog with the runs sh!t in front of my house. She didn't have the last laugh however.1 -
Most of rural Britain, as far as I can tell, considers the terms "wildlife" and "vermin" to be synonyms.rjsterry said:
Wut? In what way do we not cope with either? I'm currently coping with four of them living in my garden. Not sure I'd say we happily coexist, they recently dug up and dismembered one of their deceased fellows and spread his or her body parts across the lawn, which was a bit much, but we rub along together somehow. No badgers, sadly, but then I'm not a dairy farmer.First.Aspect said:
That's not the point. The British can't seem to cope with badgers or foxes. Its humiliating.rjsterry said:
There's a wee bit more space in Canada. There have been no wild bears here for 1500 years.First.Aspect said:
We ought to be able to coexist with animals like bears and wolves. Canadians manage okay. But the Victorians completed the sterilisation of this country and the mindset seems to persist. Too many people have a fear of anything not made of tarmac, concrete or glass.morstar said:Bad incidents with animals (that aren’t above you in the food chain) often come down to your own behaviour.
The day I stared down a bull ended up with me being chased and only just escaping with an adrenaline fuelled, world record leap.
Why was I staring down a bull? Because I was censored scared about the potential for it to chase me. Self fulfilling prophecy.
People shouldn’t have to run a gauntlet of wild animals in built up areas but conversely, they should learn how to behave around animals. It’s a basic life skill.
That's unnatural.
(Btw, don't understand how you could possibly confuse a bull with anything other than something to be admired at a safe distance, or the other side of a fence or river. It's clearly not a cow and one can spot this from a distance.)
- Foxes. Shoot them, will kill sheep and spread disease (no basis for this).
- Crows and birds of prey. Poison them, the peck lambs eyes out. Already dead ones, yes.
- Badgers. Poison, suffocate and/or shoot them, they spread disease. Yes, they catch disease from diseased cattle and spread them to other diseased cattle. Much like shuttling diseased cattle around to inflate apparent cattle numbers and obtain subsidies.
- Hares. Shoot them. No reason, but I have a gun.
- Deer, shoot them. There are too many because we've rendered extinct all predators.
- Geese, scare them off or shoot them, they poo and eat grass.
- Trees, cut them down before they fall down. Besides, they could be triffids.
Honestly, the better option would be to eradicate farmers, farm workers and wankers who wear tweed.0 -
If your dog is any risk of biting anyone or anything, it really should be on a lead.
We had a dog who was great with people but couldn't be trusted near other dogs for years, so he always got walked on a lead. He chilled out when he got to about 12 years old.
Other dog owners often said "it will do mine good to be taught a lesson". Not actually true when taught the way he would have.0 -
Countryside is wonderful to cycle through, but you shan't see me living there any time soon.First.Aspect said:
Most of rural Britain, as far as I can tell, considers the terms "wildlife" and "vermin" to be synonyms.rjsterry said:
Wut? In what way do we not cope with either? I'm currently coping with four of them living in my garden. Not sure I'd say we happily coexist, they recently dug up and dismembered one of their deceased fellows and spread his or her body parts across the lawn, which was a bit much, but we rub along together somehow. No badgers, sadly, but then I'm not a dairy farmer.First.Aspect said:
That's not the point. The British can't seem to cope with badgers or foxes. Its humiliating.rjsterry said:
There's a wee bit more space in Canada. There have been no wild bears here for 1500 years.First.Aspect said:
We ought to be able to coexist with animals like bears and wolves. Canadians manage okay. But the Victorians completed the sterilisation of this country and the mindset seems to persist. Too many people have a fear of anything not made of tarmac, concrete or glass.morstar said:Bad incidents with animals (that aren’t above you in the food chain) often come down to your own behaviour.
The day I stared down a bull ended up with me being chased and only just escaping with an adrenaline fuelled, world record leap.
Why was I staring down a bull? Because I was censored scared about the potential for it to chase me. Self fulfilling prophecy.
People shouldn’t have to run a gauntlet of wild animals in built up areas but conversely, they should learn how to behave around animals. It’s a basic life skill.
