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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    surrey_commuter said:

    First.Aspect said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    I drove from Mumbles up to Aberdovey and it felt like nearly every village had bunting and Welsh flags up.

    Do they always do that or have I missed something?

    I absolutely love how this exposes the London/SE myopia.

    It is a bit like the start of lockdown where we saw lots of young people wearing what I assume is fashionable clothing wandering around the countryside marvelling at how everything was covered in plants.
    are you saying that the Welsh countryside is always covered in bunting and flags?

    and if so (I have never noticed before) why no bunting in England?
    I don't know why the English dont do it, but the Scots and Welsh love the national flag almost as much as an American loves theirs. I think it's about showing your individuality by following what other people are doing.


    You'd have to have visited Wales or Scotland before in order to notice this, but it isn't new.

    Not sure about the bunting. It'll either be something to do with Brenda's jubilee or because someone Welsh won a bronze medal in the lawn bowls. Guessing the former.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,295
    Priceless.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    kingstongraham said:

    Priceless.

    I'm trying to find out who on the forum is Welsh.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    First.Aspect said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    First.Aspect said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    I drove from Mumbles up to Aberdovey and it felt like nearly every village had bunting and Welsh flags up.

    Do they always do that or have I missed something?

    I absolutely love how this exposes the London/SE myopia.

    It is a bit like the start of lockdown where we saw lots of young people wearing what I assume is fashionable clothing wandering around the countryside marvelling at how everything was covered in plants.
    are you saying that the Welsh countryside is always covered in bunting and flags?

    and if so (I have never noticed before) why no bunting in England?
    I don't know why the English dont do it, but the Scots and Welsh love the national flag almost as much as an American loves theirs. I think it's about showing your individuality by following what other people are doing.


    You'd have to have visited Wales or Scotland before in order to notice this, but it isn't new.

    Not sure about the bunting. It'll either be something to do with Brenda's jubilee or because someone Welsh won a bronze medal in the lawn bowls. Guessing the former.
    You will have to trust me that I have been to rural Wales before.

    Does the fact you don't know expose the wherever you are from myopia?
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,668
    Man exposed as travelling away from his local area in Wales Shocker
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    surrey_commuter said:

    First.Aspect said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    First.Aspect said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    I drove from Mumbles up to Aberdovey and it felt like nearly every village had bunting and Welsh flags up.

    Do they always do that or have I missed something?

    I absolutely love how this exposes the London/SE myopia.

    It is a bit like the start of lockdown where we saw lots of young people wearing what I assume is fashionable clothing wandering around the countryside marvelling at how everything was covered in plants.
    are you saying that the Welsh countryside is always covered in bunting and flags?

    and if so (I have never noticed before) why no bunting in England?
    I don't know why the English dont do it, but the Scots and Welsh love the national flag almost as much as an American loves theirs. I think it's about showing your individuality by following what other people are doing.


    You'd have to have visited Wales or Scotland before in order to notice this, but it isn't new.

    Not sure about the bunting. It'll either be something to do with Brenda's jubilee or because someone Welsh won a bronze medal in the lawn bowls. Guessing the former.
    You will have to trust me that I have been to rural Wales before.

    Does the fact you don't know expose the wherever you are from myopia?
    It's a presumption based on you being from Surrey.

    You have me on the bunting thing. Did you try to communicate with any of the locals using Google translate, to find out?

    There's no particular bunting prevelance here in the borders of Scotland, but it varies from town to town based on when they have the local who has the fattest cow fair, or when they "ride out" (this involves dressing stupidly and using your horse to damage hedgerows - and is very traditional).
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,686
    Not sure how long it has been a thing but it certainly isn't unique to Wales. It seems to be very common in most touristy areas. I've seen it in places I've visited in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset for years. I'm sure there are villages in Surrey with it as well. I think there is more this year, possibly as a legacy of the jubilee.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,674
    If its an intriguing amount of bunting you are after I recommend Ashbourne in the Peak District.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Pross said:

    Not sure how long it has been a thing but it certainly isn't unique to Wales. It seems to be very common in most touristy areas. I've seen it in places I've visited in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset for years. I'm sure there are villages in Surrey with it as well. I think there is more this year, possibly as a legacy of the jubilee.

    this was away from the touristy areas so going north from Carmarthen.

    maybe the answer is that I have been driving around with my eyes shut
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    Not sure how long it has been a thing but it certainly isn't unique to Wales. It seems to be very common in most touristy areas. I've seen it in places I've visited in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset for years. I'm sure there are villages in Surrey with it as well. I think there is more this year, possibly as a legacy of the jubilee.

    this was away from the touristy areas so going north from Carmarthen.

    maybe the answer is that I have been driving around with my eyes shut
    Smidsyb.

