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At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
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If I had a non-compliant car, I definitely wouldn't park at Heathrow with one of those concierge parking firms now...Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
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(that was my rather long winded point)surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.0 -
Cannot believe Grant Shapps, aka Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox is now minister of defence.
Poor Ukraine.0 -
that is a shame as I was about to offer to invest in your business venture, targeting people parking at Heathrow in cars between 20 and 50 years old.rick_chasey said:
(that was my rather long winded point)surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.0 -
The risk of being outgunned by a state run Park & Ride is pretty high.surrey_commuter said:
that is a shame as I was about to offer to invest in your business venture, targeting people parking at Heathrow in cars between 20 and 50 years old.rick_chasey said:
(that was my rather long winded point)surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.0 -
One of the few Ministers who understood their brief being replaced by Shapps (and planning on standing down at the next election). Sums up why I no longer vote for them!rick_chasey said:Cannot believe Grant Shapps, aka Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox is now minister of defence.
Poor Ukraine.0 -
Wasn't Wallace the popular one?0
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Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
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I'm one of them but have to admit I don't see a huge amount of cars older than mine on the road these days in my neck of the woods. Even those in their late teens who have just passed their test seem to end up with virtually new cars. I feel like a failureDorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
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How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀0 -
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).0 -
Where are you finding this free parking?!Dorset_Boy said:
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).0 -
Who mentioned free parking?rick_chasey said:
Where are you finding this free parking?!Dorset_Boy said:
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).
I'm just making the point that including Europe's busiest airport within the ULEZ is going to impact quite a lot of people who do not live inside the ULEZ.
But many of those who live or work in London seem oblivious to what goes on outside the M25.
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Train to Kings Cross, train to Heathrow. Very simple.Dorset_Boy said:
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).
You have a choice of trains to the airport, expensive and fast, or cheap and slow.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
A non-trivial risk of it being late so you either run that risk or add 30 mins to the journey time to build in some delay cushion.pblakeney said:
Train to Kings Cross, train to Heathrow. Very simple.Dorset_Boy said:
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).
You have a choice of trains to the airport, expensive and fast, or cheap and slow.0 -
What kind of idiot doesn't factor in chance of delays when heading to the airport? Other than my sister that is.rick_chasey said:
A non-trivial risk of it being late so you either run that risk or add 30 mins to the journey time to build in some delay cushion.pblakeney said:
Train to Kings Cross, train to Heathrow. Very simple.Dorset_Boy said:
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).
You have a choice of trains to the airport, expensive and fast, or cheap and slow.3 -
I allow 3 hours at the airport even if driving to cover just that eventuality. There are worse ways to spend an extra hour or so. And, we are not all as unlucky as you. #touchwoodrick_chasey said:
A non-trivial risk of it being late so you either run that risk or add 30 mins to the journey time to build in some delay cushion.pblakeney said:
Train to Kings Cross, train to Heathrow. Very simple.Dorset_Boy said:
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).
You have a choice of trains to the airport, expensive and fast, or cheap and slow.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
There's delays and delays.veronese68 said:
What kind of idiot doesn't factor in chance of delays when heading to the airport? Other than my sister that is.rick_chasey said:
A non-trivial risk of it being late so you either run that risk or add 30 mins to the journey time to build in some delay cushion.pblakeney said:
Train to Kings Cross, train to Heathrow. Very simple.Dorset_Boy said:
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).
You have a choice of trains to the airport, expensive and fast, or cheap and slow.
For example, work trip to Paris. So cambridge > Kings X, then cross the road to St Pancras to Eurostar it to the City of Light.
Decided to take the train an hour earlier than the one timetabled to get me on time to St Pancras.
Just as well, the weekly standard power failure occurred, shutting the whole line down. Luckily I had made it to Finsbury park by then so I could then schelp off onto the tube and get to the station that way. Had I been on any later train it would have been game over / squabbling over an expensive taxi.
That then was also delayed by 20 mins, so I ended up arriving *just in time* to get the Eurostar.
Needing the full 2 hours for what should be a 50 minute journey.0 -
What I've learned from this thread and similar is, don't move to Cambridge.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
I didn't realise all trains from all over the country now only go to Kings Cross. No wonder Rick suffers delays and cancellations on his journeys.pblakeney said:
Train to Kings Cross, train to Heathrow. Very simple.Dorset_Boy said:
Have you ever tried getting to Heathrow by public transport from outside London?surrey_commuter said:
How many of them drive to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
Strangely enough, there are quite a few people outside of the M25 with diesels registered before 2015, but then being a metropolitan you of course know better.....surrey_commuter said:
At least one of you is a sensible chap but these two posts show the collective madness that ULEZ has caused.rick_chasey said:
An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.
How many people travelling to Heathrow do you think will be impacted by this?