That's unnatural.
(Btw, don't understand how you could possibly confuse a bull with anything other than something to be admired at a safe distance, or the other side of a fence or river. It's clearly not a cow and one can spot this from a distance.)
- Foxes. Shoot them, will kill sheep and spread disease (no basis for this).
- Crows and birds of prey. Poison them, the peck lambs eyes out. Already dead ones, yes.
- Badgers. Poison, suffocate and/or shoot them, they spread disease. Yes, they catch disease from diseased cattle and spread them to other diseased cattle. Much like shuttling diseased cattle around to inflate apparent cattle numbers and obtain subsidies.
- Hares. Shoot them. No reason, but I have a gun.
- Deer, shoot them. There are too many because we've rendered extinct all predators.
- Geese, scare them off or shoot them, they poo and eat grass.
- Trees, cut them down before they fall down. Besides, they could be triffids.
Honestly, the better option would be to eradicate farmers, farm workers and wankers who wear tweed.0 -
As far as you can tell? Not sure where you get this from but it seems to be completely at odds with reality. If you don't like farming I would suggest you are living on the wrong island.First.Aspect said:
Most of rural Britain, as far as I can tell, considers the terms "wildlife" and "vermin" to be synonyms.rjsterry said:
Wut? In what way do we not cope with either? I'm currently coping with four of them living in my garden. Not sure I'd say we happily coexist, they recently dug up and dismembered one of their deceased fellows and spread his or her body parts across the lawn, which was a bit much, but we rub along together somehow. No badgers, sadly, but then I'm not a dairy farmer.First.Aspect said:
That's not the point. The British can't seem to cope with badgers or foxes. Its humiliating.rjsterry said:
There's a wee bit more space in Canada. There have been no wild bears here for 1500 years.First.Aspect said:
We ought to be able to coexist with animals like bears and wolves. Canadians manage okay. But the Victorians completed the sterilisation of this country and the mindset seems to persist. Too many people have a fear of anything not made of tarmac, concrete or glass.morstar said:Bad incidents with animals (that aren’t above you in the food chain) often come down to your own behaviour.
The day I stared down a bull ended up with me being chased and only just escaping with an adrenaline fuelled, world record leap.
Why was I staring down a bull? Because I was censored scared about the potential for it to chase me. Self fulfilling prophecy.
People shouldn’t have to run a gauntlet of wild animals in built up areas but conversely, they should learn how to behave around animals. It’s a basic life skill.
That's unnatural.
(Btw, don't understand how you could possibly confuse a bull with anything other than something to be admired at a safe distance, or the other side of a fence or river. It's clearly not a cow and one can spot this from a distance.)
- Foxes. Shoot them, will kill sheep and spread disease (no basis for this).
- Crows and birds of prey. Poison them, the peck lambs eyes out. Already dead ones, yes.
- Badgers. Poison, suffocate and/or shoot them, they spread disease. Yes, they catch disease from diseased cattle and spread them to other diseased cattle. Much like shuttling diseased cattle around to inflate apparent cattle numbers and obtain subsidies.
- Hares. Shoot them. No reason, but I have a gun.
- Deer, shoot them. There are too many because we've rendered extinct all predators.
- Geese, scare them off or shoot them, they poo and eat grass.
- Trees, cut them down before they fall down. Besides, they could be triffids.
Honestly, the better option would be to eradicate farmers, farm workers and wankers who wear tweed.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Sounds like RC is looking for another reason not to leave his house now he has no excuse to be scared of C19 any morerick_chasey said:
I'm not interested in the dog's intentions, friendly or otherwise. I don't want it near me and in a place where they should be on leads, that's not really too much to ask.TheBigBean said:
I think at that point they are usually mortified, so "it's so out of character..." Ultimately watching a sheep or lamb being mauled to death is not the most pleasant experience for the city dweller stretching their legs in the countryside, so there is almost a lesson learnt.rjsterry said:
"But it's alright, he's just being friendly."TheBigBean said:
My farming relatives lose a few sheep a year to dog walkers who refuse to follow signs on someone else's land.rick_chasey said:
Well the thing is, is that a) the playgrounds are shut for corona and b) the other parks allow dogs off leads (which is fine - I just don't go to those).rjsterry said:
I find silently tutting to myself, combined with a bit of glaring works well. 😏rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
More seriously, if it's happening that often it's probably worth finding somewhere else. There'll be less risk of toxoplasmosis as well - owners that can't be bothered to train their dogs properly probably don't pick up their turds either.
