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Workshops?rjsterry said:
You'll find it's more difficult to help with homework, etc. if you haven't been to the meetings, workshops, and so on. Teaching, unsurprisingly has moved on a great deal since your or my time at school.rick_chasey said:
I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard.rjsterry said:
This. You need to play along and if you really want to change stuff join the governors.TheBigBean said:
You're being a bit naïve about how independently she'll be able to do it. Maybe you will be lucky.rick_chasey said:Yes, I am resigned to that.
I'm not doing the homework, she is. I can help obviously. I like teaching my own kid. I am also not above cheating the homework system if it's objectively ridiculous.
Absolutely no problem teaching kids to think for themselves and work the system in their favour.
The school work is fine; I was a straight A student so I can help with the content but me and my wife know she will do the heavy lifting with the school itself and I’ll be backup.
Lol half the parents can’t speak English, good luck to the teachers if they want to try that.
Where do you think I’m sending them? To the local private school?!
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Meanwhile back to ULEZ...
(Some Italians are about to find out what being a refugee is like too...)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver said:
Do you know what a Fronted Adverbial is RC?
(I don't know if it should have capitals but RC Jr. will need to... )
Really, don't get me started on 'fronted adverbials' and the madness of the focus on memorising arbitrary labels.0 -
I have an engineering degree, my wife has 2 first class degrees in English.
The maths and English for primary school level required us to both brush up on how it is done, what the terminology is etc.0 -
Lol yeah that’s English language stuff right? A phrase or a part of a sentence that modifies the main sentence.ddraver said:Do you know what a Fronted Adverbial is RC?
(I don't know if it should have capitals but RC Jr. will need to... )
Before breakfast, <(frontal adverbial) Rick tried but failed to take a non-IBS style sh!t.
Or; begrudgingly, Rick traipsed back to the school his daughter went to.0 -
" I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard."rick_chasey said:
Workshops?rjsterry said:
You'll find it's more difficult to help with homework, etc. if you haven't been to the meetings, workshops, and so on. Teaching, unsurprisingly has moved on a great deal since your or my time at school.rick_chasey said:
I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard.rjsterry said:
This. You need to play along and if you really want to change stuff join the governors.TheBigBean said:
You're being a bit naïve about how independently she'll be able to do it. Maybe you will be lucky.rick_chasey said:Yes, I am resigned to that.
I'm not doing the homework, she is. I can help obviously. I like teaching my own kid. I am also not above cheating the homework system if it's objectively ridiculous.
Absolutely no problem teaching kids to think for themselves and work the system in their favour.
The school work is fine; I was a straight A student so I can help with the content but me and my wife know she will do the heavy lifting with the school itself and I’ll be backup.
Lol half the parents can’t speak English, good luck to the teachers if they want to try that.
Where do you think I’m sending them? To the local private school?!
You need to apply this not just think it is true. State schools invite parents in periodically to learn stuff. The reason is that most six year olds know what a split diagraph is whereas most adults don't. You can disagree with the teaching methods, but that is the current approach.
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Also, I never really have a problem with the actual teaching that goes on. Just everything else.0
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Sounds like you might have to at this rate.rick_chasey said:
Workshops?rjsterry said:
You'll find it's more difficult to help with homework, etc. if you haven't been to the meetings, workshops, and so on. Teaching, unsurprisingly has moved on a great deal since your or my time at school.rick_chasey said:
I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard.rjsterry said:
This. You need to play along and if you really want to change stuff join the governors.TheBigBean said:
You're being a bit naïve about how independently she'll be able to do it. Maybe you will be lucky.rick_chasey said:Yes, I am resigned to that.
I'm not doing the homework, she is. I can help obviously. I like teaching my own kid. I am also not above cheating the homework system if it's objectively ridiculous.
Absolutely no problem teaching kids to think for themselves and work the system in their favour.
The school work is fine; I was a straight A student so I can help with the content but me and my wife know she will do the heavy lifting with the school itself and I’ll be backup.
Lol half the parents can’t speak English, good luck to the teachers if they want to try that.
