New UCI calendar
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It's hard to judge from a few front on photos. Did Matthews put an elbow / shoulder into him as he was about to pass him? I think we all know that many sprinters take terrible lines and close gaps when they shouldn't.rick_chasey said:0 -
Hard to argue with that.rick_chasey said:It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
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kingstongraham said:
Not convinced it's the same.
It's clearly not the same, but you know how Rick likes tweets that line up with his thinking..."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I thought we were all for punishing riders who don’t sprint in a line parallel to the barriers and leave it up to other riders to stop pedalling in order to avoid a crash?0
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Differentiated sanctions.rick_chasey said:I thought we were all for punishing riders who don’t sprint in a line parallel to the barriers and leave it up to other riders to stop pedalling in order to avoid a crash?
You are just being silly now.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
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But as pointed out above, the actions were totally different.rick_chasey said:If you’re gonna do it you need to do it base on the action and not the result, surely?
Even though the guy who posted that video did the best to hide the reason.
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Anyhow, I thought that with 3 days to go before the Dauphine, a quick look at the starting line ups might be a good idea.
Team INEOS
141 FROOME Chris
142 BERNAL Egan
143 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan
144 KWIATKOWSKI Michał
145 SIVAKOV Pavel
146 THOMAS Geraint
147 VAN BAARLE Dylan
Team LOTTO-JUMBO
151 DUMOULIN Tom
152 GESINK Robert
153 KRUIJSWIJK Steven
154 KUSS Sepp
155 MARTIN Tony
156 ROGLIČ Primož
157 VAN AERT Wout
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I agree, but find it weird to then have signed Rohan Dennis.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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Ah right. I forgot. Always thought that was weird scheduling.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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Going back to the topic of sprints and rider positioning/ moving, had a thought over the weekend, why don't the uci insist that lanes have to be marked for the final 250m? Watch any sprint an the rider is always looking at the ground, so can naturally veer without realising (obviously in some cases they do it deliberately to impede others). The lines would act as indicators to help them keep a straight line and would make it pretty obvious when an unfair move has been made.0
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All this talk of more paint on the finishes, I'm assuming it never rains on sprints?Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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For the hard shoulder, it doesn't matter as they shouldn't cross it.No_Ta_Doctor said:All this talk of more paint on the finishes, I'm assuming it never rains on sprints?
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A line is not a full road width advertisement and needs only minimal paint.No_Ta_Doctor said:All this talk of more paint on the finishes, I'm assuming it never rains on sprints?
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Exactly.rick_chasey said:I think he means in terms of slipperiness.
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You can get high friction road paint to solve that problem.
Plus the lines would define lanes, with the aim of keeping riders on one line (position wise, not the actual line on the road), within the lane. So even if wet, the line shouldn't be an issue.
Got to be worth a try.0 -
Not sure if you study many road books, but I will make the point again, as others seem to be ignoring it.redvision said:You can get high friction road paint to solve that problem.
Plus the lines would define lanes, with the aim of keeping riders on one line (position wise, not the actual line on the road), within the lane. So even if wet, the line shouldn't be an issue.
Got to be worth a try.
Some sprint finishes take place on roads no more than 6-7 metres wide.
Not really feasible to nick a metre and a half to put a border up both sides."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I'm not suggesting that.blazing_saddles said:
Not sure if you study many road books, but I will make the point again, as others seem to be ignoring it.redvision said:You can get high friction road paint to solve that problem.
Plus the lines would define lanes, with the aim of keeping riders on one line (position wise, not the actual line on the road), within the lane. So even if wet, the line shouldn't be an issue.
Got to be worth a try.
Some sprint finishes take place on roads no more than 6-7 metres wide.
Not really feasible to nick a metre and a half to put a border up both sides.
The barriers at either side will still be in place. All I'm suggesting is that on the road itself there are lanes marked - like an athletics track, so that when a rider is sprinting (and inevitably looking at the ground rather than ahead) he can see markers to help keep a straight line and possibly prevent obstructing or colliding with another.
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If those finishes are safe enough without it, then an exception could be made, surely? If they aren't, then, so be it.blazing_saddles said:
Not sure if you study many road books, but I will make the point again, as others seem to be ignoring it.redvision said:You can get high friction road paint to solve that problem.
Plus the lines would define lanes, with the aim of keeping riders on one line (position wise, not the actual line on the road), within the lane. So even if wet, the line shouldn't be an issue.
Got to be worth a try.
Some sprint finishes take place on roads no more than 6-7 metres wide.
Not really feasible to nick a metre and a half to put a border up both sides.0 -
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Absolutely.rick_chasey said:TBH I'd do a lot more focusing on the barriers and what is immediately behind them.
It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
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What's wrong with making some finishes safer?blazing_saddles said:
Not sure if you study many road books, but I will make the point again, as others seem to be ignoring it.redvision said:You can get high friction road paint to solve that problem.
Plus the lines would define lanes, with the aim of keeping riders on one line (position wise, not the actual line on the road), within the lane. So even if wet, the line shouldn't be an issue.
Got to be worth a try.
Some sprint finishes take place on roads no more than 6-7 metres wide.
Not really feasible to nick a metre and a half to put a border up both sides.0 -
I not sure I get the logic.kingstongraham said:
If those finishes are safe enough without it, then an exception could be made, surely? If they aren't, then, so be it.blazing_saddles said:
Not sure if you study many road books, but I will make the point again, as others seem to be ignoring it.redvision said:You can get high friction road paint to solve that problem.
Plus the lines would define lanes, with the aim of keeping riders on one line (position wise, not the actual line on the road), within the lane. So even if wet, the line shouldn't be an issue.
Got to be worth a try.
Some sprint finishes take place on roads no more than 6-7 metres wide.
Not really feasible to nick a metre and a half to put a border up both sides.
Are you saying that if 6 metres is considered safe, then 4.5 metres should be considered safe, too?
While a cote'd'azur should make the barrier proximity safer, compressing a sprint increases the chances of a crash in the middle of the bunch."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
No, I'm saying that if those finishes are safe at 6m wide with the suspension of a (theoretical, future) hard shoulder rule at the speeds expected, then fine. If they aren't deemed safe without, and 4.5m isn't a safe width, then the logic says that isn't a safe place to have that finish.blazing_saddles said:
I not sure I get the logic.kingstongraham said:
If those finishes are safe enough without it, then an exception could be made, surely? If they aren't, then, so be it.blazing_saddles said:
Not sure if you study many road books, but I will make the point again, as others seem to be ignoring it.redvision said:You can get high friction road paint to solve that problem.
Plus the lines would define lanes, with the aim of keeping riders on one line (position wise, not the actual line on the road), within the lane. So even if wet, the line shouldn't be an issue.
Got to be worth a try.
Some sprint finishes take place on roads no more than 6-7 metres wide.
Not really feasible to nick a metre and a half to put a border up both sides.
Are you saying that if 6 metres is considered safe, then 4.5 metres should be considered safe, too?
While a cote'd'azur should make the barrier proximity safer, compressing a sprint increases the chances of a crash in the middle of the bunch.0