So I'm not against dogs off leads per-se. Just not where they're not supposed to be.
Still, I do think Rick would be better off managing his fears and therefore recognising a dog that is actually just being friendly.
As I said upthread, I have been to many countries where they are a serious problem, and I really didn't like it, but I can at least tell the difference between a dog playing and a dog on the verge of attack.
Control your dogs. It's not difficult. If it is, maybe don't have one. And if you can and let it happen anyway, realise that not everyone likes you dog, and accept some people really hate them.
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This reminds me of another unpopular opinion - I have recently started to want to hunt with a bow and arrow. Purpose would be to eat the spoils.
I was completely against it for years, and it is illegal in the UK.0 -
Richmond Park?
Mmmm, venison.
Not sure I'd eat urban fox.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Indeed.rjsterry said:Richmond Park?
Mmmm, venison.
Not sure I'd eat urban fox.
In Newfoundland pretty much every family (it seemed that way) hunts one moose every year. it then feeds the family for much of the winter. The moose has no natural predator and they all originate from 4 imported moose. Other than for vegetarians, I can't see why anyone would object to this.
I think I would start smaller with my bow and arrow though. I might even like eating rabbit if I had caught it myself.0 -
Farming is fine, it is the attitude to sustainability that irks me. And the disregard for anything evidence based.rjsterry said:
As far as you can tell? Not sure where you get this from but it seems to be completely at odds with reality. If you don't like farming I would suggest you are living on the wrong island.First.Aspect said:
Most of rural Britain, as far as I can tell, considers the terms "wildlife" and "vermin" to be synonyms.rjsterry said:
Wut? In what way do we not cope with either? I'm currently coping with four of them living in my garden. Not sure I'd say we happily coexist, they recently dug up and dismembered one of their deceased fellows and spread his or her body parts across the lawn, which was a bit much, but we rub along together somehow. No badgers, sadly, but then I'm not a dairy farmer.First.Aspect said:
That's not the point. The British can't seem to cope with badgers or foxes. Its humiliating.rjsterry said:
There's a wee bit more space in Canada. There have been no wild bears here for 1500 years.First.Aspect said:
We ought to be able to coexist with animals like bears and wolves. Canadians manage okay. But the Victorians completed the sterilisation of this country and the mindset seems to persist. Too many people have a fear of anything not made of tarmac, concrete or glass.morstar said:Bad incidents with animals (that aren’t above you in the food chain) often come down to your own behaviour.
The day I stared down a bull ended up with me being chased and only just escaping with an adrenaline fuelled, world record leap.
Why was I staring down a bull? Because I was censored scared about the potential for it to chase me. Self fulfilling prophecy.
People shouldn’t have to run a gauntlet of wild animals in built up areas but conversely, they should learn how to behave around animals. It’s a basic life skill.
That's unnatural.
(Btw, don't understand how you could possibly confuse a bull with anything other than something to be admired at a safe distance, or the other side of a fence or river. It's clearly not a cow and one can spot this from a distance.)
- Foxes. Shoot them, will kill sheep and spread disease (no basis for this).
- Crows and birds of prey. Poison them, the peck lambs eyes out. Already dead ones, yes.
- Badgers. Poison, suffocate and/or shoot them, they spread disease. Yes, they catch disease from diseased cattle and spread them to other diseased cattle. Much like shuttling diseased cattle around to inflate apparent cattle numbers and obtain subsidies.
- Hares. Shoot them. No reason, but I have a gun.
- Deer, shoot them. There are too many because we've rendered extinct all predators.
- Geese, scare them off or shoot them, they poo and eat grass.
- Trees, cut them down before they fall down. Besides, they could be triffids.
