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GBN were interviewing a 'Surbiton Resident' about a local hotel being commandeered by the Home Office. Only she was actually a full-on conspiracy theorist from Hampshire who likes to get on telly.MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:With regards "Catgate". My mom goes to a coffee morning a few times a week. There are a couple who are regular GB News watchers. They regurgitate all this rubbish and have no interest in fact checking or verifying it. It worries me how many other people pick up on it though and believe it too, without questioning it. Fortunately my mom knows better but a lot of the group (and I am sure this goes on all over the place), just accept this garbage as fact, believing it to be actual journalism.
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GBN were interviewing a 'Surbiton Resident' about a local hotel being commandeered by the Home Office. Only she was actually a full-on conspiracy theorist from Hampshire who likes to get on telly.
I don't know how Ofcom allows them to be called a news channel. If they were classed as 'Light Entertainment' that would be acceptable
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Don’t think the Light Entertainment community would be happy. Its utter dross.MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:GBN were interviewing a 'Surbiton Resident' about a local hotel being commandeered by the Home Office. Only she was actually a full-on conspiracy theorist from Hampshire who likes to get on telly.
I don't know how Ofcom allows them to be called a news channel. If they were classed as 'Light Entertainment' that would be acceptable
Although back in the early days when Mike Oxlong was writing in it was a bit of a laugh.0 -
kingstongraham said:
I'm looking forward to England's Strictest Head Teacher admitting that she might have over-reacted.0 -
Meanwhile Sunak has shown his strength by offering a pay deal that would probably have avoided the strikes if he'd done it months ago.0
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Quite something when Birbalsingh retweets a post from a group which approvingly quoted Hitler in a recent newsletter
You'd have thought that a prominent headteacher would try to avoid such associations...0 -
To absolutely no-one's surprise.
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rjsterry said:
To absolutely no-one's surprise.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/13/parents-in-huw-edwards-case-offered-tens-of-thousands-for-talktv-interview
As I suggested upthread.It's all client media stuff. Murdoch and the Tories hate the BBC. The mother thought she could make some money by selling the story, and certain people were rubbing their hands with glee. They don't care who they destroy, or how they do it.
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At least Dan Wootton has deleted all his tweets for the past week... obviously he might be thinking he'd overstepped the mark, and has done the decent thing.0
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I think it’s more because there are numerous similar allegations against him……allegedly.briantrumpet said:At least Dan Wootton has deleted all his tweets for the past week... obviously he might be thinking he'd overstepped the mark, and has done the decent thing.
He who throws the first stone…..
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skyblueamateur said:
I think it’s more because there are numerous similar allegations against him……allegedly.briantrumpet said:At least Dan Wootton has deleted all his tweets for the past week... obviously he might be thinking he'd overstepped the mark, and has done the decent thing.
He who throws the first stone…..
I probably should have put a whistling emoji after my post. Twitter is having a bit of fun at his expense today.1 -
So they really don't believe in the free market at all.
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I was at lunch with some tax accountants and lawyers the other day and the overwhelming consensus was that a dead easy way to materially increase tax take was to add 1p to alcohol or tobacco duty. IHT and CGT are relatively negligible in the grand scheme of things, IHT is mainly avoidable and even CGT at income tax rates won't really change the deal.0
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I saw a survey of Conservative MPs for Guido Fawkes. About 2/3 thought they were going to *win* the next GE. At the same time I read that cabinet members are looking to move to the back benches so that they don't have to wait 2 years after the GE before taking a new job.briantrumpet said:1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Nope, it's a good ideabriantrumpet said:
https://telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/sweden-ditched-inheritance-tax-business-boom/
And probably a vote winner. As SB says, doesn't raise a huge amount in the scheme of things anyway."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
IHT mitigation is a big part of our revenues so good part of keeping the magic money wheel going round. Keep at income tax levels pls.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, it's a good ideabriantrumpet said:
https://telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/sweden-ditched-inheritance-tax-business-boom/
And probably a vote winner. As SB says, doesn't raise a huge amount in the scheme of things anyway.0 -
Not convinced adding 1p to tobacco tax makes much difference. The current tax is something like 30p per cigarette plus 16.5% of the retail price and raises a total of around £9 or £10 billion from what I can see. There’s around 22 billion cigarettes sold each year so we’d be looking at £220 million of my maths this late on a Friday are right which doesn’t seem like much.shirley_basso said:I was at lunch with some tax accountants and lawyers the other day and the overwhelming consensus was that a dead easy way to materially increase tax take was to add 1p to alcohol or tobacco duty. IHT and CGT are relatively negligible in the grand scheme of things, IHT is mainly avoidable and even CGT at income tax rates won't really change the deal.
