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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    I don’t really understand the furore tbh. Is it somehow worse because he’s a homosexual? How many sad middle aged fella’s are paying girls on Only Fans for photos.

    As far as I’m aware all people involved are over 16? Very distasteful but worth all the coverage?

    If I have got the wrong end of the stick and he’s a complete wrong un then I apologise. Haven’t given it much attention over the headlines in the Sun and the Mail who utterly despise the BBC.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Sun made out it was illegal (paying for sexual photos is only for over 18s) but it wasn’t and there’s nothing to see other than his own private life which is, according to the rozzers, all legal.

    Meanwhile he’s had to check himself into hospital with mental health problems.

    What a f@cking waste of everyone’s time.

    And the BBC’s response now looks even more madly hysterics than it did.

    What a mess all around. Disgraceful.
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    I saw some ‘gotcha’ kind messages on the Mail site earlier where he was anonymously speaking to someone on Grindr or something. It was absolutely banal but they were making out he was an utter wrong in for using a heart emoji.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    But the police say no criminal offence, so what's the big deal?


    I guess it makes his status as a national treasure a little problematic, but that's about it. At least he got the dead Queenie gig out of the way first.
    Does it? All that's been confirmed is that he is the presenter in question. The police have concluded no investigation needed, so at least part of the Sun's story was not backed up. I think we're all grown up enough to think the news-reading persona is the 'real' him.
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,608
    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    But the police say no criminal offence, so what's the big deal?


    I guess it makes his status as a national treasure a little problematic, but that's about it. At least he got the dead Queenie gig out of the way first.
    Does it? All that's been confirmed is that he is the presenter in question. The police have concluded no investigation needed, so at least part of the Sun's story was not backed up. I think we're all grown up enough to think the news-reading persona is the 'real' him.
    I don't really see a way back from this.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,356
    rick_chasey said:

    Sun made out it was illegal (paying for sexual photos is only for over 18s) but it wasn’t and there’s nothing to see other than his own private life which is, according to the rozzers, all legal.

    Meanwhile he’s had to check himself into hospital with mental health problems.

    What a f@cking waste of everyone’s time.

    And the BBC’s response now looks even more madly hysterics than it did.

    What a mess all around. Disgraceful.

    yep

    plenty of far more important events, but for some reason much of the press seem keen on pushing them off the page, odd that
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    edited July 2023
    rick_chasey said:

    What an industry.

    F@ck up someone’s life for absolutely no reason.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there had been a blackmail attempt by the mother before she went to The Sun. It would be amusing if she found herself under investigation by the police.

    In the meantime Edwards is in hospital being treated for mental health problems.
  • bikes_and_dogs
    bikes_and_dogs Posts: 130
    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    What an industry.

    F@ck up someone’s life for absolutely no reason.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there hadn’t been a blackmail attempt by the mother before she went to The Sun. It would be amusing if she found herself under investigation by the police.

    In the meantime Edwards is in hospital being treated for mental health problems.
    In light of the police stating that they have no evidence of a criminal offence, I smell the stench of money at the root of the motivation of some of the major players in this tawdry tale.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    edited July 2023
    If the allegations that formed the basis of the initial story are not true, as it seems, The Sun needs to be sued. They can't be shamed.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    edited July 2023
    Other parts of News UK have Rod Liddle being interviewed by Jeremy Kyle about the story. Beyond parody.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    kingstongraham said:

    If the allegations that formed the basis of the initial story are not true, as it seems, The Sun needs to be sued. They can't be shamed.

    The Sun has no plans to publish further allegations, according to BBC live text.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    secretsqirrel said:

    kingstongraham said:

    If the allegations that formed the basis of the initial story are not true, as it seems, The Sun needs to be sued. They can't be shamed.

    The Sun has no plans to publish further allegations, according to BBC live text.
    So basically they’ve just ‘outed’ a bloke with mental health issues. Chapeau.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    A ‘media’ outlet that has accused Hillsborough victims of being ‘drunk and disorderly’, hacked a dead school girls phone and posted images of 16 year school girls with their tops off, now take the moral high ground. Utter scum and exactly the reason why having the BBC’s impartiality is a good thing.
  • bikes_and_dogs
    bikes_and_dogs Posts: 130
    edited July 2023
    kingstongraham said:

    The Sun needs to be sued. They can't be shamed.

    Ha Ha Ha. The Sun will defend itself as the voice that exploits everyday stories because they involve somebody vaguely famous. If folk continue to pay for such rubbish, they will continue to exist.
    Shame is not part of their reality. The only thing that matters is the money that lines their dirty pockets.

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,377
    It's all client media stuff. Murdoch and the Tories hate the BBC. The mother thought she could make some money by selling the story, and certain people were rubbing their hands with glee. They don't care who they destroy, or how they do it.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,377
    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    But the police say no criminal offence, so what's the big deal?


    I guess it makes his status as a national treasure a little problematic, but that's about it. At least he got the dead Queenie gig out of the way first.
    Does it? All that's been confirmed is that he is the presenter in question. The police have concluded no investigation needed, so at least part of the Sun's story was not backed up. I think we're all grown up enough to think the news-reading persona is the 'real' him.

    Well, it would be rather good if he's able to come out of this episode and remain a national treasure in order to stick it to Murdoch and whoever else was in on the attempted character assassination. I hope there is some legal recourse for Edwards - it would be nice if he could bankrupt the Sun.
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    edited July 2023
    Jezyboy said:

    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    But the police say no criminal offence, so what's the big deal?