Honestly, the better option would be to eradicate farmers, farm workers and wankers who wear tweed.
Tell me how I'm at odds with reality, by the way. Did I forget something else that is vermin and needs controlling? Otters perhaps. They must be pests, there are loads of them and one of them bit Terry Nutkins' finger off.
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^^^^ Modified for an alternative unpopular opinion. (Not mine.)rick_chasey said:
I'm not interested in the child's intentions, friendly or otherwise. I don't want it near me and in a place where they should be on leads, that's not really too much to ask.TheBigBean said:
I think at that point they are usually mortified, so "it's so out of character..." Ultimately watching a sheep or lamb being mauled to death is not the most pleasant experience for the city dweller stretching their legs in the countryside, so there is almost a lesson learnt.rjsterry said:
"But it's alright, he's just being friendly."TheBigBean said:
My farming relatives lose a few sheep a year to dog walkers who refuse to follow signs on someone else's land.rick_chasey said:
Well the thing is, is that a) the playgrounds are shut for corona and b) the other parks allow dogs off leads (which is fine - I just don't go to those).rjsterry said:
I find silently tutting to myself, combined with a bit of glaring works well. 😏rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
More seriously, if it's happening that often it's probably worth finding somewhere else. There'll be less risk of toxoplasmosis as well - owners that can't be bothered to train their dogs properly probably don't pick up their turds either.
So I'm not against dogs off leads per-se. Just not where they're not supposed to be.
Still, I do think Rick would be better off managing his fears and therefore recognising a dog that is actually just being friendly.
As I said upthread, I have been to many countries where they are a serious problem, and I really didn't like it, but I can at least tell the difference between a dog playing and a dog on the verge of attack.
Control your children. It's not difficult. If it is, maybe don't have one. And if you can and let it happen anyway, realise that not everyone likes your child, and accept some people really hate them.
While I'm at it, clean up their f*cking sh!t properly.
Shout out to the woman who let her child with the runs sh!t in front of my house. She didn't have the last laugh however.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
😄First.Aspect said:
Farming is fine, it is the attitude to sustainability that irks me. And the disregard for anything evidence based.rjsterry said:
As far as you can tell? Not sure where you get this from but it seems to be completely at odds with reality. If you don't like farming I would suggest you are living on the wrong island.First.Aspect said:
Most of rural Britain, as far as I can tell, considers the terms "wildlife" and "vermin" to be synonyms.rjsterry said:
Wut? In what way do we not cope with either? I'm currently coping with four of them living in my garden. Not sure I'd say we happily coexist, they recently dug up and dismembered one of their deceased fellows and spread his or her body parts across the lawn, which was a bit much, but we rub along together somehow. No badgers, sadly, but then I'm not a dairy farmer.First.Aspect said:
That's not the point. The British can't seem to cope with badgers or foxes. Its humiliating.rjsterry said:
There's a wee bit more space in Canada. There have been no wild bears here for 1500 years.First.Aspect said:
We ought to be able to coexist with animals like bears and wolves. Canadians manage okay. But the Victorians completed the sterilisation of this country and the mindset seems to persist. Too many people have a fear of anything not made of tarmac, concrete or glass.morstar said:Bad incidents with animals (that aren’t above you in the food chain) often come down to your own behaviour.
The day I stared down a bull ended up with me being chased and only just escaping with an adrenaline fuelled, world record leap.
Why was I staring down a bull? Because I was censored scared about the potential for it to chase me. Self fulfilling prophecy.
People shouldn’t have to run a gauntlet of wild animals in built up areas but conversely, they should learn how to behave around animals. It’s a basic life skill.
That's unnatural.
(Btw, don't understand how you could possibly confuse a bull with anything other than something to be admired at a safe distance, or the other side of a fence or river. It's clearly not a cow and one can spot this from a distance.)
- Foxes. Shoot them, will kill sheep and spread disease (no basis for this).
- Crows and birds of prey. Poison them, the peck lambs eyes out. Already dead ones, yes.
- Badgers. Poison, suffocate and/or shoot them, they spread disease. Yes, they catch disease from diseased cattle and spread them to other diseased cattle. Much like shuttling diseased cattle around to inflate apparent cattle numbers and obtain subsidies.
