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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Pross said:

    Why is it that no matter what way the wind is blowing and which side off the BBQ I stand the smoke always follows me?

    Magnetic personality.

    Or it's the Bill Gates 5G inserts into the meat being attracted by the covid vaccine. Innit.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,186
    …and the wind always blows out the match.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Hadn’t appreciated exactly how dry most of the country is.
    Here in the north west, we’ve had quite a dry summer and the reservoirs are low but, it has rained regularly. Just not for very long or very heavily. Everything is the most lush I have ever seen. Everywhere is green as green can be and growing like wildfire.
    London on Monday, dry as a bone. Nottingham today, dry as a bone.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,205
    morstar said:

    Hadn’t appreciated exactly how dry most of the country is.
    Here in the north west, we’ve had quite a dry summer and the reservoirs are low but, it has rained regularly. Just not for very long or very heavily. Everything is the most lush I have ever seen. Everywhere is green as green can be and growing like wildfire.
    London on Monday, dry as a bone. Nottingham today, dry as a bone.

    It's as green as can be here too.
    Last year at this same point, this peninsula was as brown as and the rest of the region (45 miles in) was green!
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,417
    morstar said:

    Hadn’t appreciated exactly how dry most of the country is.
    Here in the north west, we’ve had quite a dry summer and the reservoirs are low but, it has rained regularly. Just not for very long or very heavily. Everything is the most lush I have ever seen. Everywhere is green as green can be and growing like wildfire.
    London on Monday, dry as a bone. Nottingham today, dry as a bone.

    I really noticed it when I stopped off at the Elan Valley the other week and saw how low the reservoirs were. I'd had a debate with a colleague who felt we'd had a wet spring (this was back at the Jubilee holiday). I reckoned it hadn't been very warm or sunny but very dry, I usually judge by how often I can remember getting soaked walking the dogs and it didn't seem something that had happened much since early spring.

    It's only the last couple of weeks everything has started looking brown around here though. I also haven't noticed any fires on the mountains locally which is rare when it has been dry. They'll no doubt start now it's school holidays though.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,417
    Some old guy came to the tyre shop while I was there and got given a price of £40 odd per tyre for his small Peugeot. He seemed shocked that was the price per tyre which left me wondering how much he was expecting to pay considering a decent bike tyre can set you back that amount and you have to fit it yourself.

    He then decided to not go ahead so I'm intrigued if he thinks the tyre will get cheaper or if he is hoping the tread will grow back on his current tyre. Also, if you're that price sensitive I would have thought you'd ring around for prices first.

    I mean, the bloke was a boomer so therefore almost certainly minted from what I understand. Maybe the tyres were too cheap for him
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,377
    Pross said:

    Why is it that no matter what way the wind is blowing and which side off the BBQ I stand the smoke always follows me?

    You create wind eddies (sp?), which will tend to be slightly lower pressure than the surrounding air. Maybe.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,417
    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Pross said:

    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?

    Because it wasn’t about the male gaze it was just the sheer sporting thrill of scoring the winner in the final.

    She didn’t give a sh!t about what it looked like like most women would about what it looked like running around in your bra.

    Nor should she, in context.
  • Pross said:

    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?

    Because it wasn’t about the male gaze it was just the sheer sporting thrill of scoring the winner in the final.

    She didn’t give a sh!t about what it looked like like most women would about what it looked like running around in your bra.

    Nor should she, in context.
    I was more impressed that she had the confidence/arrogance to plan her celebration for scoring the winning goal in a final.

    I did think they would be a great case study for you to use to help Boomers understand the importance of optics when it comes to diversity but them winning has chopped that thought off at the knees.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 16,998
    Pross said:

    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?

    Mia Hamm did it 23 years ago. Not sure what the fuss is all about.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,186
    I didn't realise that there was a fuss.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,633
    pblakeney said:

    I didn't realise that there was a fuss.

    Same
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,633

    Pross said:

    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?

    Because it wasn’t about the male gaze it was just the sheer sporting thrill of scoring the winner in the final.