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I suppose I can't complain about the complexity of tax planning being a money spinnershirley_basso said:
IHT mitigation is a big part of our revenues so good part of keeping the magic money wheel going round. Keep at income tax levels pls.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, it's a good ideabriantrumpet said:
https://telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/sweden-ditched-inheritance-tax-business-boom/
And probably a vote winner. As SB says, doesn't raise a huge amount in the scheme of things anyway.
but as mentioned in the link above there are good reasons to scrap it. Not that I have any skin in the game as both me and the OH have both inherited without paying a penny. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Let’s tax the f@ck out of working people but let’s give married couples with over 1mill a big tax break. Well done all round.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, it's a good ideabriantrumpet said:
https://telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/sweden-ditched-inheritance-tax-business-boom/
And probably a vote winner. As SB says, doesn't raise a huge amount in the scheme of things anyway.0 -
I 've already explained why it's a good idea for other reasons. The link also shows how it worked in Sweden.rick_chasey said:
Let’s tax the f@ck out of working people but let’s give married couples with over 1mill a big tax break. Well done all round.Stevo_666 said:
Nope, it's a good ideabriantrumpet said:
https://telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/sweden-ditched-inheritance-tax-business-boom/
And probably a vote winner. As SB says, doesn't raise a huge amount in the scheme of things anyway.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Let's also get the amounts in perspective - it raises sweet FA in the larger scheme of things:
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/where-does-government-get-its-money
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Dan Neidle suggesting that if you want to give money away (it would be £7bn for IHT), sort out the cliff-edge rates for those earning £100k
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Not a bad idea. Although as explained above, somtimes giving a sensible tax break increases other tax revenues so the term 'give away' can be over simplifying things.briantrumpet said:Dan Neidle suggesting that if you want to give money away (it would be £7bn for IHT), sort out the cliff-edge rates for those earning £100k
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Dan Neidle has a Twitter thread on IHT today, with some interesting stats. Particularly how few estates actually end up paying IHT: in the constituency with the highest number of taxed estates -Richmond Park - it's just 159 estates. The constituency in 50th place - The Cotswolds - it's 80.Stevo_666 said:Let's also get the amounts in perspective - it raises sweet FA in the larger scheme of things:
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/where-does-government-get-its-money
He also supports lowering the rate and removing exemptions for farms and businesses to flatten the effective rate curve.
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I am liking the cut of his jib - lowering the rate and removing exemptions is always a good idea.rjsterry said:
Dan Neidle has a Twitter thread on IHT today, with some interesting stats. Particularly how few estates actually end up paying IHT: in the constituency with the highest number of taxed estates -Richmond Park - it's just 159 estates. The constituency in 50th place - The Cotswolds - it's 80.Stevo_666 said:Let's also get the amounts in perspective - it raises sweet FA in the larger scheme of things:
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/where-does-government-get-its-money
He also supports lowering the rate and removing exemptions for farms and businesses to flatten the effective rate curve.
Not sure about businesses though, that Sweden eg that SteveO keeps touting most put the gains down to removing barriers to passing on businesses by removing the need to break them up to pay taxes.0 -
it is a growing amount though.Stevo_666 said:Let's also get the amounts in perspective - it raises sweet FA in the larger scheme of things:
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/where-does-government-get-its-money
Far better to make it 20% on everything, that way everybody is in the same boat. Duke of Westminster dies then if his his estate is worth £10bn he pays £2bn, if granny dies with £10k in her post office acct then her relatives pay £2k.0 -
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Just feels so obvious and simple.surrey_commuter said:
it is a growing amount though.Stevo_666 said:Let's also get the amounts in perspective - it raises sweet FA in the larger scheme of things:
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/where-does-government-get-its-money
Far better to make it 20% on everything, that way everybody is in the same boat. Duke of Westminster dies then if his his estate is worth £10bn he pays £2bn, if granny dies with £10k in her post office acct then her relatives pay £2k.0 -
But a flat rate would involve certain VIPs at the top end paying more (see the effective rate curve in DN's thread) so is unlikely to happen.Pross said:
Just feels so obvious and simple.surrey_commuter said:
it is a growing amount though.Stevo_666 said:Let's also get the amounts in perspective - it raises sweet FA in the larger scheme of things:
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/where-does-government-get-its-money
Far better to make it 20% on everything, that way everybody is in the same boat. Duke of Westminster dies then if his his estate is worth £10bn he pays £2bn, if granny dies with £10k in her post office acct then her relatives pay £2k.
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