- Hares. Shoot them. No reason, but I have a gun.
- Deer, shoot them. There are too many because we've rendered extinct all predators.
- Geese, scare them off or shoot them, they poo and eat grass.
- Trees, cut them down before they fall down. Besides, they could be triffids.
Honestly, the better option would be to eradicate farmers, farm workers and wankers who wear tweed.
Tell me how I'm at odds with reality, by the way. Did I forget something else that is vermin and needs controlling? Otters perhaps. They must be pests, there are loads of them and one of them bit Terry Nutkins' finger off.
I'm sure there are some people who think/do as you have described. To suggest that that is most people is just ridiculous. With two veterinary parents in mixed practice, the ongoing problem of Bovine TB formed a significant part of my childhood. I've never understood why people get all teary about badgers but couldn't give a damn about the thousands of slaughtered dairy cattle.
As for foxes, those that like to gallop around in red jackets like to have something to chase, so it's pretty clear they aren't trying to eradicate them.
Deer are escaped livestock. They have been kept in enclosed deer parks specifically for hunting since the Norman conquest. Left unhunted they are anything but sustainable. In any case what is the difference predation by humans and other carnivores?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Just for the record, my child is very much 'under control' and doesn't get up in people's faces, nor sh!ts on people's doorsteps.pblakeney said:
^^^^ Modified for an alternative unpopular opinion. (Not mine.)rick_chasey said:
I'm not interested in the child's intentions, friendly or otherwise. I don't want it near me and in a place where they should be on leads, that's not really too much to ask.TheBigBean said:
I think at that point they are usually mortified, so "it's so out of character..." Ultimately watching a sheep or lamb being mauled to death is not the most pleasant experience for the city dweller stretching their legs in the countryside, so there is almost a lesson learnt.rjsterry said:
"But it's alright, he's just being friendly."TheBigBean said:
My farming relatives lose a few sheep a year to dog walkers who refuse to follow signs on someone else's land.rick_chasey said:
Well the thing is, is that a) the playgrounds are shut for corona and b) the other parks allow dogs off leads (which is fine - I just don't go to those).rjsterry said:
I find silently tutting to myself, combined with a bit of glaring works well. 😏rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
More seriously, if it's happening that often it's probably worth finding somewhere else. There'll be less risk of toxoplasmosis as well - owners that can't be bothered to train their dogs properly probably don't pick up their turds either.
So I'm not against dogs off leads per-se. Just not where they're not supposed to be.
Still, I do think Rick would be better off managing his fears and therefore recognising a dog that is actually just being friendly.
As I said upthread, I have been to many countries where they are a serious problem, and I really didn't like it, but I can at least tell the difference between a dog playing and a dog on the verge of attack.
Control your children. It's not difficult. If it is, maybe don't have one. And if you can and let it happen anyway, realise that not everyone likes your child, and accept some people really hate them.
While I'm at it, clean up their f*cking sh!t properly.
Shout out to the woman who let her child with the runs sh!t in front of my house. She didn't have the last laugh however.0 -
Go to a different part of the park, or a different park. That's what we do when we want to walk the dogs but want to avoid them being distracted by picnics/bbqs or people playing ball games. Unless you think you can single handedly deal with all of the people doing what you don't like...rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
What has been changed? Seems perfectly reasonable to me.pblakeney said:
^^^^ Modified for an alternative unpopular opinion. (Not mine.)rick_chasey said:
I'm not interested in the child's intentions, friendly or otherwise. I don't want it near me and in a place where they should be on leads, that's not really too much to ask.TheBigBean said:
I think at that point they are usually mortified, so "it's so out of character..." Ultimately watching a sheep or lamb being mauled to death is not the most pleasant experience for the city dweller stretching their legs in the countryside, so there is almost a lesson learnt.rjsterry said:
"But it's alright, he's just being friendly."TheBigBean said:
My farming relatives lose a few sheep a year to dog walkers who refuse to follow signs on someone else's land.rick_chasey said:
Well the thing is, is that a) the playgrounds are shut for corona and b) the other parks allow dogs off leads (which is fine - I just don't go to those).rjsterry said:
I find silently tutting to myself, combined with a bit of glaring works well. 😏rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
More seriously, if it's happening that often it's probably worth finding somewhere else. There'll be less risk of toxoplasmosis as well - owners that can't be bothered to train their dogs properly probably don't pick up their turds either.
