LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!
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Pross said:
The whole expectation of being given a place peerage purely because she was a Boris sycophant is bizarre. What has she actually done in her political career?
It did suggest an epic sense of entitlement and lack of self-awareness, though I suspect that was what Johnson is good at engendering in the people who faithfully supported him through thick and thick.0 -
Maybe right on the expectation of continued support but ultimately the electorate vote for a Party and the Party decides on its leader. They ditched him because they felt he was losing them popularity but failed to find anyone better (which took some doing).TheBigBean said:She's right about this.
We cannot simply disregard the democratic choice of the electorate, remove both the Prime Minister and the manifesto commitments they voted for and then expect to return to the people in the hope that they will continue to unquestioningly support us.0 -
Blimey. To mis-quite Churchill: “An immodest woman with much to be modest about”.0
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I mean, they can and do.TheBigBean said:She's right about this.
We cannot simply disregard the democratic choice of the electorate, remove both the Prime Minister and the manifesto commitments they voted for and then expect to return to the people in the hope that they will continue to unquestioningly support us.
2 party system innit0 -
I think she isn't necessarily correct about the PM part, but she is about the manifesto part.Pross said:
Maybe right on the expectation of continued support but ultimately the electorate vote for a Party and the Party decides on its leader. They ditched him because they felt he was losing them popularity but failed to find anyone better (which took some doing).TheBigBean said:She's right about this.
We cannot simply disregard the democratic choice of the electorate, remove both the Prime Minister and the manifesto commitments they voted for and then expect to return to the people in the hope that they will continue to unquestioningly support us.
Truss acting like she suddenly had a mandate for her ideas, rather than Boris's manifesto, cannot get enough criticism.0 -
Thanks. It was what I meant.Jezyboy said:
I think she isn't necessarily correct about the PM part, but she is about the manifesto part.Pross said:
Maybe right on the expectation of continued support but ultimately the electorate vote for a Party and the Party decides on its leader. They ditched him because they felt he was losing them popularity but failed to find anyone better (which took some doing).TheBigBean said:She's right about this.
We cannot simply disregard the democratic choice of the electorate, remove both the Prime Minister and the manifesto commitments they voted for and then expect to return to the people in the hope that they will continue to unquestioningly support us.
Truss acting like she suddenly had a mandate for her ideas, rather than Boris's manifesto, cannot get enough criticism.0 -
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJGBmwRq/
Someone explaining why Tory immigration policy is very pro “slaver”
Had no idea that anyone trafficked does not get protection as a victim if they have come through the UK via irregular means, including those who were trafficked against their will.
That’s beyond appalling.
Visas for seasonal work are so restrictive it makes it very easy for an abusive situations etc0 -
It was strongly criticised when the legislation was proposed.rick_chasey said:https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJGBmwRq/
Someone explaining why Tory immigration policy is very pro “slaver”
Had no idea that anyone trafficked does not get protection as a victim if they have come through the UK via irregular means, including those who were trafficked against their will.
That’s beyond appalling.
Visas for seasonal work are so restrictive it makes it very easy for an abusive situations etc0 -
rick_chasey said:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJGBmwRq/
Someone explaining why Tory immigration policy is very pro “slaver”
Had no idea that anyone trafficked does not get protection as a victim if they have come through the UK via irregular means, including those who were trafficked against their will.
That’s beyond appalling.
Visas for seasonal work are so restrictive it makes it very easy for an abusive situations etc
Pretty sure that that was brought up in Parliament, and the criticism was brushed off (IIRC). It's pretty obvious that the Tories aren't actually interested in any detail, or in solving this problem. They look on these people as statistics from which they can gain electoral advantage, either at the next election ("Letting them all in!") or the one after that ("Haven't solved the problem!")0 -
Including by theresa may, I think, who then didn't vote against it.TheBigBean said:
It was strongly criticised when the legislation was proposed.rick_chasey said:https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJGBmwRq/
Someone explaining why Tory immigration policy is very pro “slaver”
Had no idea that anyone trafficked does not get protection as a victim if they have come through the UK via irregular means, including those who were trafficked against their will.
That’s beyond appalling.
Visas for seasonal work are so restrictive it makes it very easy for an abusive situations etc0 -
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"Sorry, bit slow at the back"rick_chasey said:Not really sure what to do with those responses other than “ok”?
"Yeah, but now it's on Tik Tok"
Are other alternatives.0 -
Resolve to read this thread more closely?rick_chasey said:Not really sure what to do with those responses other than “ok”?
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Nads even lost the speccie...
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/nadine-dorries-cant-blame-sunak-for-bringing-down-boris/We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I think predicting it will happen and it actually happening are two separate things.TheBigBean said:
"Sorry, bit slow at the back"rick_chasey said:Not really sure what to do with those responses other than “ok”?
"Yeah, but now it's on Tik Tok"
Are other alternatives.0 -
OKrick_chasey said:
I think predicting it will happen and it actually happening are two separate things.TheBigBean said:
"Sorry, bit slow at the back"rick_chasey said:Not really sure what to do with those responses other than “ok”?
"Yeah, but now it's on Tik Tok"
Are other alternatives.0 -
Comes as less of a surprise to those who thought it was going to happen though.rick_chasey said:
I think predicting it will happen and it actually happening are two separate things.TheBigBean said:
"Sorry, bit slow at the back"rick_chasey said:Not really sure what to do with those responses other than “ok”?
"Yeah, but now it's on Tik Tok"
Are other alternatives.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Good to hear Braverman eagerly reclaiming the stupidity crown that had briefly slipped from her grasp over the weekend.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
https://x.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1695491664993821176?s=46&t=Q7O5dnx-0MXQv9qE3vz1vg
Guess we’ll hear a lot more about boats etc0 -
Kent County Council certainly aren't keeping quiet about the problem.
https://kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/we-re-so-overwhelmed-by-asylum-seekers-we-can-t-care-for-ke-292377/"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
When they have presided over this becoming what they claim is such a massive issue through their own incompetence (and messaging), I don't understand why the Conservatives think it's a winner for them.0
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You know what people hate? Birds isn't it.
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Misogynists!kingstongraham said:You know what people hate? Birds isn't it.
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Might endear them to the next government though.rick_chasey said:S'not gonna help, RSPB.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Elected politician seems to think that unpopular policies (even ones his party pushed) shouldn't be overturned at the ballot box. How very Trumpian.
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I assume he's going to sue?briantrumpet said:Elected politician seems to think that unpopular policies (even ones his party pushed) shouldn't be overturned at the ballot box. How very Trumpian.
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I recall Duncan Smith being keen on cameras to solve the Irish Border Brexit dilemma“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.0
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An obvious arbitrage opportunity for any budding car park entrepreneur.Dorset_Boy said:Picked up that Heathrow is now inside the ULEZ. That's going to impact a fair number of folks from outside London, and smacks somewhat of the stretch of road in Bristol that has conveniently been left in their LEZ to catch people out on the way to their airport.
Set up a car park just outside the ULEZ, with regular coaches to drop them off at the airport.
If that's not economical, then it's proof that the ULEZ cost isn't all that.0
