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  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 16,818
    orraloon said:

    Belgian driver?

    He didn’t go so far as to introduce himself. 😉
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  • elbowlohelbowloh Posts: 7,078
    Just seen one of those weekly magazine things where you get a collectable or a bit of model you build up each week.

    This one was for Eddie Stobart.

    First issue is £1.99, fair enough, then £8 a week.

    140 issues!

    So not only does it cost £1114 to build a model of an articulated lorry, but surely there can't be enough history or Eddie Stobart to fill 140 issues of a magazine.

    Who buys this stuff? Do they ever finish it?
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  • mully79mully79 Posts: 471
    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 16,818
    elbowloh said:



    Who buys this stuff? Do they ever finish it?

    I seem to remember someone reporting that a complete "something or other" was for sale in Harrods for half the price of the magazine version. There be idiots out there.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 29,622
    Am I the only one who hears a Manc accent anytime R Kelly gets mentioned?
  • Pross said:

    Am I the only one who hears a Manc accent anytime R Kelly gets mentioned?

    I always think Cilla Black is introducing him.
  • womackwomack Posts: 484
    mully79 said:

    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?


    Funnily enough I asked the same question on here a couple of weeks back and the concencous was yes.
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,978
    mully79 said:

    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?


    This is an interesting concept. Noise yeh, air quality... not so sure.

    Where was this?
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  • ProssPross Posts: 29,622
    Ben6899 said:

    mully79 said:

    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?


    This is an interesting concept. Noise yeh, air quality... not so sure.

    Where was this?
    They got them all over Wales now (they're 50mph though not 70mph). I assume there's science behind it.
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,978
    Pross said:

    Ben6899 said:

    mully79 said:

    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?


    This is an interesting concept. Noise yeh, air quality... not so sure.

    Where was this?
    They got them all over Wales now (they're 50mph though not 70mph). I assume there's science behind it.

    The difference must be miniscule, and then offset by accelerating/decelerating.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,380 Lives Here
    mully79 said:

    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?

    The why for laws is fairly irrelevant usually, isn't it?
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,978
    edited 28 September
    Also depends how it's posted. The max speed signs you often see for sharp curves... they're not enforceable.




    Not by criminal laws anyway... physics laws might have something to say (or civil, if you end up in someone's conservatory).
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  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 20,765
    Ben6899 said:

    Pross said:

    Ben6899 said:

    mully79 said:

    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?


    This is an interesting concept. Noise yeh, air quality... not so sure.

    Where was this?
    They got them all over Wales now (they're 50mph though not 70mph). I assume there's science behind it.

    The difference must be miniscule, and then offset by accelerating/decelerating.
    15% fuel saving against the current 70+mph. There's a 6% saving in just sticking to the speed limit.

    https://www.licencebureau.co.uk/reducing-maximum-speed-to-60mph-reduces-fuel-consumption-by-10/
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  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,978
    rjsterry said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Pross said:

    Ben6899 said:

    mully79 said:

    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?


    This is an interesting concept. Noise yeh, air quality... not so sure.

    Where was this?
    They got them all over Wales now (they're 50mph though not 70mph). I assume there's science behind it.

    The difference must be miniscule, and then offset by accelerating/decelerating.
    15% fuel saving against the current 70+mph. There's a 6% saving in just sticking to the speed limit.

    https://www.licencebureau.co.uk/reducing-maximum-speed-to-60mph-reduces-fuel-consumption-by-10/

    I'll admit I haven't read the article, but I always thought the saving would be less without enforcing the reduced speed limit for significant and continuous stretches of motorway... otherwise there is the decelerating and accelerating to take into account.
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  • monkimarkmonkimark Posts: 812
    I would have thought you get less accelerating and decelerating in a 50mph limit because the speed difference between the fast and slow vehicles would be less.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,380 Lives Here
    isn't air resistance square to the speed?
  • isn't air resistance square to the speed?

    not if you are drafting
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,978
    monkimark said:

    I would have thought you get less accelerating and decelerating in a 50mph limit because the speed difference between the fast and slow vehicles would be less.


    You've seen how people drive on motorways, right?

    As far as I can tell, most do whatever speed they fancy until they see a repeater sign and panic about getting caught over the limit.
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  • pangolinpangolin Posts: 3,969
    Ben6899 said:

    monkimark said:

    I would have thought you get less accelerating and decelerating in a 50mph limit because the speed difference between the fast and slow vehicles would be less.


    You've seen how people drive on motorways, right?

