Milan - San Remo and the Giro to be Cancelled?

blazing_saddles
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edited February 2020 in Pro race
Both Pro 14 matches in Italy next weekend have already been postponed, as sporting bodies react to the spread of Coronavirus as the fear of a pandemic grows and Italy having reported a fourth death.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/giro-ditalia/milan-san-remo-tirreno-adriatico-and-giro-ditalia-all-under-threat-after-italy-coronavirus-outbreak-449873
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,546
    edited February 2020
    Sure we could put together a route over here to replace MSR, say from Birmingham to Bournemouth!

    Cancellation of those races would leave a gaping hole in race schedules.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,094
    Well must admit I wasn't expecting that.
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  • joe_totale-2
    joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    Given that many bike components are made in China I wonder if there'll be an impact on availability of bikes or certain components as I imagine that factories in the affected areas have been closed.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It would be such a shame.
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  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Sure we could put together a route over here to replace MSR, say from Birmingham to Bournemouth!

    Stranger things happen:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/51615062
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Sure we could put together a route over here to replace MSR, say from Birmingham to Bournemouth!

    Cancellation of those races would leave a gaping hole in race schedules.

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,095
    Mauro Vegni says: “If the government stops sporting events in Milan and Lombardy, we will have to cancel [Milano-Sanremo], it makes no sense to move the start 20 or 50 kilometers. The course has been the way it is for 110 years.” ( from https://cyclingtips.com/2020/02/milano-sanremo-other-italian-races-at-risk-of-cancellation-due-to-coronavirus/ )

    They all got on a bus for a bit in the middle a few years ago, so I don't understand his logic. Better to change it than abandon the race if that's an option, surely.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    kingstongraham said:

    Mauro Vegni says: “If the government stops sporting events in Milan and Lombardy, we will have to cancel [Milano-Sanremo], it makes no sense to move the start 20 or 50 kilometers. The course has been the way it is for 110 years.” ( from https://cyclingtips.com/2020/02/milano-sanremo-other-italian-races-at-risk-of-cancellation-due-to-coronavirus/ )

    They all got on a bus for a bit in the middle a few years ago, so I don't understand his logic. Better to change it than abandon the race if that's an option, surely.


    There's other more practical considerations such has hotel rooms, travel to the race via airports etc. There's a bit more to it than painting a line on the road. It's better to run it in the autumn.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,095
    RichN95. said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Mauro Vegni says: “If the government stops sporting events in Milan and Lombardy, we will have to cancel [Milano-Sanremo], it makes no sense to move the start 20 or 50 kilometers. The course has been the way it is for 110 years.” ( from https://cyclingtips.com/2020/02/milano-sanremo-other-italian-races-at-risk-of-cancellation-due-to-coronavirus/ )

    They all got on a bus for a bit in the middle a few years ago, so I don't understand his logic. Better to change it than abandon the race if that's an option, surely.


    There's other more practical considerations such has hotel rooms, travel to the race via airports etc. There's a bit more to it than painting a line on the road. It's better to run it in the autumn.
    That's fair. I can't see things getting much calmer in the next couple of weeks.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,289
    kingstongraham said:

    RichN95. said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Mauro Vegni says: “If the government stops sporting events in Milan and Lombardy, we will have to cancel [Milano-Sanremo], it makes no sense to move the start 20 or 50 kilometers. The course has been the way it is for 110 years.” ( from https://cyclingtips.com/2020/02/milano-sanremo-other-italian-races-at-risk-of-cancellation-due-to-coronavirus/ )

    They all got on a bus for a bit in the middle a few years ago, so I don't understand his logic. Better to change it than abandon the race if that's an option, surely.


