TDF 2019, Stage 14: Tarbes > Tourmalet Barèges 20/07/2019 - 117,5 km *Spoilers*

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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Looking forward to the finale of this year's tour when it turns out the conspiracy theorists were right, there was no crash, and Alaphilippe rips off his mask to reveal he was Chris Froome all along.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    I'd like to know what's up with Kwiatkowski.
    That wasn't a day to have off and to get dropped so early....
    Possibly rested him for tomorrow. He was only ever going to get halfway up the Tourmalet. But more likely off form.
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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,127
    Pinot a bit surprised to see Ala at the finish. Seems to think he can outride him in the mts
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    If this had a normal level of TT kms this race would be mega interesting.

    Kruijswijk though. Woof.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    edited July 2019
    Pross wrote:
    A few teams must be regretting letting Alaphillipe of the leash on that stage where he first gained time. They obviously didn't expect him to hold the jersey by this stage.

    ITV seem to be writing Thomas off and talking about it possibly being Alaphillipe v Pinot for yellow and even whether Bernal should become their leader yet Thomas is still in second place.
    thomas could still win

    stay consistent/improve a bit. and alaphillipe cracks...which looks possible... he nearly let the wheels go at one point. he could do a simon yates.

    even he doesn't know does he?

    if alaphillipe cracks thomas inherits as long as he doesn't haemorrhage time to pinot.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    the fact is we dont know.

    its a great race.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • alanparsons
    alanparsons Posts: 529
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    I'd like to know what's up with Kwiatkowski.
    That wasn't a day to have off and to get dropped so early....

    Maybe he just blew up!
    Maybe Ineos were thinking he wouldn't be needed?
    Either way Ineos are not the same team without Froome, G benefited from their dominance last year when CF had his early crash. This year they haven't got the depth and G is not a rider who the others fear.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Pross wrote:
    A few teams must be regretting letting Alaphillipe of the leash on that stage where he first gained time. They obviously didn't expect him to hold the jersey by this stage.

    ITV seem to be writing Thomas off and talking about it possibly being Alaphillipe v Pinot for yellow and even whether Bernal should become their leader yet Thomas is still in second place.
    I’m starting to think Kruijswijk is going to win.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
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  • john1967
    john1967 Posts: 366
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    RichN95 wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    A few teams must be regretting letting Alaphillipe of the leash on that stage where he first gained time. They obviously didn't expect him to hold the jersey by this stage.

    ITV seem to be writing Thomas off and talking about it possibly being Alaphillipe v Pinot for yellow and even whether Bernal should become their leader yet Thomas is still in second place.
    I’m starting to think Kruijswijk is going to win.

    thats not impossible either
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    alanparsons wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    I'd like to know what's up with Kwiatkowski.
    That wasn't a day to have off and to get dropped so early....

    Maybe he just blew up!
    Maybe Ineos were thinking he wouldn't be needed?
    Either way Ineos are not the same team without Froome, G benefited from their dominance last year when CF had his early crash. This year they haven't got the depth and G is not a rider who the others fear.

    This is interesting, because Thomas won last year when Froome was still a threat and a very real contender all the way until that final mountain stage...
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.

    he was never mediocre. maybe unexpected to step up.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • richard_t._biscuit
    richard_t._biscuit Posts: 246
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.
    Alaphilippe mediocre? Do you watch cycling?
  • alanparsons
    alanparsons Posts: 529
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.

    Mediocre !!
    Number 1 ranked rider this year and last years KOM !!

    He may be drugged, I am sure we will find out but there is no way he is Mediocre.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,127
    Macron on French tv saying the French will win the Tour
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.

    But the tt he won suited him
    The bunch spring he won earlier in the season against the sprinting big boys suited him
    The ardennes classics all suited him
    The tourmalet suits him
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    davidof wrote:
    Macron on French tv saying the French will win the Tour

    Well he would say that wouldn't he. But he may actually be right about this.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    I am now very excited to see what Captain Julian Sparrow can do on a stage like stage 18 with 3 +2000 cols.
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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,127
    Above The Cows wrote:
    davidof wrote:
    Macron on French tv saying the French will win the Tour

    Well he would say that wouldn't he. But he may actually be right about this.
    My money is on Peanut but Ala looked very good at the finish
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Thomas appears mentally beaten already and it looks like inoes had planned for a froome win and now are just hedging their bets
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  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    If it's going to be a Frenchman I'd like to see Pinot win it. Would be uncomfortable seeing Alan Phillip win it and still think he'll crack.
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,923
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.

    I wouldn’t say mediocre. He is a great one day racer but he certainly isn’t a GC man. It would be like Gilbert suddenly leading the GC. Very suspect. Alaphilipe vs VDP for the tour next year.
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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,127
    itboffin wrote:
    Thomas appears mentally beaten already and it looks like inoes had planned for a froome win and now are just hedging their bets
    Bernal looks a good bet going forward
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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.

    why are you bringing froome into the conversation? he's not even there.

    #bizarre
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    gsk82 wrote:
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.

    But the tt he won suited him
    The bunch spring he won earlier in the season against the sprinting big boys suited him
    The ardennes classics all suited him
    The tourmalet suits him

    Maybe, just maybe, he's actually a special talent who's adjusted his training and lost some weight? It sounds similar to a lot of the accusations thrown at Sky's winners. I am surprised at Alaphilippe, and if he's still at the front after 180km tomorrow, then I will understand some scepticism. But maybe he's just a great rider who's got everything right and focused differently.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.

    why are you bringing froome into the conversation? he's not even there.

    #bizarre

    All right, sailor?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    davidof wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    davidof wrote:
    Macron on French tv saying the French will win the Tour

    Well he would say that wouldn't he. But he may actually be right about this.
    My money is on Peanut but Ala looked very good at the finish

    I'd also like Peanut, for sentimental reasons.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    john1967 wrote:
    A mediocre rider suddenly becomes an incredible GC rider dropping some of the world's best climbers???
    Quite frankly it stinks.

    why are you bringing froome into the conversation? he's not even there.

    #bizarre
    You're right you know. ;)
    Alaphilippe performing the way he has is much less of a surprise (by an order of magnitude) than the sudden emergence of Froome from nowhere.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Anyway some tasty cow action on Tourmalet earlier!

    https://twitter.com/NBCSNCycling/status/1152548598250463233

    Personally I hate those motorbikes on climbs, and then they all stand hogging the col sign to have their photos taken as if they've actually achieved anything riding a motor powered vehicle along a road, so go cows!
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