    Sorry mate I didn't see your bunting.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    First.Aspect said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    First.Aspect said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    First.Aspect said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    I drove from Mumbles up to Aberdovey and it felt like nearly every village had bunting and Welsh flags up.

    Do they always do that or have I missed something?

    I absolutely love how this exposes the London/SE myopia.

    It is a bit like the start of lockdown where we saw lots of young people wearing what I assume is fashionable clothing wandering around the countryside marvelling at how everything was covered in plants.
    are you saying that the Welsh countryside is always covered in bunting and flags?

    and if so (I have never noticed before) why no bunting in England?
    I don't know why the English dont do it, but the Scots and Welsh love the national flag almost as much as an American loves theirs. I think it's about showing your individuality by following what other people are doing.


    You'd have to have visited Wales or Scotland before in order to notice this, but it isn't new.

    Not sure about the bunting. It'll either be something to do with Brenda's jubilee or because someone Welsh won a bronze medal in the lawn bowls. Guessing the former.
    You will have to trust me that I have been to rural Wales before.

    Does the fact you don't know expose the wherever you are from myopia?
    It's a presumption based on you being from Surrey.

    You have me on the bunting thing. Did you try to communicate with any of the locals using Google translate, to find out?

    There's no particular bunting prevelance here in the borders of Scotland, but it varies from town to town based on when they have the local who has the fattest cow fair, or when they "ride out" (this involves dressing stupidly and using your horse to damage hedgerows - and is very traditional).
    half of my in-laws are Welsh and to confirm a stereotype a brother has a 2nd home there.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,193
    Can this "bunting" be described? It's difficult to get to the crux of the issue without photographic evidence?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,686
    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    Not sure how long it has been a thing but it certainly isn't unique to Wales. It seems to be very common in most touristy areas. I've seen it in places I've visited in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset for years. I'm sure there are villages in Surrey with it as well. I think there is more this year, possibly as a legacy of the jubilee.

    this was away from the touristy areas so going north from Carmarthen.

    maybe the answer is that I have been driving around with my eyes shut
    Here you go, something closer to home for you, Farnham

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/NatWest/@51.2147893,-0.7994678,3a,75y,244.55h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6WxvR-Njb2vbw1_YgLOQyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x48742dabb7d4dba7:0x77b5c89ee28713c!2sBoots!8m2!3d51.2145995!4d-0.7995228!3m4!1s0x48742dabc832ca6d:0xe176c6557023b130!8m2!3d51.2149141!4d-0.7989718
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    focuszing723 said:

    Can this "bunting" be described? It's difficult to get to the crux of the issue without photographic evidence?

    Think nationalist Christmas decorations.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,193
    edited August 2022
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Pross said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    Not sure how long it has been a thing but it certainly isn't unique to Wales. It seems to be very common in most touristy areas. I've seen it in places I've visited in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset for years. I'm sure there are villages in Surrey with it as well. I think there is more this year, possibly as a legacy of the jubilee.

    this was away from the touristy areas so going north from Carmarthen.

    maybe the answer is that I have been driving around with my eyes shut
    Here you go, something closer to home for you, Farnham

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/NatWest/@51.2147893,-0.7994678,3a,75y,244.55h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6WxvR-Njb2vbw1_YgLOQyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x48742dabb7d4dba7:0x77b5c89ee28713c!2sBoots!8m2!3d51.2145995!4d-0.7995228!3m4!1s0x48742dabc832ca6d:0xe176c6557023b130!8m2!3d51.2149141!4d-0.7989718
    no nothing like that. it looked more like the locals had a whip round and strung it up wherever convenient
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    Kind of looks like any working class area of Scotland, except here is blue and white with the word "yes" everywhere.

    The locals look less inbred though.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    First.Aspect said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Can this "bunting" be described? It's difficult to get to the crux of the issue without photographic evidence?

    Think nationalist Christmas decorations.
    Other than the odd big flag it did not strike me as nationalistic. Was all the same but strung upwherever it was convenient.

    Google would describe it as village fete bunting - this is not an actual picture

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    Potentially it is worse here then.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,193
    surrey_commuter said:

    First.Aspect said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Can this "bunting" be described? It's difficult to get to the crux of the issue without photographic evidence?

    Think nationalist Christmas decorations.
    Other than the odd big flag it did not strike me as nationalistic. Was all the same but strung upwherever it was convenient.