    She didn’t give a sh!t about what it looked like like most women would about what it looked like running around in your bra.

    Nor should she, in context.
    How dare you assert what "most women" would think.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Whatever.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,205
    edited August 2022

    Pross said:

    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?

    Because it wasn’t about the male gaze it was just the sheer sporting thrill of scoring the winner in the final.

    She didn’t give a sh!t about what it looked like like most women would about what it looked like running around in your bra.

    Nor should she, in context.
    I agree and I don't think it was a planned celebration, I think it was off the cuff and besides, it was her first international goal. I think if it was my first international goal that effectively won the tournament, I would be going a bit silly.

    When they stormed the press room and sang, it made me smile - they really knew how to party, celebrate and act in a way that I think was acceptable. If it were men, I dunno.

    However, using the chant/song 'football's coming home' is a bit far fetched - it was the Euro's not the WC final.
    Also - more bollox with the press: '...they have broke the duck having won an international 56 years ago...'. No, hang on - I cannot merge the two events, it is a success in singularity and nothing to do with what male teams have achieved/not achieved previously.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,990
    Waiting to see if VAR was going to take a look before getting going with the celebration surely made it a bit obvious it wasn't just an unthinking instinctive thing. Which makes it a bit of a silly thing to be yellow carded for.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?

    Because it wasn’t about the male gaze it was just the sheer sporting thrill of scoring the winner in the final.

    She didn’t give a sh!t about what it looked like like most women would about what it looked like running around in your bra.

    Nor should she, in context.
    I agree and I don't think it was a planned celebration, I think it was off the cuff and besides, it was her first international goal. I think if it was my first international goal that effectively won the tournament, I would be going a bit silly.

    When they stormed the press room and sang, it made me smile - they really knew how to party, celebrate and act in a way that I think was acceptable. If it were men, I dunno.

    However, using the chant/song 'football's coming home' is a bit far fetched - it was the Euro's not the WC final.
    Also - more bollox with the press: '...they have broke the duck having won an international 56 years ago...'. No, hang on - I cannot merge the two events, it is a success in singularity and nothing to do with what male teams have achieved/not achieved previously.
    Same here. All credit to them. But, the womens competition is not the mens competition. I also think it does a dis-service to the women to keep attaching them to the mens game.

    The views I'm hearing in the press are all about bringing the womens game into line with the mens game (and the funding obviously). I tend to think they're selling themselves short on organisation whilst being unrealistic about funding. True equality would be having the confidence to build their own structures based on what they need to be for the womens game in the year 2022 onwards.
    Mens football is hamstrung by traditional power and league structures that have only been morphed by the PL taking over the top tier. The direction has been driven by money and vested interests rather than competition or sustainability.
    If you were designing a league from the bottom up, you wouldn't get the mens league structure IMHO.

    However, moneywise, more will come but a packed Wembley for an international tournament is not the same as grass roots support. Olympic athletics packed out London but you don't see many well attended track meets in the UK.
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,540

    Waiting to see if VAR was going to take a look before getting going with the celebration surely made it a bit obvious it wasn't just an unthinking instinctive thing. Which makes it a bit of a silly thing to be yellow carded for.

    I think she was checking to see that she had not been booked as well . . . if she had, a second yellow for taking her jersey off would have seen her sent off.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,990

    Waiting to see if VAR was going to take a look before getting going with the celebration surely made it a bit obvious it wasn't just an unthinking instinctive thing. Which makes it a bit of a silly thing to be yellow carded for.

    I think she was checking to see that she had not been booked as well . . . if she had, a second yellow for taking her jersey off would have seen her sent off.
    I don't think so, but either way, going through the thought process of "is it OK for me to have a moment of total abandon" doesn't really work, does it?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,186

    Waiting to see if VAR was going to take a look before getting going with the celebration surely made it a bit obvious it wasn't just an unthinking instinctive thing. Which makes it a bit of a silly thing to be yellow carded for.