    There's other more practical considerations such has hotel rooms, travel to the race via airports etc. There's a bit more to it than painting a line on the road. It's better to run it in the autumn.
    That's fair. I can't see things getting much calmer in the next couple of weeks.
    The alternative is that the virus spreads and everything gets cancelled.
    Not an enticing prospect (including holidays) but a possibility.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461
    Finally booked to go to Garda and a couple of days in Venice after intending to do it for the past few years so really hoping it gets controlled soon.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,907
    edited February 2020
    I hope the quarantines work I think sport cancellations may not be the worst thing to happen this year.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    They won’t run it in autumn. If it doesn’t happen it won’t happen for 2020
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    rick_chasey said:

    They won’t run it in autumn. If it doesn’t happen it won’t happen for 2020


    Why not? They've got other Italian races going on at that time. A little shuffling and it can go ahead.
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  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    Is Tirreno under threat do we know?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95. said:

    rick_chasey said:

    They won’t run it in autumn. If it doesn’t happen it won’t happen for 2020


    Why not? They've got other Italian races going on at that time. A little shuffling and it can go ahead.
    It's a total faff. They won't do it (and the RCS said as much).
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,546
    jimmythecuckoo said:

    Is Tirreno under threat do we know?

    I believe so.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    edited February 2020
    Dorset_Boy said:

    jimmythecuckoo said:

    Is Tirreno under threat do we know?

    I believe so.

    It takes place below the Pisa-Florence-San Marino line that the Foreign office say is OK, but I imagine a lot of teams may pull out even if it goes ahead.
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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    edited February 2020
    imagine of one person on the team, rider or support staff get ill, the whole team would be quarantined. good job the warmer weather is coming, it might help curb the spread.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,596
    This virus is less contagious than flu and only slightly more deadly. Over the past couple of months flu will have killed far more people globally than this virus has. If it had originated in the west no one would think anything of it.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    gsk82 said:

    This virus is less contagious than flu and only slightly more deadly. Over the past couple of months flu will have killed far more people globally than this virus has. If it had originated in the west no one would think anything of it.

    What nonsense are you talking now?

    It's much more deadly (roughly 20x according to infection vs death rates) and much more contagious if you look at how many people one infected person can transmit to.

    Plus, we have a known vaccine for the flu and we don't for coronavirus, plus we understand what flu is and how it works but there is no understanding nor any assurance that corona virus won't mutate further.

    Stop talking nonsense.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/science-and-technology/2020/02/how-coronavirus-compares-flu-ebola-and-other-major-outbreaks

    (Watching the 2011 fillum Contagion is also interesting edutainment)
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,877
    I posted a stats based criticism to gsk82's comment, but it was deemed to require moderation.

  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    TheBigBean said:

    I posted a stats based criticism to gsk82's comment, but it was deemed to require moderation.

    Lots of links perhaps? Not really sure what the post quarantine rules are...
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,877
    bobmcstuff said:

    TheBigBean said:

    I posted a stats based criticism to gsk82's comment, but it was deemed to require moderation.

    Lots of links perhaps? Not really sure what the post quarantine rules are...
    Who knows. It showed in that in 9% of "closed cases" death was the outcome. 19% of active cases are considered "serious or critical". That excludes all the cases that were sufficiently mild they were never reported though.
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    So in the last 48 hours Covid 19 has been transmitted from Italy to Croatia and Austria and from Iran to Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain. It has also popped up in Sicily today.

    So I wouldn't expect any mass public events planned in the next 30 days in Northern Italy (or even Italy as a whole) to go ahead.
  • Longshot
    Longshot Posts: 940
    mrfpb said:

    So I wouldn't expect any mass public events planned in the next 30 days in Northern Italy (or even Italy as a whole) to go ahead.

    I'm due Italy in a few weeks - they need to get their backsides in gear and cure this thing.

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ddraver said:

    https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/science-and-technology/2020/02/how-coronavirus-compares-flu-ebola-and-other-major-outbreaks

    (Watching the 2011 fillum Contagion is also interesting edutainment)

    Film spoiler.

    I've got to say from what I remember, the entire climax of that film is a bit rubbish; the doctor touches her eye absentmindedly and now she's going to die too. Not necessarily great on screen.
    _
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    and now its in the ineos cyclic island tenarife https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51627597
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,289
    IIRC there is company in the UK researching treatment who think they may have a solution by July.
    If so, there is going to be a lot more grief before relief.
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