Seemingly trivial things that you give absolutely no f's about, but others go apeshít over.
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No idea mate.First.Aspect said:
What about that weird stuff the Norwegians drink, made of musk ox urine?*rick_chasey said:
Ja.Stevo_666 said:
Do you like whisky? (refer to the posts above)rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
Aren't many spirits I don't like.
(*Not completely sure what it is made of, but ours is never getting drunk).
I tend to stick to the staples.
TBH if you get any decent spirit, i.e. not the really cheap stuff, it'll be nice.
I got a rather nice mescal for my birthday and it's LOVELY.0 -
Akvavit. Tastes like armpit.rick_chasey said:
No idea mate.First.Aspect said:
What about that weird stuff the Norwegians drink, made of musk ox urine?*rick_chasey said:
Ja.Stevo_666 said:
Do you like whisky? (refer to the posts above)rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
Aren't many spirits I don't like.
(*Not completely sure what it is made of, but ours is never getting drunk).
I tend to stick to the staples.
TBH if you get any decent spirit, i.e. not the really cheap stuff, it'll be nice.
I got a rather nice mescal for my birthday and it's LOVELY.
There are also some "artisan" gins out there that would challenge anyone's taste.0 -
You think the Norwegians care what it tastes like?First.Aspect said:
Akvavit. Tastes like armpit.rick_chasey said:
No idea mate.First.Aspect said:
What about that weird stuff the Norwegians drink, made of musk ox urine?*rick_chasey said:
Ja.Stevo_666 said:
Do you like whisky? (refer to the posts above)rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
Aren't many spirits I don't like.
(*Not completely sure what it is made of, but ours is never getting drunk).
I tend to stick to the staples.
TBH if you get any decent spirit, i.e. not the really cheap stuff, it'll be nice.
I got a rather nice mescal for my birthday and it's LOVELY.
There are also some "artisan" gins out there that would challenge anyone's taste.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Oh man. I think we're over the worst of it, but the whole Gin thing will end up on talking heads programs in 20 years time as a weird thing people did in the naughties that no-one understands.First.Aspect said:
Akvavit. Tastes like armpit.rick_chasey said:
No idea mate.First.Aspect said:
What about that weird stuff the Norwegians drink, made of musk ox urine?*rick_chasey said:
Ja.Stevo_666 said:
Do you like whisky? (refer to the posts above)rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
Aren't many spirits I don't like.
(*Not completely sure what it is made of, but ours is never getting drunk).
I tend to stick to the staples.
TBH if you get any decent spirit, i.e. not the really cheap stuff, it'll be nice.
I got a rather nice mescal for my birthday and it's LOVELY.
There are also some "artisan" gins out there that would challenge anyone's taste.
There are some great gins out there and I am partial to a decent martini, but come on guys.0 -
Real ale has gone the same way. Top notes with hints of elderflower over bass notes of chocolate etc.. I drink real ale but can't say I ever think about the flavour over and above do I like it or not. I'm not sure why everything has gone down the wine tasting route of pretentiousness.shortfall said:As above, never really seen the appeal of bourbon which just tastes like bland whiskey with sugar in it to me. Rye I've found to be the opposite, quite harsh but still lacking in flavour. Of all the Scotch I've tried Talisker 10 year old takes some beating but I'm partial to a Speyside and the 17 quid stuff at Aldi is right up there for me. Back to the thread, I read the tasting notes on Masters of Malt and I wonder what the f.uck theyre on. "Liquorice, a pinch of salt and some seaweed give way to cardamom and black pepper". Er, ok if you say so.......
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I blame Jilly Goolden for starting this ridiculous one-upmanship in tasting descriptions.shortfall said:As above, never really seen the appeal of bourbon which just tastes like bland whiskey with sugar in it to me. Rye I've found to be the opposite, quite harsh but still lacking in flavour. Of all the Scotch I've tried Talisker 10 year old takes some beating but I'm partial to a Speyside and the 17 quid stuff at Aldi is right up there for me. Back to the thread, I read the tasting notes on Masters of Malt and I wonder what the f.uck theyre on. "Liquorice, a pinch of salt and some seaweed give way to cardamom and black pepper". Er, ok if you say so.......