So I'm not against dogs off leads per-se. Just not where they're not supposed to be.
Still, I do think Rick would be better off managing his fears and therefore recognising a dog that is actually just being friendly.
As I said upthread, I have been to many countries where they are a serious problem, and I really didn't like it, but I can at least tell the difference between a dog playing and a dog on the verge of attack.
Control your children. It's not difficult. If it is, maybe don't have one. And if you can and let it happen anyway, realise that not everyone likes your child, and accept some people really hate them.
While I'm at it, clean up their f*cking sh!t properly.
Shout out to the woman who let her child with the runs sh!t in front of my house. She didn't have the last laugh however.0 -
See above. Plenty of parks around but only this one (Which is also the smallest), has a dogs-on-a-lead rule.Stevo_666 said:
Go to a different part of the park, or a different park. That's what we do when we want to walk the dogs but want to avoid them being distracted by picnics/bbqs or people playing ball games. Unless you think you can single handedly deal with all of the people doing what you don't like...rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
So why should they break the rules and get away with it and leave me in the lurch? They have plenty of options. I do not.0 -
What are you doing hanging around parks anyway?rick_chasey said:
See above. Plenty of parks around but only this one (Which is also the smallest), has a dogs-on-a-lead rule.Stevo_666 said:
Go to a different part of the park, or a different park. That's what we do when we want to walk the dogs but want to avoid them being distracted by picnics/bbqs or people playing ball games. Unless you think you can single handedly deal with all of the people doing what you don't like...rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
So why should they break the rules and get away with it and leave me in the lurch? They have plenty of options. I do not.0 -
If there are loads of parks near you then go to one of them, unless you can think of a way of stopping everyone who lets their dog off of lead. I remember taking the dog for a walk on Coldhams Common while junior and Mrs. 666 were doing a tour of one of the colleges. Acres of space and pretty deserted.rick_chasey said:
See above. Plenty of parks around but only this one (Which is also the smallest), has a dogs-on-a-lead rule.Stevo_666 said:
Go to a different part of the park, or a different park. That's what we do when we want to walk the dogs but want to avoid them being distracted by picnics/bbqs or people playing ball games. Unless you think you can single handedly deal with all of the people doing what you don't like...rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
So why should they break the rules and get away with it and leave me in the lurch? They have plenty of options. I do not."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I'd hold off gloating until you're a grandad. Plenty of time for things to change yet.rick_chasey said:
Just for the record, my child is very much 'under control' and doesn't get up in people's faces, nor sh!ts on people's doorsteps.pblakeney said:
^^^^ Modified for an alternative unpopular opinion. (Not mine.)rick_chasey said:
I'm not interested in the child's intentions, friendly or otherwise. I don't want it near me and in a place where they should be on leads, that's not really too much to ask.TheBigBean said:
I think at that point they are usually mortified, so "it's so out of character..." Ultimately watching a sheep or lamb being mauled to death is not the most pleasant experience for the city dweller stretching their legs in the countryside, so there is almost a lesson learnt.rjsterry said:
"But it's alright, he's just being friendly."TheBigBean said:
My farming relatives lose a few sheep a year to dog walkers who refuse to follow signs on someone else's land.rick_chasey said:
Well the thing is, is that a) the playgrounds are shut for corona and b) the other parks allow dogs off leads (which is fine - I just don't go to those).rjsterry said:
I find silently tutting to myself, combined with a bit of glaring works well. 😏rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
More seriously, if it's happening that often it's probably worth finding somewhere else. There'll be less risk of toxoplasmosis as well - owners that can't be bothered to train their dogs properly probably don't pick up their turds either.
So I'm not against dogs off leads per-se. Just not where they're not supposed to be.
