TDF 2019: Stage 8, Mâcon > Saint-Étienne 13/07/2019 - 200 km *Spoilers*

above_the_cows

mididoctors wrote:

DeadCalm wrote:

mididoctors wrote:

looks like g took himself out?

Really?
Looked clear to me that he was brought down.

i didn't see him come into contact with anyone except moscon

There was an EF (Michael Woods he said) on the deck in front of him, over which he performed his graceful dismount.

Pross

Woods took out Moscon, Moscon's bike got tangled into Geraint's and he somehow managed to jump clear and land on his feet. Took a while to free his bike from the wreck of Moscon's though.

blazing_saddles

mididoctors wrote:

looks like g took himself out?

Huh?

Woods crashes, Moscon right behind piles in and Geraint has nowhere to go.
He's a crash magnet certainly, but he's not at fault very often to be fair.

Seems fine anyhow.
I wonder how many bullets Pinot fired today?
With Bardet off colour, he is going to find the weight of expectation from a whole nation heaped upon his shoulders.

Woods completely out of the GC, unless he arrived on a team mates bike.
Looks to have finished @ 14' 22''

Pross

Any news on Moscon? He went down pretty hard and Ineos could do without losing him.

above_the_cows

The Loire looking beautiful here.

blazing_saddles

Pross wrote:

Any news on Moscon? He went down pretty hard and Ineos could do without losing him.

Finished 24 minutes down.

specialgueststar

Fantastic stage

mididoctors

Above The Cows wrote:

mididoctors wrote:

DeadCalm wrote:

mididoctors wrote:

looks like g took himself out?

Really?
Looked clear to me that he was brought down.

i didn't see him come into contact with anyone except moscon

There was an EF (Michael Woods he said) on the deck in front of him, over which he performed his graceful dismount.

Was there... My bad

DeadCalm

Thomas talking Alaphilippe up as a serious rival. Not really, surely? Can, at a push, see him doing a Voekler and hanging near the podium but winning the whole thing, just don't see it.

DeadCalm

Also, totally understandable that Thomas wasn't able to go with Alaphilippe and Pinot given that he had only just got back on after a hard chase, but interesting that Bernal didn't mark them. Not able to do so or tactics?

salsiccia1

FocusZing wrote:

More marginal gains there from Ineos, I see. Riding Bromptons so they can use the spare space in the team van for more comfy mattresses. Very clever.

RichN95.

Offredo made it to the finish inside the time limit

tailwindhome

I hope the scrutineers on Twitter got all the closeups they needed of Thomas's bike

drhaggis

I did a little bit of parenting/indoctrination today. By the end of the stage both teeny tiny haggises were cheering for Thomas de Gendt. Very glad to see it go that way, after an unusually tight and thrilling finale.

gsk82

The ineos guy who stayed upright didn't look like Thomas to me.

andyp

gsk82 wrote:

The ineos guy who stayed upright didn't look like Thomas to me.

It was Moscon. Thomas fell and landed on Moscon's bike, which presumably broke his fall a bit, but broke in the process.

FocusZing

andyp wrote:

gsk82 wrote:

The ineos guy who stayed upright didn't look like Thomas to me.

It was Moscon. Thomas fell and landed on Moscon's bike, which presumably broke his fall a bit, but broke in the process.

It looks like he tried his best to avoid the five grand Lightweights.

amrushton

Discussion on the move podcast about Alaphilippe using ketone-esters in the final 30km. Never heard of these but apparently it's a third food source along with carbs and fat. Developed by the military and Quick Step is one of the biggest users. It's not illegal btw as it's a supplement but now something to drive the lab nutters into further madness.

https://hvmn.com/ketone-ester/science

hypster

Brilliant from Thomas de Gendt and fantastic opportunism from Alaphillippe and Pinot which made for a very exciting finish. However, all those pinning their hopes on a Pinot or Alaphilippe TdF victory are living in cloud cuckoo land IMO.

Once the big mountains come and Ineos start doing their thing it's going to be the same old, same old I'm afraid.

FocusZing

amrushton wrote:

Discussion on the move podcast about Alaphilippe using ketone-esters in the final 30km. Never heard of these but apparently it's a third food source along with carbs and fat. Developed by the military and Quick Step is one of the biggest users. It's not illegal btw as it's a supplement but now something to drive the lab nutters into further madness.

https://hvmn.com/ketone-ester/science

Yeah, I think Ineos/Sky were the first to use them.

DeVlaeminck

Is Thomas DeGendt not good in a bunch ? Just wondering why he doesn't seem to do much in classics given how strong he is in grand tours.

Pross

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Is Thomas DeGendt not good in a bunch ? Just wondering why he doesn't seem to do much in classics given how strong he is in grand tours.

I think he has said he doesn't like riding in a group but I've never worked out if that was a joke!

Pross

amrushton wrote:

Discussion on the move podcast about Alaphilippe using ketone-esters in the final 30km. Never heard of these but apparently it's a third food source along with carbs and fat. Developed by the military and Quick Step is one of the biggest users. It's not illegal btw as it's a supplement but now something to drive the lab nutters into further madness.

https://hvmn.com/ketone-ester/science

It's just the by product you get from a ketatonic diet then?

blazing_saddles

Pross wrote:

underlayunderlay wrote:

Pinot tries waving the moto through to take its turn. Moto sits on.

Obviously no understanding of the convention when racing in France. They'll be thrown off the race.

There were a number of complaints about the French motorbikes pacing the French duo, most notably by Fuglsang and Mollema.
Frankly, I'm shocked.

hypster

Pross wrote:

amrushton wrote:

Discussion on the move podcast about Alaphilippe using ketone-esters in the final 30km. Never heard of these but apparently it's a third food source along with carbs and fat. Developed by the military and Quick Step is one of the biggest users. It's not illegal btw as it's a supplement but now something to drive the lab nutters into further madness.

https://hvmn.com/ketone-ester/science

It's just the by product you get from a ketatonic diet then?

No, the by-product you get from a ketogenic diet is not making it to the end of stage 1 of the TdF inside the time limit.

blazing_saddles

Gif of the crash, here.
As I thought at the time, Thomas was the one who came down hard on his back.

https://twitter.com/pimentanuno/status/ ... 2742680577

bobmcstuff

FocusZing wrote:

amrushton wrote:

Discussion on the move podcast about Alaphilippe using ketone-esters in the final 30km. Never heard of these but apparently it's a third food source along with carbs and fat. Developed by the military and Quick Step is one of the biggest users. It's not illegal btw as it's a supplement but now something to drive the lab nutters into further madness.

https://hvmn.com/ketone-ester/science

Yeah, I think Ineos/Sky were the first to use them.

And apparently it tastes horrid

Pross

My mistake then, he didn't seem to have a mark on him at the finish so I assumed he was the one who landed on his feet as the other rider looked to have gone down hard which was why I'd wondered if Moscon had finished.

ocdupalais

hypster wrote:

Pross wrote:

amrushton wrote:

Discussion on the move podcast about Alaphilippe using ketone-esters in the final 30km. Never heard of these but apparently it's a third food source along with carbs and fat. Developed by the military and Quick Step is one of the biggest users. It's not illegal btw as it's a supplement but now something to drive the lab nutters into further madness.

https://hvmn.com/ketone-ester/science

It's just the by product you get from a ketatonic diet then?

No, the by-product you get from a ketogenic diet is not making it to the end of stage 1 of the TdF inside the time limit.

Yeah, but you get lots of lovely comments about how thin you look.

mididoctors

TDG was fantastic