I know what I like, so rarely venture beyond the star rating.
On a side note, if it's Irish, I am rather fond of Slane Whiskey."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Well, we needn't keep guessing what the Apprentice candidates will have been up to this year.rick_chasey said:
Oh man. I think we're over the worst of it, but the whole Gin thing will end up on talking heads programs in 20 years time as a weird thing people did in the naughties that no-one understands.First.Aspect said:
Akvavit. Tastes like armpit.rick_chasey said:
No idea mate.First.Aspect said:
What about that weird stuff the Norwegians drink, made of musk ox urine?*rick_chasey said:
Ja.Stevo_666 said:
Do you like whisky? (refer to the posts above)rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
Aren't many spirits I don't like.
(*Not completely sure what it is made of, but ours is never getting drunk).
I tend to stick to the staples.
TBH if you get any decent spirit, i.e. not the really cheap stuff, it'll be nice.
I got a rather nice mescal for my birthday and it's LOVELY.
There are also some "artisan" gins out there that would challenge anyone's taste.
There are some great gins out there and I am partial to a decent martini, but come on guys.
Hendrick's Gin | Premium Scottish Gin Infused with Cucumber ...www.hendricksgin.com
Meet the delightfully peculiar Hendrick's Gin - a most unusual premium gin distilled in Scotland with curious, yet marvellous, infusions of cucumber & rose."0 -
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.0 -
Surely not an either/or. The really daft one is people who claim they like the taste of cigarettes.nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
To be fair, I won't countenance either alcohol free beer or decaffeinated coffee so there is likely something in that. I do like the taste though.nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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Nonsense.nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
I’d drink a lot more whisky if it wouldn’t get me smashed.0 -
I'm rather partial to Ardbeg single malt.
The gin phenomenon leaves me scratching my head.Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0 -
I completely disagree with this. If non-alcoholic beer tasted the same as the proper stuff, then I'd drink it as a preference. But the alcohol gives beer a kind of thickness, and really rounds the flavour (if you're not drinking some sh1te like Budweiser).nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.Ben
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mr_goo likes Ardbeg single malt.nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
You wouldn't drink that for effect: that's all about the taste, which is acquired.
Plus it's expensive these days."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Ben6899 said:
I completely disagree with this. If non-alcoholic beer tasted the same as the proper stuff, then I'd drink it as a preference. But the alcohol gives beer a kind of thickness, and really rounds the flavour (if you're not drinking some sh1te like Budweiser).nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
Absolutely. Having had about 10 years off alcohol, there's nothing out there to match the complexity of a really good beer or especially a good red wine. I've no idea why that should rely (as it appears to) on the inherent alcohol of these drinks.0 -
You see I've never really bought the idea of an acquired taste either. It seems to happen with substances that contain drugs like caffeine or alcohol. People might think they like the taste but what they actually like is the effect of the alcohol.blazing_saddles said:
mr_goo likes Ardbeg single malt.nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
You wouldn't drink that for effect: that's all about the taste, which is acquired.
