TDF 2019, Stage 14: Tarbes > Tourmalet Barèges 20/07/2019 - 117,5 km *Spoilers*

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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Just finished the highlights.

    Eyebrows even further raised than yesterday.

    Unless Alaphillippe has a big crack later on, I call shenanigans.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    edited July 2019
    heros of the day were the parade of super climbing domestiques including the Movistar stalwarts. soler spewed his lungs out.

    Goudu, de plus Bennett Amador. it's rare to see that pressure kept on for that length... usually a controlling team rides within itself at tempo unless attacking. what happened here is we had teams tag-teaming all the way up. the pauses were very slight between swapping roles. when Movistar dropped themselves (lol). Ineos took up a very "within themselves" pace which was swamped by other teams almost immediately. it didn't relent
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
    edited July 2019
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Yet another stage that Alaphilippe reckons he pushed to the limit.
    Not sure who's limit he's talking about. :P
    Also said he maybe could have won the stage, but was happy for Pinot.

    Thomas, on the other hand, said he "felt weak".

    It’s not a climb that suits him, so wouldn’t rule in out yet but not looking great.

    ...Thing is though...

    He's 25. We don't really know what sort of rider he is yet.

    What were the last...oh...7 (!?!) TdF winners winning when they were 25?

    I havent looked but I'm assuming Cuddles was still an MTBer then...

    Edit - Forgot about Nibbles, 6/7 TdF winners then...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    ddraver wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Yet another stage that Alaphilippe reckons he pushed to the limit.
    Not sure who's limit he's talking about. :P
    Also said he maybe could have won the stage, but was happy for Pinot.

    Thomas, on the other hand, said he "felt weak".

    It’s not a climb that suits him, so wouldn’t rule in out yet but not looking great.

    ...Thing is though...

    He's 25. We don't really know what sort of rider he is yet.

    What were the last...oh...7 (!?!) TdF winners winning when they were 25?

    I havent looked but I'm assuming Cuddles was still an MTBer then...

    Is very important to remember to take his age into account.. I forget just how young he still is
  • Wayne Plunger
    Wayne Plunger Posts: 444
    Cofidis do anything?
  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    Wayne Plunger wrote:
    Cofidis do anything?

    Were they supposed to?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    ddraver wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Yet another stage that Alaphilippe reckons he pushed to the limit.
    Not sure who's limit he's talking about. :P
    Also said he maybe could have won the stage, but was happy for Pinot.

    Thomas, on the other hand, said he "felt weak".

    It’s not a climb that suits him, so wouldn’t rule in out yet but not looking great.

    ...Thing is though...

    He's 25. We don't really know what sort of rider he is yet.

    What were the last...oh...7 (!?!) TdF winners winning when they were 25?

    I havent looked but I'm assuming Cuddles was still an MTBer then...

    My bad I meant Thomas.
    _
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
    Ah sorry, I was just looking for a vaguely topical post to quote to make my point ;)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • the article don
    the article don Posts: 578
    Out of curiosity, what drug is it people think Alaphilippe is taking?

    And well done Peanut
    Giant Trance X 2010
    Specialized Tricross Sport
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  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    I think Mr Thomas now regrets all them post tour drinks last year
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    the article don wrote:
    Out of curiosity, what drug is it people think Alaphilippe is taking?

    And well done Peanut
    whatever Froome takes but x100 :evil:
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    At least the humour is still intact.

    https://twitter.com/GeraintThomas86/sta ... 0159611905
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    the article don wrote:
    Out of curiosity, what drug is it people think Alaphilippe is taking?

    And well done Peanut

    Duh, it's that new drug that only cycling teams know about of course. They are well ahead of the testers and medical professionals, didn't you know? 'Big Pharma' invests billions in R+D to help cheating in a minor sport just like it's a hot bed for companies researching tiny but powerful electric motors.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    the article don wrote:
    Out of curiosity, what drug is it people think Alaphilippe is taking?

    And well done Peanut

    ketone esters...but they are all doing that (or some) and its not banned.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • PhilipPirrip
    PhilipPirrip Posts: 616
    the article don wrote:
    Out of curiosity, what drug is it people think Alaphilippe is taking?

    And well done Peanut
    This story was published the other day;

    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/raci ... ton-431194
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    i thought it was an amazing mountain top stage with the racing at the back for km after km.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,576
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Shout out to De Plus for an outstanding ride.

    Better then then Bernal on the Alp last year...

    You think? Bernal rode for what, 6 or 7 kms and reduced the group to 6 or 7 riders. De Plus did at most 2 kms, and reduced the group to 10 riders.
  • Wayne Plunger
    Wayne Plunger Posts: 444
    ShutupJens wrote:
    Wayne Plunger wrote:
    Cofidis do anything?

    Were they supposed to?

    Do they ever?
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Shout out to De Plus for an outstanding ride.

    Better then then Bernal on the Alp last year...
    think you are struggling to remember the Bernal ride
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    the article don wrote:
    Out of curiosity, what drug is it people think Alaphilippe is taking?

    And well done Peanut

    the same as sky were when they won everything - you know, marginal gains: taking their own mattresses to races, washing their hands all the time, the chefs using lots of aubergines.

    or perhaps its just alaphilippe's year because he's worked damn hard over the past few years for it and Ineos are cracking apart as these are wont to.

    #skyfanhypocrits
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Boring fact, quick step have been bringing matrasses to races for over a decade, given they were sponsored by Innergetic / Latexco.
    _
  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958
    For me this tour has all the hallmarks of last year's giro.
    Froome written off by the second week, but sky had been riding to peak in week 3.

    I can see it happening again, only with G not froome of course.
    Alaphilippe may look strong now, but so did Yates last year.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Oh well we'd had a quite a few stages before the drug talk started in earnest this year...
    Correlation is not causation.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited July 2019
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Oh well we'd had a quite a few stages before the drug talk started in earnest this year...

    The fish started it, honest.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-oTXGIvIWNB9NNnM4Ze8gpUAutyT39BPsKyAb0rL1feGkZ-ulCw
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    finding-dory.jpg
    Correlation is not causation.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    18loubqbk2i8ujpg.jpg
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    the article don wrote:
    Out of curiosity, what drug is it people think Alaphilippe is taking?

    And well done Peanut

    the same as sky were when they won everything - you know, marginal gains: taking their own mattresses to races, washing their hands all the time, the chefs using lots of aubergines.

    or perhaps its just alaphilippe's year because he's worked damn hard over the past few years for it and Ineos are cracking apart as these are wont to.

    #skyfanhypocrits

    Hello, sailor
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    edited July 2019
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    the article don wrote:
    Out of curiosity, what drug is it people think Alaphilippe is taking?

    And well done Peanut

    the same as sky were when they won everything - you know, marginal gains: taking their own mattresses to races, washing their hands all the time, the chefs using lots of aubergines.

    or perhaps its just alaphilippe's year because he's worked damn hard over the past few years for it and Ineos are cracking apart as these are wont to.

    #skyfanhypocrits

    Hello, sailor

    Ciao! how ya doin'? All good?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Bumo_b
    Bumo_b Posts: 211
    Question is do I cash out on my bet on Jules A now and keep a tidy profit or risk it till the end? He was on the limit today, but they all were.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Quick Step's chef preparing some strawberries for Julian Alun Phillip's breakfast.

    93fc1e46dc934ae04d9da4167915a5f6.jpg

    :P :lol: :P :lol:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.

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