TDF 2019: Stage 10, Saint-Flour > Albi 15/07/2019 - 217,5 km *Spoilers*

bm5

RichN95 wrote:

Dan Martin making the front echelon in the wind is the cycling equivalent of hell freezing over and pigs flying.

Must admit I was thinking he would be in 5th group or something. No mention at all in commentary. So very pleased when top 10 shown.
Bardet was a shock too.

poweredbyidris

Has George Bennett finished yet?

Pross

Bennett must have been well chuffed crossing the line after losing all that time with his team mates celebrating the stage win as they escorted him. All in for their Dutch GC rider and stage hopeful!

above_the_cows

PoweredByIdris wrote:

Has George Bennett finished yet?

Live scenes...

above_the_cows

Pross wrote:

Bennett must have been well chuffed crossing the line after losing all that time with his team mates celebrating the stage win as they escorted him. All in for their Dutch GC rider and stage hopeful!

As I said it will be an interesting Jumbo dinner table tonight.

shirley_basso

Above The Cows wrote:

Pross wrote:

Bennett must have been well chuffed crossing the line after losing all that time with his team mates celebrating the stage win as they escorted him. All in for their Dutch GC rider and stage hopeful!

As I said it will be an interesting Jumbo dinner table tonight.

Been away for a few days and not caught up with the details of the stage yet - can someone explain this in simple terms?

Pross

GC after Stage 10

1 JULIAN ALAPHILIPPE 43H 27' 15''
2 GERAINT THOMAS @ 01' 12''
3 EGAN BERNAL @ 01' 16''
4 STEVEN KRUIJSWIJK @ 01' 27''
5 EMANUEL BUCHMANN @ 01' 45''
6 ENRIC MAS @ 01' 46''
7 ADAM YATES @ 01' 47''
8 NAIRO QUINTANA @ 02' 04''
9 DANIEL MARTIN @ 02' 09''
10 GIULIO CICCONE @ 02' 32''

There's been some good racing already plus the TTT but those gaps are looking nice and close still with at the end of the first period. For some reason I though Kruijswijk had lost time a few stages ago but is doing well there.

Pross

Shirley Basso wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

Pross wrote:

Bennett must have been well chuffed crossing the line after losing all that time with his team mates celebrating the stage win as they escorted him. All in for their Dutch GC rider and stage hopeful!

As I said it will be an interesting Jumbo dinner table tonight.

Been away for a few days and not caught up with the details of the stage yet - can someone explain this in simple terms?

There were echelons today that apparently started when Jumbo had sent Bennett back to get drinks (he was their best placed GC rider going into the stage). He ended up losing about 2:30 coming in in the third group whilst Kruijswijk made the front group and WvA won the stage, as Bennett eventually crossed the line looking like his GC hopes have all but gone the team mates with him were celebrating the stage win which must have been nice for him!

ridgerider

Bennett was never a serious GC nomination by Jumbo. He was only put forward as a gesture to the current fad to name multiple team leaders. He's done nothing all year.

Mad_Malx

Pross wrote:

There's been some good racing already plus the TTT but those gaps are looking nice and close still with at the end of the first period.

I'll curse the rest of the race by saying this is the best 'first half' I can remember (although I've only been following daily for last few years).

Mad_Malx

delete

RichN95.

Ridgerider wrote:

Bennett was never a serious GC nomination by Jumbo. He was only put forward as a gesture to the current fad to name multiple team leaders. He's done nothing all year.

He was involved in pulling for the lead-outs earlier in the race. Nevertheless, he was fourth this morning so not someone to burn unnecessarily.

Pross

Ridgerider wrote:

Bennett was never a serious GC nomination by Jumbo. He was only put forward as a gesture to the current fad to name multiple team leaders. He's done nothing all year.

I think if I were Jumbo I'd want a back up to Kruijswijk though.

EDIT even if he isn't your main GC man is he really the one you would send back to the car?

poweredbyidris

Erm - Landa: https://twitter.com/RubenEBH/status/1150787666201518080

Kinda surprised it's not Moscon

blazing_saddles

Ridgerider wrote:

Bennett was never a serious GC nomination by Jumbo. He was only put forward as a gesture to the current fad to name multiple team leaders. He's done nothing all year.

You are joking, right?
It's about having another card to play in the mountains.
At 3-30pm Jumbo had an ace up their sleeve. Less than an hour later they find they only have a joker.

blazing_saddles

Mad_Malx wrote:

Pross wrote:

There's been some good racing already plus the TTT but those gaps are looking nice and close still with at the end of the first period.