Where do you think I’m sending them? To the local private school?!"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I visited my BFFs recently and there was a word to do with learning reading (began with p, similar to annunciation, or emphasis) that stumped 3 adults with...8 degrees between us!TheBigBean said:
" I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard."rick_chasey said:
Workshops?rjsterry said:
You'll find it's more difficult to help with homework, etc. if you haven't been to the meetings, workshops, and so on. Teaching, unsurprisingly has moved on a great deal since your or my time at school.rick_chasey said:
I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard.rjsterry said:
This. You need to play along and if you really want to change stuff join the governors.TheBigBean said:
You're being a bit naïve about how independently she'll be able to do it. Maybe you will be lucky.rick_chasey said:Yes, I am resigned to that.
I'm not doing the homework, she is. I can help obviously. I like teaching my own kid. I am also not above cheating the homework system if it's objectively ridiculous.
Absolutely no problem teaching kids to think for themselves and work the system in their favour.
The school work is fine; I was a straight A student so I can help with the content but me and my wife know she will do the heavy lifting with the school itself and I’ll be backup.
Lol half the parents can’t speak English, good luck to the teachers if they want to try that.
Where do you think I’m sending them? To the local private school?!
You need to apply this not just think it is true. State schools invite parents in periodically to learn stuff. The reason is that most six year olds know what a split diagraph is whereas most adults don't. You can disagree with the teaching methods, but that is the current approach.
Their 4-year-old daughter knew it and what it meant though...
It is a different world.We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Phonetics?ddraver said:
I visited my BFFs recently and there was a word to do with learning reading (began with p, similar to annunciation, or emphasis) that stumped 3 adults with...8 degrees between us!TheBigBean said:
" I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard."rick_chasey said:
Workshops?rjsterry said:
You'll find it's more difficult to help with homework, etc. if you haven't been to the meetings, workshops, and so on. Teaching, unsurprisingly has moved on a great deal since your or my time at school.rick_chasey said:
I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard.rjsterry said:
This. You need to play along and if you really want to change stuff join the governors.TheBigBean said:
You're being a bit naïve about how independently she'll be able to do it. Maybe you will be lucky.rick_chasey said:Yes, I am resigned to that.
I'm not doing the homework, she is. I can help obviously. I like teaching my own kid. I am also not above cheating the homework system if it's objectively ridiculous.
Absolutely no problem teaching kids to think for themselves and work the system in their favour.
The school work is fine; I was a straight A student so I can help with the content but me and my wife know she will do the heavy lifting with the school itself and I’ll be backup.
Lol half the parents can’t speak English, good luck to the teachers if they want to try that.
Where do you think I’m sending them? To the local private school?!
You need to apply this not just think it is true. State schools invite parents in periodically to learn stuff. The reason is that most six year olds know what a split diagraph is whereas most adults don't. You can disagree with the teaching methods, but that is the current approach.
Their 4-year-old daughter knew it and what it meant though...
It is a different world.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Phoneme would be my guess.0
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You lot need to go some of these parent workshops. There is a vast array of pointless words to learn.
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Genuinely, what do they do with parents who don’t speak English?TheBigBean said:
" I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard."rick_chasey said:
Workshops?rjsterry said:
You'll find it's more difficult to help with homework, etc. if you haven't been to the meetings, workshops, and so on. Teaching, unsurprisingly has moved on a great deal since your or my time at school.rick_chasey said:
I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard.rjsterry said:
This. You need to play along and if you really want to change stuff join the governors.TheBigBean said:
You're being a bit naïve about how independently she'll be able to do it. Maybe you will be lucky.rick_chasey said:Yes, I am resigned to that.
I'm not doing the homework, she is. I can help obviously. I like teaching my own kid. I am also not above cheating the homework system if it's objectively ridiculous.
Absolutely no problem teaching kids to think for themselves and work the system in their favour.
The school work is fine; I was a straight A student so I can help with the content but me and my wife know she will do the heavy lifting with the school itself and I’ll be backup.
Lol half the parents can’t speak English, good luck to the teachers if they want to try that.
Where do you think I’m sending them? To the local private school?!
You need to apply this not just think it is true. State schools invite parents in periodically to learn stuff. The reason is that most six year olds know what a split diagraph is whereas most adults don't. You can disagree with the teaching methods, but that is the current approach.
It’s not uncommon at the pre school pickup to be the only English speakers there, or at the very least in the minority.
I suspect this’ll change when all the full time nursery kids who stuck with their nursery when they were put in at 1 years old turn up, but it’s at least 1/3rd of the class.