    As far as I can tell, most do whatever speed they fancy until they see a repeater sign and panic about getting caught over the limit.
    Much as I dislike the long 50 zones (M4 past Reading springs to mind), they do seem to be very smooth if they are fairly long. If they are short then sure, you're absolutely right.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,380 Lives Here
    Ben6899 said:

    monkimark said:

    I would have thought you get less accelerating and decelerating in a 50mph limit because the speed difference between the fast and slow vehicles would be less.


    You've seen how people drive on motorways, right?

    As far as I can tell, most do whatever speed they fancy until they see a repeater sign and panic about getting caught over the limit.
    Eventually we will get to average speed cameras on any road which has sliproads.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 16,818

    Ben6899 said:

    monkimark said:

    I would have thought you get less accelerating and decelerating in a 50mph limit because the speed difference between the fast and slow vehicles would be less.


    You've seen how people drive on motorways, right?

    As far as I can tell, most do whatever speed they fancy until they see a repeater sign and panic about getting caught over the limit.
    Eventually we will get to average speed cameras on any road which has sliproads.
    Eventually we will get to black boxes, then autonomous driving.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 29,622
    Ben6899 said:

    Also depends how it's posted. The max speed signs you often see for sharp curves... they're not enforceable.




    Not by criminal laws anyway... physics laws might have something to say (or civil, if you end up in someone's conservatory).

    That's just an advisory sign though, the same as a matrix sign on the motorway (excluding the actual red circle regulatory ones). Theoretically you could get stopped for driving without due care and attention if you ignore them and it could be used against you if you ignore them and crash.
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,978
    Pross said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Also depends how it's posted. The max speed signs you often see for sharp curves... they're not enforceable.




    Not by criminal laws anyway... physics laws might have something to say (or civil, if you end up in someone's conservatory).

    That's just an advisory sign though, the same as a matrix sign on the motorway (excluding the actual red circle regulatory ones). Theoretically you could get stopped for driving without due care and attention if you ignore them and it could be used against you if you ignore them and crash.

    Oh totally. It's handy to have a copy of the TSRGD in the glovebox!
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  • ProssPross Posts: 29,622
    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Pross said:

    Ben6899 said:

    mully79 said:

    Would i get summoned for speeding while driving an electric vehicle at 70mph on a motorway with a 60mph limit sign posted for air quality ?


    This is an interesting concept. Noise yeh, air quality... not so sure.

    Where was this?
    They got them all over Wales now (they're 50mph though not 70mph). I assume there's science behind it.

    The difference must be miniscule, and then offset by accelerating/decelerating.
    15% fuel saving against the current 70+mph. There's a 6% saving in just sticking to the speed limit.

    https://www.licencebureau.co.uk/reducing-maximum-speed-to-60mph-reduces-fuel-consumption-by-10/

    I'll admit I haven't read the article, but I always thought the saving would be less without enforcing the reduced speed limit for significant and continuous stretches of motorway... otherwise there is the decelerating and accelerating to take into account.
    The 50mph limit in place around Newport stretches for about 7 or 8 miles so fairly significant although in peak hours doing 50 along there has always been an ambitious hope. The stretches further west on the M4 are a good few miles too and it's all covered by average speed cameras although it was reported on the news yesterday that they are only starting issuing fines from today (a later date for the Newport stretch that hasn't been in operation for so long). The biggest issue is that with all lanes travelling at the same speed it can get difficult to get over from lane 3 when you reach your junction.
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,622
    Oh, and the other issue is you end up with HGVs driving millimetres off your bumper - they seem incapable of understanding you are driving to the limit and as they are able to drive at the same speed they won't give any space so I tend to go in lane 3 out of their way.
  • pangolinpangolin Posts: 3,969
    Every time I am on one of these 50 stretches, the majority will be doing 50 or a hair over (much better adherence than to a 70 limit with normal cameras), and then you'll get the odd person just completely ignoring it going something over 60.

    This always intrigues me.
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  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,978
    pangolin said:

    Every time I am on one of these 50 stretches, the majority will be doing 50 or a hair over (much better adherence than to a 70 limit with normal cameras), and then you'll get the odd person just completely ignoring it going something over 60.

    This always intrigues me.


    They don't understand how average speed cameras work. Is my take.
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  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,978
    Pross said:

    Oh, and the other issue is you end up with HGVs driving millimetres off your bumper - they seem incapable of understanding you are driving to the limit and as they are able to drive at the same speed they won't give any space so I tend to go in lane 3 out of their way.


    Had this - with the HGVs - driving north on Sunday.
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  • Ben6899 said:

    Pross said:

    Oh, and the other issue is you end up with HGVs driving millimetres off your bumper - they seem incapable of understanding you are driving to the limit and as they are able to drive at the same speed they won't give any space so I tend to go in lane 3 out of their way.


    Had this - with the HGVs - driving north on Sunday.
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