    I think she was checking to see that she had not been booked as well . . . if she had, a second yellow for taking her jersey off would have seen her sent off.
    I don't think so, but either way, going through the thought process of "is it OK for me to have a moment of total abandon" doesn't really work, does it?
    "Has the goal been given?" does though.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited August 2022
    The booking for taking your shirt in celebration is pure pure commercialism - the shirt sponsors want their logo in the shot.

    That’s it.

    Irony of course is in the shot here, the shirt sponsor also sponsors the bra...
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,990
    pblakeney said:

    Waiting to see if VAR was going to take a look before getting going with the celebration surely made it a bit obvious it wasn't just an unthinking instinctive thing. Which makes it a bit of a silly thing to be yellow carded for.

    I think she was checking to see that she had not been booked as well . . . if she had, a second yellow for taking her jersey off would have seen her sent off.
    I don't think so, but either way, going through the thought process of "is it OK for me to have a moment of total abandon" doesn't really work, does it?
    "Has the goal been given?" does though.
    I'm not convinced by someone being so overcome by emotion that they start to take their top off, put it back on while they check that the goal's been given, then carry on. I guess she calculated it was worth a yellow card to her, and I'm not saying she was wrong.
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,540

    Waiting to see if VAR was going to take a look before getting going with the celebration surely made it a bit obvious it wasn't just an unthinking instinctive thing. Which makes it a bit of a silly thing to be yellow carded for.

    I think she was checking to see that she had not been booked as well . . . if she had, a second yellow for taking her jersey off would have seen her sent off.
    I don't think so, but either way, going through the thought process of "is it OK for me to have a moment of total abandon" doesn't really work, does it?
    . . . perhaps see it as checking I have a green light for a moment of total abandon? Either way, not quite spontaneous . . . but none the less joyous for that
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 16,998

    There was probably a logo on the "why always me" base layer, as well. We should have seen it for what it was, pure commercialism.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,417

    Pross said:

    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?

    Because it wasn’t about the male gaze it was just the sheer sporting thrill of scoring the winner in the final.

    She didn’t give a sh!t about what it looked like like most women would about what it looked like running around in your bra.

    Nor should she, in context.
    But as I say, literally everyone taking part in an athletics event at the Commonwealth Games will be wearing a top like that. Niewiadoma had her top fully unzipped with a sports bra beneath all last week at the Tour. I'm genuinely amazed it was even worthy of comment let alone considered empowering in some way.

    The first I heard about it was from a colleague (in his 50s) who seemed mesmerised as though he hadn't seen a woman's midriff before.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,417
    pblakeney said:

    I didn't realise that there was a fuss.

    It was worthy of a 5-10 minute discussion and interview on BBC Breakfast with the photographer who captured the image.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,417
    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Why is there all this fuss about the celebration of England's winning goal at the Euros and talk of how Kelly is empowering women? Is it simply because she whipped off her football shirt leaving her dressed much as many women would go to the gym or how most athletes at the Commonwealth games will be dressed (although they'll have much shorter shorts) or am I missing something?

    Because it wasn’t about the male gaze it was just the sheer sporting thrill of scoring the winner in the final.

    She didn’t give a sh!t about what it looked like like most women would about what it looked like running around in your bra.

    Nor should she, in context.
    I agree and I don't think it was a planned celebration, I think it was off the cuff and besides, it was her first international goal. I think if it was my first international goal that effectively won the tournament, I would be going a bit silly.

    When they stormed the press room and sang, it made me smile - they really knew how to party, celebrate and act in a way that I think was acceptable. If it were men, I dunno.

    However, using the chant/song 'football's coming home' is a bit far fetched - it was the Euro's not the WC final.
    Also - more bollox with the press: '...they have broke the duck having won an international 56 years ago...'. No, hang on - I cannot merge the two events, it is a success in singularity and nothing to do with what male teams have achieved/not achieved previously.
    Um, that song was first written for the (men's) home Euros in 1996 so someone needs to explain this to Baddiel & Skinner.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,990
    edited August 2022
    This is brilliant. Player (on a yellow already) takes off his shirt to celebrate scoring a penalty, to reveal... he's wearing another exactly the same shirt underneath.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2aqALwGgbw