    Google would describe it as village fete bunting - this is not an actual picture

    See, that's what I was thinking about, just pride in an area.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,686
    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    Not sure how long it has been a thing but it certainly isn't unique to Wales. It seems to be very common in most touristy areas. I've seen it in places I've visited in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset for years. I'm sure there are villages in Surrey with it as well. I think there is more this year, possibly as a legacy of the jubilee.

    this was away from the touristy areas so going north from Carmarthen.

    maybe the answer is that I have been driving around with my eyes shut
    Here you go, something closer to home for you, Farnham

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/NatWest/@51.2147893,-0.7994678,3a,75y,244.55h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6WxvR-Njb2vbw1_YgLOQyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x48742dabb7d4dba7:0x77b5c89ee28713c!2sBoots!8m2!3d51.2145995!4d-0.7995228!3m4!1s0x48742dabc832ca6d:0xe176c6557023b130!8m2!3d51.2149141!4d-0.7989718
    no nothing like that. it looked more like the locals had a whip round and strung it up wherever convenient
    More like this then?


  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,193
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=village+bunting&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDz5_inLz5AhUwQkEAHcgrBKEQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1093&bih=503&dpr=1.25
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    So do we think bunting was actually invented in Wiltshire, not rural Wales?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Pross said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    Not sure how long it has been a thing but it certainly isn't unique to Wales. It seems to be very common in most touristy areas. I've seen it in places I've visited in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset for years. I'm sure there are villages in Surrey with it as well. I think there is more this year, possibly as a legacy of the jubilee.

    this was away from the touristy areas so going north from Carmarthen.

    maybe the answer is that I have been driving around with my eyes shut
    Here you go, something closer to home for you, Farnham

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/NatWest/@51.2147893,-0.7994678,3a,75y,244.55h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6WxvR-Njb2vbw1_YgLOQyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x48742dabb7d4dba7:0x77b5c89ee28713c!2sBoots!8m2!3d51.2145995!4d-0.7995228!3m4!1s0x48742dabc832ca6d:0xe176c6557023b130!8m2!3d51.2149141!4d-0.7989718
    no nothing like that. it looked more like the locals had a whip round and strung it up wherever convenient
    More like this then?


    I was driving on an A road through villages and hamlets so it was attached to fences and the like, so whilst the bunting was not home made the installation was amateur
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,686
    As someone mentioned above Derbyshire does seem to be peak (see what I did there) bunting territory although the one image above is actually darkest Surrey.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,469
    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Pross said:

    Not sure how long it has been a thing but it certainly isn't unique to Wales. It seems to be very common in most touristy areas. I've seen it in places I've visited in Devon, Cornwall and Dorset for years. I'm sure there are villages in Surrey with it as well. I think there is more this year, possibly as a legacy of the jubilee.

    this was away from the touristy areas so going north from Carmarthen.

    maybe the answer is that I have been driving around with my eyes shut
    Here you go, something closer to home for you, Farnham

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/NatWest/@51.2147893,-0.7994678,3a,75y,244.55h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6WxvR-Njb2vbw1_YgLOQyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x48742dabb7d4dba7:0x77b5c89ee28713c!2sBoots!8m2!3d51.2145995!4d-0.7995228!3m4!1s0x48742dabc832ca6d:0xe176c6557023b130!8m2!3d51.2149141!4d-0.7989718
    no nothing like that. it looked more like the locals had a whip round and strung it up wherever convenient
    More like this then?


    I was driving on an A road through villages and hamlets so it was attached to fences and the like, so whilst the bunting was not home made the installation was amateur
    You don't know that. It could have been artisan bunting, but the hanging up was outsourced.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,193
    Bunting refers to a string of paper or material triangles that are strung out as a form of decoration, typically used in the UK for festivities like street parties for grand occasions like the end of World War II, the Queen’s various jubilees, summer parties and Royal weddings. It’s also often been used at political conventions and rallies.

    In recent years, we’ve seen a lot of it, for example at the wedding of Kate and William in 2011 and for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee the following year. Because many of these celebrations take place during the warmer months, it’s the perfect time to decorate outdoors as well as inside. But how did it all begin?

    It seems that the very earliest bunting was made at the start of the seventeenth century, and was connected to the flags used on the ships of the Royal Navy. On a naval vessel, the sailor who had the task of raising the flags on board - the ship’s communications officer - is still known as the “bunt”.
    https://www.giftsfromhandpicked.co.uk/blog/blog-47.html#:~:text=Bunting's Origins,known as the “bunt”.
    I didn't know bunting could be so fascinating.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,627
    focuszing723 said:

    Can this "bunting" be described? It's difficult to get to the crux of the issue without photographic evidence?

    If your eyesight is poor, you'll have to feel it.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,627
    surrey_commuter said:

    ...so whilst the bunting was not home made the installation was amateur

    That's ^ very Surrey.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited August 2022


    Hmm

    I for one won’t stand until every single book ever written appears on a university reading list
    _

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