Still, I do think Rick would be better off managing his fears and therefore recognising a dog that is actually just being friendly.
As I said upthread, I have been to many countries where they are a serious problem, and I really didn't like it, but I can at least tell the difference between a dog playing and a dog on the verge of attack.
Control your children. It's not difficult. If it is, maybe don't have one. And if you can and let it happen anyway, realise that not everyone likes your child, and accept some people really hate them.
While I'm at it, clean up their f*cking sh!t properly.
Shout out to the woman who let her child with the runs sh!t in front of my house. She didn't have the last laugh however.0 -
Giving my daughter a bit of room to run around.First.Aspect said:
What are you doing hanging around parks anyway?rick_chasey said:
See above. Plenty of parks around but only this one (Which is also the smallest), has a dogs-on-a-lead rule.Stevo_666 said:
Go to a different part of the park, or a different park. That's what we do when we want to walk the dogs but want to avoid them being distracted by picnics/bbqs or people playing ball games. Unless you think you can single handedly deal with all of the people doing what you don't like...rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
So why should they break the rules and get away with it and leave me in the lurch? They have plenty of options. I do not.0 -
Exactly this. As much as it annoys me to see other people breaking rules, they usually already know they are doing it so aren't going to care about people telling them so. I have of an occasion (when it actually affects me) asked people not to use the bike path, which is exclusively for bikes, for walking/jogging. It doesn't matter how you put it, at worst you'll get a mouthful of abuse and, at best, they'll just ignore you. Didn't there used to be park wardens for exactly this sort of thing?TheBigBean said:
I ignore them unless it has a direct impact on me. You would, of course, argue that a dog off its lead has a direct impact on you.rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
Smokers annoy me though, so perhaps that is a comparable thing.
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That would appear to be Rick now. All he needs is a peaked cap.nickice said:
Didn't there used to be park wardens for exactly this sort of thing?TheBigBean said:
I ignore them unless it has a direct impact on me. You would, of course, argue that a dog off its lead has a direct impact on you.rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
Smokers annoy me though, so perhaps that is a comparable thing."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Haha. I do understand his frustration, though. However, he's openly admitted to being gobby so he needs to be careful.Stevo_666 said:
That would appear to be Rick now. All he needs is a peaked cap.nickice said:
Didn't there used to be park wardens for exactly this sort of thing?TheBigBean said:
I ignore them unless it has a direct impact on me. You would, of course, argue that a dog off its lead has a direct impact on you.rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
Smokers annoy me though, so perhaps that is a comparable thing.0 -
Keep her on a lead, for god's sake.rick_chasey said:
Giving my daughter a bit of room to run around.First.Aspect said:
What are you doing hanging around parks anyway?rick_chasey said:
See above. Plenty of parks around but only this one (Which is also the smallest), has a dogs-on-a-lead rule.Stevo_666 said:
Go to a different part of the park, or a different park. That's what we do when we want to walk the dogs but want to avoid them being distracted by picnics/bbqs or people playing ball games. Unless you think you can single handedly deal with all of the people doing what you don't like...rick_chasey said:
It's a common occurrence so I have tried various methods.TheBigBean said:
I'd say no. I would guess that Rick is considered forthright with his words in Dutch as wellrjsterry said:
Going back to Rick telling off the local dog walkers, is this not just a case of Rick's Dutch side coming to the fore (if you'll excuse the national stereotypes)?
What would you lot propose as the best option to deal with the rule breakers?
So why should they break the rules and get away with it and leave me in the lurch? They have plenty of options. I do not.0 -
Or teach her to bite people 😈1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
or dogsrjsterry said:Or teach her to bite people 😈
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And remember to shout out that she is just being friendly.kingstongraham said:
or dogsrjsterry said:Or teach her to bite people 😈
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Walk away and pretend not to have noticed if she squats in middle of the path.rjsterry said:
And remember to shout out that she is just being friendly.kingstongraham said:
or dogsrjsterry said:Or teach her to bite people 😈
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I wouldn't mind a Boston Dynamics Spot. Obedient, no mess to deal with won't bite anybody...1