Edit: it’s not hard to look this stuff up.
Here we go, quick google, split digraph is a digraph split by a consonant, eg the an and e in cake.
Digraph is, (clue is in the name) two vowels that combined to make a sound in a word, like ea in leak.
Quadgraph is the same but with the ough sound or other 4 letters.0 -
Nope, none of them.
(I genuinely can't remember it, or as it turns out enough to google it, sorry. It was to do with getting the child to "act" what is read rather than just recognise the words in order.
So...
The dog ate the toast from the table
"Stop", said mumma bear
"Bad dog" said pappa bear
would be read as
STOP!! said mumma bear ,
BAD DOG! said pappa bear )
(turns out I can't remember how to do direct speech neither...)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver said:
Nope, none of them.
(I genuinely can't remember it, or as it turns out enough to google it, sorry. It was to do with getting the child to "act" what is read rather than just recognise the words in order.
So...
The dog ate the toast from the table
"Stop", said mumma bear
"Bad dog" said pappa bear
would be read as
STOP!! said mumma bear ,
BAD DOG! said pappa bear )
(turns out I can't remember how to do direct speech neither...)
I've looked for p*ciation words, and there's nothing that matches your description.0 -
ddraver said:
PROSODY!!!!!!
(Oh man I'm turning Google Search History off! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww!)
I mean, WTF? I'm all for exposing children to ideas that might challenge (and possibly be beyond) their intellect, but...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosody_(linguistics)0 -
I mean...seems like madness doesnt it but we have to accept that it's working.
Now how useful it is to concentrate on it to that level of detail at that age is another question. However, we can be pretty certain that learning anything else without being able to read is a whole lot harder...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I hated helping my kids with maths homework especially. I could tell them the answer and even explain how I worked it out but they would just say “that’s not how you do it”. The methods they used always felt contrived but I think it may have been that I would missed steps because I could multiply in my head due to the way we learned tables parrot fashion.
Geography at secondary level wasn’t so bad. History was a write off unless they did the same small sections that I did.0 -
ddraver said:
I mean...seems like madness doesnt it but we have to accept that it's working.
Now how useful it is to concentrate on it to that level of detail at that age is another question. However, we can be pretty certain that learning anything else without being able to read is a whole lot harder...
OK, I probably need to read this (making sure my voice goes up and down a lot).
https://wisewordsliteracy.com/help-children-read-with-fluency-and-expression/0 -
Biggest thing I found out is that they don't have to do coursework any more. Gove got rid of the lot!
Can't say that writing a science student writing essay, write up, paper etc. for the first time in Year 1 of uni seems like a great idea really, but...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I guess that's an area where (I guess) good bedtime story-telling will have quite a big impact: bringing stories to life by the way they are told.
I used to have a pupil whose mum was a professional story-teller, and I never got to hear her work, which I regret.0 -
ddraver said:
I challenge anyone to read The Gruffalo better than me!
voices and everything...
Probably less problematic than one of the books my mum used to read to us (she read very well too, and brought texts alive.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epaminondas_(children's_story)
And googling that, I've just learnt that his name came from some Greek bloke who best the Spartans.0 -
This is what I mean. Ordinary state primaries will run short evening workshops for parents to explain how they are teaching reading, maths, whatever, because it's not the way you or I were taught.rick_chasey said:
Workshops?rjsterry said:
You'll find it's more difficult to help with homework, etc. if you haven't been to the meetings, workshops, and so on. Teaching, unsurprisingly has moved on a great deal since your or my time at school.rick_chasey said:
I am self aware enough that my own experience of school is not helpful for decision making in this regard.rjsterry said:
This. You need to play along and if you really want to change stuff join the governors.TheBigBean said:
You're being a bit naïve about how independently she'll be able to do it. Maybe you will be lucky.rick_chasey said:Yes, I am resigned to that.
I'm not doing the homework, she is. I can help obviously. I like teaching my own kid. I am also not above cheating the homework system if it's objectively ridiculous.
Absolutely no problem teaching kids to think for themselves and work the system in their favour.
The school work is fine; I was a straight A student so I can help with the content but me and my wife know she will do the heavy lifting with the school itself and I’ll be backup.
Lol half the parents can’t speak English, good luck to the teachers if they want to try that.
Where do you think I’m sending them? To the local private school?!1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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