TDF 2019, Stage 12: Toulouse > Bagnères-de-Bigorre 18/07/2019 - 209,5 km *Spoilers*

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Right. De Gendt has woken up, so maybe the break has a chance of forming.
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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    As for the GC mobs, there was talk about Ineos looking a little weaker than usual on the Plank (although talk also of riders saving energy) with Thomas and Bernal isolated early. I can see a few teams giving it a bit of a go just to see if there's any weakness there.
    I read the Ineos lack of numbers on the Ironing Board of the Hotties as being Ineos saving energy knowing up front Thomas and Bernal were just too good and fresh to find themselves in any difficulties. The team car was actively waving them back to slow down, they hadn't just blown early on.
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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    going to be a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE crash with 20k to go as those dropped on the final climb desperately try to chase back on during the descent.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Terrible breakaway. Must be 35 riders gone up the road.
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  • 42 riders, haha!
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    42 in the break according to itv4.
  • At what point does a break become a peloton? :?
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    It's a golf ball of a break.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    All that effort to get a break away off the front, and it still comes down to whenever Ineos choose to smear themselves across the front to shut it down.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    The Break (with GC position)

    G. Van Avermaet 111 CCC
    + 14' 25''
    N. Roche 148 SUN
    + 17' 57''
    M. Trentin 107 MTS
    + 22' 52''
    M. Matthews 141 SUN
    + 24' 53''
    P. Sagan 11 BOH
    + 25' 04''
    J. Stuyven 138 TFS
    + 27' 46''
    M. Frank 34 ALM
    + 30' 07''
    E. Boasson Hagen 201 TDD
    + 33' 48''
    M. Schachmann 18 BOH
    + 34' 35''
    G. Mühlberger 15 BOH
    + 34' 59''
    D. Teuns 47 TBM
    + 37' 34''
    R. Costa 124 UAD
    + 38' 04''
    S. Colbrelli 43 TBM
    + 39' 06''
    F. Felline 135 TFS
    + 39' 54''
    S. Clarke 93 EF1
    + 41' 28''
    T. Benoot 162 LTS
    + 42' 11''
    O. Naesen 37 ALM
    + 45' 31''
    P. Bilbao Lopez De Armentia 72 AST
    + 45' 49''
    A. Bettiol 92 EF1
    + 47' 51''
    M. Valgren 208 TDD
    + 53' 08''
    A. Pasqualon 197 WGG
    + 59' 46''
    P. Perichon 156 COF
    + 01h 02' 47''
    T. Wellens 168 LTS
    + 01h 04' 18''
    T. Gallopin 35 ALM
    + 01h 05' 19''
    I. Garcia Cortina 45 TBM
    + 01h 07' 05''
    S. Yates 108 MTS
    + 01h 08' 19''
    N. Arndt 142 SUN
    + 01h 10' 10''
    D. Oss 16 BOH
    + 01h 11' 04''
    J. Simon 158 COF
    + 01h 11' 50''
    S. Pauwels 115 CCC
    + 01h 12' 47''
    M. Teunissen 87 TJV
    + 01h 13' 13''
    K. Ledanois 216 PCB
    + 01h 14' 59''
    I. Erviti 64 MOV
    + 01h 19' 00''
    F. Grellier 173 TDE
    + 01h 24' 18''
    C. Bol 143 SUN
    + 01h 28' 53''
    A. Kristoff 126 UAD
    + 01h 29' 51''
    R. Kluge 166 LTS
    + 01h 30' 54''
    D. Groenewegen 84 TJV
    + 01h 39' 37''
    M. Mørkøv 26 DQT
    + 01h 40' 21''
    T. Scully 96 EF1
    + 01h 43' 05''
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    I thought I saw the polkadot sitting with Ineos......
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    edited July 2019
    I thought I saw the polkadot sitting with Ineos......
    Please inform the Tour website. They're adamant he's in the break
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    I thought I saw the polkadot sitting with Ineos......

    In the break apparently.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Thomas/Ineos look casual.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    The Guardian saying that Dan Martin is there, as well as Wellens?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    RichN95 wrote:
    I thought I saw the polkadot sitting with Ineos......
    Please inform the Tour website. They're adamant he's in the break

    And they are right. :oops:

    Looks like about 39 of the 42 riders are trying to sit on.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    3 mins to the PTP deadline - change to one of the break riders?

    That break is way too big to work together properly
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    But big enough to give someone a rest and then launch from the front before the peloton catches up?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    3 mins to the PTP deadline - change to one of the break riders?

    That break is way too big to work together properly
    I picked Costa, then changed my mind to Herrada, but then Costa got in the break so I changed it back again. Herrada will now win.
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    The Guardian saying that Dan Martin is there, as well as Wellens?

    The TDF site isn't showing Dan in the lead group.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486

    c57fe

    The profile has something of this top fish about it...

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    Oh well done! :D
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  • Alan Ha Ha
    Alan Ha Ha Posts: 88
    Loving the pure naivety of Al Murray's questions and comments on ITV.
  • Alan Ha Ha wrote:
    Loving the pure naivety of Al Murray's questions and comments on ITV.

    Yes I'm quite enjoying it.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Alan Ha Ha wrote:
    Loving the pure naivety of Al Murray's questions and comments on ITV.

    Yep that was good at a time when nothing much was going on anyway.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Alan Ha Ha wrote:
    Loving the pure naivety of Al Murray's questions and comments on ITV.

    I just came on to comment on what a good segment i thought that was.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Alan Ha Ha wrote:
    Loving the pure naivety of Al Murray's questions and comments on ITV.

    I'm usually a bit sceptical of pulling in someone who knows nothing about bike racing (apart from on Eurosport, where they're generally asked to commentate) but he had a genuine enthusiasm for finding out more that was seriously infectious, and Ned and Dave enjoyed playing to it. I'd be surprised if there isn't a producer or two thinking of pitching Al Murray going behind the scenes of the tour right now.
  • I do find Pippa slightly hard work. Reckon I'm going to nick off for lunch and come back somewhere near the foot of the Peyresourde.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    3 mins to the PTP deadline - change to one of the break riders?

    That break is way too big to work together properly
    I picked Costa, then changed my mind to Herrada, but then Costa got in the break so I changed it back again. Herrada will now win.
    I changed to Costa as well, Nibali will probably win now.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    FocusZing wrote:
    42 in the break according to itv4.

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Early finish today and they are a little ahead of the fastest schedule.
    Good news with all the live sport about.
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