    I guess it makes his status as a national treasure a little problematic, but that's about it. At least he got the dead Queenie gig out of the way first.
    Does it? All that's been confirmed is that he is the presenter in question. The police have concluded no investigation needed, so at least part of the Sun's story was not backed up. I think we're all grown up enough to think the news-reading persona is the 'real' him.
    I don't really see a way back from this.
    Really? I mean he might not want to return, but I'm not sure why he should forced out. The Sun is gingerly trying to creep away, insisting they never suggested he'd done anything criminal - that was everyone else.
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    rjsterry said:

    Jezyboy said:

    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    But the police say no criminal offence, so what's the big deal?


    I guess it makes his status as a national treasure a little problematic, but that's about it. At least he got the dead Queenie gig out of the way first.
    Does it? All that's been confirmed is that he is the presenter in question. The police have concluded no investigation needed, so at least part of the Sun's story was not backed up. I think we're all grown up enough to think the news-reading persona is the 'real' him.
    I don't really see a way back from this.
    Really? I mean he might not want to, but I'm not sure why he should forced out. The Sun is gingerly trying to creep away, insisting they never suggested he'd done anything criminal - that was everyone else.
    Of course they are as they are cowardly shithouses.
  • bikes_and_dogs
    bikes_and_dogs Posts: 130
    edited July 2023
    Shades of the Milly Dowler scandal that finally brought an end to the unsavoury "News of the World".
    Their scandalous headlines and prying nature without any real public interest have not been missed.
    If this latest bout of headline making nonsense turns out to be the beginning of the end for The Sun, I for one would shed no tears. They've had it coming for a while.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    22:09 and they’re still on the topic on the bbc news. Come on lads.
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,608
    rjsterry said:

    Jezyboy said:

    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    But the police say no criminal offence, so what's the big deal?


    I guess it makes his status as a national treasure a little problematic, but that's about it. At least he got the dead Queenie gig out of the way first.
    Does it? All that's been confirmed is that he is the presenter in question. The police have concluded no investigation needed, so at least part of the Sun's story was not backed up. I think we're all grown up enough to think the news-reading persona is the 'real' him.
    I don't really see a way back from this.
    Really? I mean he might not want to return, but I'm not sure why he should forced out. The Sun is gingerly trying to creep away, insisting they never suggested he'd done anything criminal - that was everyone else.
    Depending on what the truth actually is, unless it's all complete hokum I think it'll be suggested strongly that he steps back.

    If this all ends up being about an older man spending too much money on onlyfans...

    Well on the one hand The Sun (and other red tops) do a lot of "articles" that are thinly disguised adverts for such services, and as far as adult material goes, it's quite ethical. On the other hand many people on other forums have decided that the age gap is just too high on the ick factor.

    If it is just about buying porn I still think he loses/leaves his lead anchor role, but probably gets some jobs presenting slightly racey documentaries.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    It reminds me of when Angus Deyton was forced to step down as host of HIGNFY for sleeping with a prostitute, when about 2 weeks later mountains of revolting filth came out about several people in the public eye and noone batted an eyelid.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,919
    shirley_basso said:

    It reminds me of when Angus Deyton was forced to step down as host of HIGNFY for sleeping with a prostitute, when about 2 weeks later mountains of revolting filth came out about several people in the public eye and noone batted an eyelid.

    He stepped down because he became the butt of jokes which didn't work in his position as host.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Fair. I was quite young at the time and don't recall the nuance.
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,807
    rjsterry said:

    Jezyboy said:

    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    kingstongraham said:

    But the police say no criminal offence, so what's the big deal?


    I guess it makes his status as a national treasure a little problematic, but that's about it. At least he got the dead Queenie gig out of the way first.
    Does it? All that's been confirmed is that he is the presenter in question. The police have concluded no investigation needed, so at least part of the Sun's story was not backed up. I think we're all grown up enough to think the news-reading persona is the 'real' him.
    I don't really see a way back from this.
    Really? I mean he might not want to return, but I'm not sure why he should forced out. The Sun is gingerly trying to creep away, insisting they never suggested he'd done anything criminal - that was everyone else.

    He and his family have probably gone through a shitload of stuff with the Police if there was even a hint of sexual activity with a minor. They probably would have seized computers, laptops, phones, CD's, memory sticks etc. It depends on how thoroughly they were searching, and it would have taken ages to get them back. I have a previous acquaintance who was suspected of some sexual misdemeanor and the local CID basically ripped his house apart for days and he didn't get his electronic stuff back for weeks. In the end there was no case to answer. He was a bit of a dodgy character and I purposely lost contact with him after that.
    I can imagine that relations between Mr & Mrs Huw are a little tense now, unless of course she knew all along about his proclivity to view pictures young men with boners. He was rather stupid and misguided to have done what he did, being such a public figure and all.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Reason #222 why I'd never go on TV voluntarily.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    photonic69 said:


    I can imagine that relations between Mr & Mrs Huw are a little tense now, unless of course she knew all along about his proclivity to view pictures young men with boners. He was rather stupid and misguided to have done what he did, being such a public figure and all.

    Think that might say more about you than Huw these days...
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,115
    With regards "Catgate". My mom goes to a coffee morning a few times a week. There are a couple who are regular GB News watchers. They regurgitate all this rubbish and have no interest in fact checking or verifying it. It worries me how many other people pick up on it though and believe it too, without questioning it. Fortunately my mom knows better but a lot of the group (and I am sure this goes on all over the place), just accept this garbage as fact, believing it to be actual journalism.

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