I'll curse the rest of the race by saying this is the best 'first half' I can remember (although I've only been following daily for last few years).

Absolutely.
Best I can remember in eons.

DeadCalm

PoweredByIdris wrote:

Erm - Landa: https://twitter.com/RubenEBH/status/1150787666201518080

Kinda surprised it's not Moscon

I'm trying to view it on my phone. If what it looks like, is happening, then that is not good. Is anyone able to make it out clearly?

poweredbyidris

DeadCalm wrote:

PoweredByIdris wrote:

Erm - Landa: https://twitter.com/RubenEBH/status/1150787666201518080

Kinda surprised it's not Moscon

I'm trying to view it on my phone. If what it looks like is happening then that is not good. Is anyone able to make it out clearly?

Whoever knocks him off the road has their right foot out of the cleat, so may not be as intentional as it looks

mamil314

Do you think race is more interesting because Fru and Du could not take part?

ridgerider

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Ridgerider wrote:

Bennett was never a serious GC nomination by Jumbo. He was only put forward as a gesture to the current fad to name multiple team leaders. He's done nothing all year.

You are joking, right?
It's about having another card to play in the mountains.
At 3-30pm Jumbo had an ace up their sleeve. Less than an hour later they find they only have a joker.

He was never an ace.

Pross

mamil314 wrote:

Do you think race is more interesting because Fru and Du could not take part?

I don't think it would be much different at this stage, having Dumoulin there may have added even more uncertainty to the outcome and if Froome was there I guess it would just mean that Ineos would have 3 cards available at this stage. I think it's more a case that despite there being some good racing no-one has really shipped a load of time yet out of the favourites (other than Bardet). The TTT didn't cost anyone too greatly and Pinot managed to gain a few second more than he lost. The organisers should be congratulated for getting a good first week together as they are usually blamed for not having such an exciting race as the Giro (which had a dire first week this year).

ridgerider

It feels to me like there have been fewer pure sprinters stages, so a bit more variety for a first week?

hypster

I don't think the organisers can take much credit for todays stage. If it wasn't for the wind it probably would have been just another sprint stage with the breakaway getting gobbled up inside the last 3 km.

It has been an entertaining first week though and definitely some route variety has helped shake things up a bit. Nice to see some actual GC racing.

ShutupJens

Ridgerider wrote:

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Ridgerider wrote:

Bennett was never a serious GC nomination by Jumbo. He was only put forward as a gesture to the current fad to name multiple team leaders. He's done nothing all year.

You are joking, right?
It's about having another card to play in the mountains.
At 3-30pm Jumbo had an ace up their sleeve. Less than an hour later they find they only have a joker.

He was never an ace.

The attempt to follow Bardet yesterday showed that somewhat. None of that trio were anything other than a minor inconvenience for GC hopefuls/Ineos doms

Given Bennett's propensity for speaking his mind in interviews I would love to see what he had to say after todays stage

RichN95.

mamil314 wrote:

Do you think race is more interesting because Fru and Du could not take part?

Nothing to do with them. There's not be much in the way of typical GC stages. The organisers have, for once, largely ignored Western France, which is very flat and chosen stages according to what is likely to produce good racing rather than places with the most cash or where they're friends with the mayor

RichN95.

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Ridgerider wrote:

Bennett was never a serious GC nomination by Jumbo. He was only put forward as a gesture to the current fad to name multiple team leaders. He's done nothing all year.

You are joking, right?
It's about having another card to play in the mountains.
At 3-30pm Jumbo had an ace up their sleeve. Less than an hour later they find they only have a joker.

...and a fourth stage win. Their race is already an A Grade success.

RichN95.

DeadCalm wrote:

PoweredByIdris wrote:

Erm - Landa: https://twitter.com/RubenEBH/status/1150787666201518080

Kinda surprised it's not Moscon

I'm trying to view it on my phone. If what it looks like, is happening, then that is not good. Is anyone able to make it out clearly?

Baguil clipped Alaphilippe's wheel and lost his balance and knocked into Landa.

above_the_cows

And the ITV highlights do not show the split. Goddamit!

alanparsons

Above The Cows wrote:

And the ITV highlights do not show the split. Goddamit!

Both ITV and EuroSport were on ad break when the decisive move was made, coverage concentrated on the EF1 position while they tried to get a camera bike back up to the front of the race. I think it was a case of a wheel being lost and suddenly there was a gap that nobody expected.

mididoctors

its was unusual in how the different teams had a go but failed then got caught out.

pinots tour pretty much done

shame