Plus it's expensive these days.0 -
That's the alcohol and the endorphins (NB not a neuroscientist) that are released when you drink.Ben6899 said:
I completely disagree with this. If non-alcoholic beer tasted the same as the proper stuff, then I'd drink it as a preference. But the alcohol gives beer a kind of thickness, and really rounds the flavour (if you're not drinking some sh1te like Budweiser).nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.0 -
It's the same principle. All these things are addictive substances so we come to associate the taste with the substance.rjsterry said:
Surely not an either/or. The really daft one is people who claim they like the taste of cigarettes.nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
I don't think I've ever met anyone who enjoyed their first drink (though there is a reason alcopops were marketed), cigarette or cup of coffee. Haven't you noticed that a lot of people start by taking sugar in their tea and coffee until they develop dependency.0 -
It's not. If you've never tasted a complex vintage red wine that's like a symphony unfolding on your taste buds with each taste, then that's your loss.nickice said:
That's the alcohol and the endorphins (NB not a neuroscientist) that are released when you drink.Ben6899 said:
I completely disagree with this. If non-alcoholic beer tasted the same as the proper stuff, then I'd drink it as a preference. But the alcohol gives beer a kind of thickness, and really rounds the flavour (if you're not drinking some sh1te like Budweiser).nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.0 -
I think I can deal with that. What do you think a person who's never drunk alcohol would think of that wine? Most likely that it tastes like fruit juice that's gone off (which, although, simplistic) is what alcohol is. I like wine and I like beer but I'm not deluded (not meant as a personal dig) enough to think it's not really about the effect. There are better or worse ways to deliver alcohol to your system, of course.briantrumpet said:
It's not. If you've never tasted a complex vintage red wine that's like a symphony unfolding on your taste buds with each taste, then that's your loss.nickice said:
That's the alcohol and the endorphins (NB not a neuroscientist) that are released when you drink.Ben6899 said:
I completely disagree with this. If non-alcoholic beer tasted the same as the proper stuff, then I'd drink it as a preference. But the alcohol gives beer a kind of thickness, and really rounds the flavour (if you're not drinking some sh1te like Budweiser).nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.0 -
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Oh! That's not true. I detested coffee, which was usually Nescafe.nickice said:I don't think I've ever met anyone who enjoyed their first drink (though there is a reason alcopops were marketed), cigarette or cup of coffee.
Then on a business trip to Milan we stopped at a services after being picked up at the airport for a break and I was given an espresso. That one cup completely changed my view on coffee, and I view it as my first cup of (real) coffee.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
nickice said:
I think I can deal with that. What do you think a person who's never drunk alcohol would think of that wine? Most likely that it tastes like fruit juice that's gone off (which, although, simplistic) is what alcohol is. I like wine and I like beer but I'm not deluded (not meant as a personal dig) enough to think it's not really about the effect. There are better or worse ways to deliver alcohol to your system, of course.briantrumpet said:
It's not. If you've never tasted a complex vintage red wine that's like a symphony unfolding on your taste buds with each taste, then that's your loss.nickice said:
That's the alcohol and the endorphins (NB not a neuroscientist) that are released when you drink.Ben6899 said:
I completely disagree with this. If non-alcoholic beer tasted the same as the proper stuff, then I'd drink it as a preference. But the alcohol gives beer a kind of thickness, and really rounds the flavour (if you're not drinking some sh1te like Budweiser).nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
In my experience, often the things that appeal instantly are the things that are one-dimensional; the things that don't reveal themselves on first taste/hearing, often because they are complex, are the things that are the most satisfying in the long term.
If you just like the simple things, fine - but to discount the world of complex flavours in good wine as "fruit juice that's gone off" is rather like dismissing Bach as "Vivaldi that's gone off". I'm fine with people who enjoy Vivaldi and not Bach, but generally they tend not to claim that their limited palate has a scientific basis.0 -
I think that's just children not liking bitter flavours. They don't like dark chocolate either. I think the idea that tea is generally unpalatable and people only drink it for the tiny amount of caffeine is a bit of stretch.nickice said:
It's the same principle. All these things are addictive substances so we come to associate the taste with the substance.rjsterry said:
Surely not an either/or. The really daft one is people who claim they like the taste of cigarettes.nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
I don't think I've ever met anyone who enjoyed their first drink (though there is a reason alcopops were marketed), cigarette or cup of coffee. Haven't you noticed that a lot of people start by taking sugar in their tea and coffee until they develop dependency.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Oh that is so true on so many levels. I remember recording my weekly new record (This was back in the daybriantrumpet said:
In my experience, often the things that appeal instantly are the things that are one-dimensional; the things that don't reveal themselves on first taste/hearing, often because they are complex, are the things that are the most satisfying in the long term.
) to C90 and playing it back to back in my car on my commute for a week.
It became obvious after while that I went off the records I liked on Monday morning while I still listen to the records today that I wasn't sure of on the Monday.