However: Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered as new with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001. Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA as new after September 2015.
and they aren't being given a bung to change their car.
Plus £12 on the cost of a flight is insignificant.
Even then they could probably offset it against tax to boost their farming subsidies 😀
£12 on a £120 flight is not insignificant. and anyway, it would be £25 (2 x £12.50).
You have a choice of trains to the airport, expensive and fast, or cheap and slow.
Not to mention the premium that is charged if you go via a central London terminus.
Must be fun transporting a bike box or two across the London transport network!
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Oxford to Heathrow bus £31.50 return. 90 minutes, runs every 20 minutes.0
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I don't know if she's been misquoted or misrepresented, but apparently Penny Mourdant is call for the reintroduction of National Service for the over 16s.
Which reminds me. In my youth, the UK pensioner set (*) was regularly calling for the reintroduction of National Service to cure the nation's ills. I remember at the time fervently hoping that this wouldn't be the case as I didn't think I had the mindset to cope with being put through "square bashing" etc. by a Sergeant Major who would undoubtedly take issue with my accent, but now I wonder if it's symptomatic of the pensioner set's desire for a return to an older, simpler era where everything was fine, that in all reality didn't exist, with "stopping boats" and/or ditching human rights (**) being the latest example of this. (Reintroducing the Death Penalty and leaving the EU being other symptoms of this uncurable malaise.)
(*) Or at least the faction of it that reads the Mail / Express etc.
(**) Obviously only for those that don't deserve them, which would of course exclude the pensioner set.0 -
So just need to find a way to Oxford then. What about the other 95% of the country?kingstongraham said:Oxford to Heathrow bus £31.50 return. 90 minutes, runs every 20 minutes.
12 miles to nearest station, no busses. Couple of train changes, or goodness knows how many bus changes. Humping the luggage around at the same time.
Hmm, that would be really convenient.
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£12.50 is about 10% of the cheapest weekly Heathrow parking charge isn't it? I don't think it is going to cause anyone to change their holiday plans.
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You really want me to search for National Express from other parts of the country to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
So just need to find a way to Oxford then. What about the other 95% of the country?kingstongraham said:Oxford to Heathrow bus £31.50 return. 90 minutes, runs every 20 minutes.
12 miles to nearest station, no busses. Couple of train changes, or goodness knows how many bus changes. Humping the luggage around at the same time.
Hmm, that would be really convenient.
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You give her way too much credit...wallace_and_gromit said:I don't know if she's been misquoted or misrepresented.
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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It seems that it isn't National Service like back in the 'good old days' and that the scheme wouldn't be compulsory. Just clickbait headlines from the usual outlets. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/penny-mordaunt-national-service/wallace_and_gromit said:I don't know if she's been misquoted or misrepresented, but apparently Penny Mourdant is call for the reintroduction of National Service for the over 16s.
Which reminds me. In my youth, the UK pensioner set (*) was regularly calling for the reintroduction of National Service to cure the nation's ills. I remember at the time fervently hoping that this wouldn't be the case as I didn't think I had the mindset to cope with being put through "square bashing" etc. by a Sergeant Major who would undoubtedly take issue with my accent, but now I wonder if it's symptomatic of the pensioner set's desire for a return to an older, simpler era where everything was fine, that in all reality didn't exist, with "stopping boats" and/or ditching human rights (**) being the latest example of this. (Reintroducing the Death Penalty and leaving the EU being other symptoms of this uncurable malaise.)
(*) Or at least the faction of it that reads the Mail / Express etc.
(**) Obviously only for those that don't deserve them, which would of course exclude the pensioner set.
Edit - It feels more like an expansion of the volunteering element of the DOE scheme from what I've read.0 -
You can if you want, but say Salisbury to LHR is over 4 hours with a change, and then you'd still need to get to Salisbury (25 miles away with 2 changes minimum to get there, if the times tied up). Driving is 100-120 minutes unless the M25 is jammed.kingstongraham said:
You really want me to search for National Express from other parts of the country to Heathrow?Dorset_Boy said:
So just need to find a way to Oxford then. What about the other 95% of the country?kingstongraham said:Oxford to Heathrow bus £31.50 return. 90 minutes, runs every 20 minutes.
12 miles to nearest station, no busses. Couple of train changes, or goodness knows how many bus changes. Humping the luggage around at the same time.
Hmm, that would be really convenient.
Plenty of smaller towns not served, so car is really the only way.
It does all make the regional airports more attractive, even if you have to pay extra on the airlines that fly from those airports if taking sports equipment.
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How can you doubt her? She carried the sword on Coronation Day in a way that no-one had for 70 odd years.ddraver said:
You give her way too much credit...wallace_and_gromit said:I don't know if she's been misquoted or misrepresented.
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