I am aware that perspective just doesn't fit well today. I find it sad. People are missing so much by dismissing after a single listen/view/taste.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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“Nothing in the world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty… I have never in my life envied a human being who led an easy life. I have envied a great many people who led difficult lives and led them well.”0 -
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Why does having a drink have to be a difficult complex experience?
I could no doubt get a complexity of flavours drinking water from the ditches I pass on my rides, and if I did it often enough, I'm sure I could "acquire the taste" for it. But I'm not going to.
I appreciate the difference between Bach and Vivaldi, I like them both, but neither of them kill my brain cells.
I like a glass of wine or cider occasionally, but my life seems to have got better since massively reducing my alcohol intake.2 -
Actually, the video I posted is of adults trying alcohol for the first time. If tea is so great then why do we add milk (and often sugar) to it? And the amount of caffeine in tea is not negligible. The caffeine gives you a kick and you come to associate that with the taste. I like tea and coffee and I like alcohol (though I drink much less than when I was younger) but I know they're all addictive.rjsterry said:
I think that's just children not liking bitter flavours. They don't like dark chocolate either. I think the idea that tea is generally unpalatable and people only drink it for the tiny amount of caffeine is a bit of stretch.nickice said:
It's the same principle. All these things are addictive substances so we come to associate the taste with the substance.rjsterry said:
Surely not an either/or. The really daft one is people who claim they like the taste of cigarettes.nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
I don't think I've ever met anyone who enjoyed their first drink (though there is a reason alcopops were marketed), cigarette or cup of coffee. Haven't you noticed that a lot of people start by taking sugar in their tea and coffee until they develop dependency.0 -
Music isn't, basically, a poison. I'm not disputing the fact that some wines taste better than others but what I am saying is that alcohol basically tastes horrible and the rest is just trying to make the alcohol palatable. I think the science behind what alcohol does is pretty clear.briantrumpet said:nickice said:
I think I can deal with that. What do you think a person who's never drunk alcohol would think of that wine? Most likely that it tastes like fruit juice that's gone off (which, although, simplistic) is what alcohol is. I like wine and I like beer but I'm not deluded (not meant as a personal dig) enough to think it's not really about the effect. There are better or worse ways to deliver alcohol to your system, of course.briantrumpet said:
It's not. If you've never tasted a complex vintage red wine that's like a symphony unfolding on your taste buds with each taste, then that's your loss.nickice said:
That's the alcohol and the endorphins (NB not a neuroscientist) that are released when you drink.Ben6899 said:
I completely disagree with this. If non-alcoholic beer tasted the same as the proper stuff, then I'd drink it as a preference. But the alcohol gives beer a kind of thickness, and really rounds the flavour (if you're not drinking some sh1te like Budweiser).nickice said:
It still amazes me that people think they're drinking alcohol for the taste and not the effect. Yes you can enjoy certain drinks but without the effect people would only ever drink the ones where you can't taste the alcohol.rick_chasey said:
Ahaha you softie.nickice said:
As does alcohol. I don't think anyone ever thought their first coffee or pint of lager tasted amazing. Much is done to actually disguise the taste (especially with alcohol)TheBigBean said:
Coffee tastes bad. The world has deluded itself.rick_chasey said:
Oh mate.Stevo_666 said:
I'm in the 'can't be too fussed about coffee' camp. Have a cup it two of instant with milk every day. .
Appalling behaviour.
There's not being fussed about coffee and there's outing yourself as someone with appalling taste.
Booze changes the flavour make up of drinks to highlight different flavours over others. It acts like a solvent for smells and flavours.
In my experience, often the things that appeal instantly are the things that are one-dimensional; the things that don't reveal themselves on first taste/hearing, often because they are complex, are the things that are the most satisfying in the long term.
If you just like the simple things, fine - but to discount the world of complex flavours in good wine as "fruit juice that's gone off" is rather like dismissing Bach as "Vivaldi that's gone off". I'm fine with people who enjoy Vivaldi and not Bach, but generally they tend not to claim that their limited palate has a scientific basis.0
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