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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,893
    Momentarily. And now we see why they are setting up a new party within a party.



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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,893
    Lol

    Now even the Tories are disillusioned with the Tories.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465
    Fortunately I can't link to tweets now because I'm not signed up to it.

    It is completely.brilliant how he's killing that platform. So happy that Meta are coming to the rescue. :*
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931
    I once turned up to a seminar unprepared, and was ripped apart by the lecturer. This is the Prime Minister FFS. It's just pathetic.

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931
    Oh well, seems I was utterly wrong about Sunak not being Johnson... well, he is, but without the skill for lying even vaguely convincingly. The contempt he has for anyone questioning his judgement is the same though. He's going to fall apart completely in an election.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited July 2023

    I once turned up to a seminar unprepared, and was ripped apart by the lecturer. This is the Prime Minister FFS. It's just pathetic.

    I am absolutely baffled that anyone in any scenario thinks it is a reasonable excuse.

    In what world is not doing the (3 page) reading acceptable?

    How can you think someone with this judgment is worth being an PM?

    Literally all he did was say money printer go brrr because some clever civil servants told him to and he appointed someone who wasn’t an utter clown as treasurer and everyone think he’s sensible.

    He isn’t, he’s a f@cking moron.

    In what world can a world leader say “I didn’t do the reading” as a reason not to answer?!
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,674
    How did he cope in his roles before politics?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931

    I once turned up to a seminar unprepared, and was ripped apart by the lecturer. This is the Prime Minister FFS. It's just pathetic.

    I am absolutely baffled that anyone in any scenario thinks it is a reasonable excuse.

    In what world is not doing the (3 page) reading acceptable?

    How can you think someone with this judgment is worth being an PM?

    Literally all he did was say money printer go brrr because some clever civil servants told him to and he appointed someone who wasn’t an utter clown as treasurer and everyone think he’s sensible.

    He isn’t, he’s a f@cking moron.

    In what world can a world leader say “I didn’t do the reading” as a reason not to answer?!

    Whatever way you spin it, he comes out looking like a moron to the rest of us (if not to himself): either he's so arrogant he doesn't think such trifles as being prepared for a select committee grilling matters, or he has read it and thinks that his lies will be believed.

    Neither he nor his ministers seem able to give a straight answer to a simple question - their total evasion is becoming clearer and clearer by the day. To quote Johnson's housemaster, they too seem to think that they should be "free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else". One of those obligations is, especially as ministers, the obligation to answer questions truthfully when their actions are being scrutinised by official bodies.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Almost as little accountability as the royal family
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,674

    I once turned up to a seminar unprepared, and was ripped apart by the lecturer. This is the Prime Minister FFS. It's just pathetic.

    I am absolutely baffled that anyone in any scenario thinks it is a reasonable excuse.

    In what world is not doing the (3 page) reading acceptable?

    How can you think someone with this judgment is worth being an PM?

    Literally all he did was say money printer go brrr because some clever civil servants told him to and he appointed someone who wasn’t an utter clown as treasurer and everyone think he’s sensible.

    He isn’t, he’s a f@cking moron.

    In what world can a world leader say “I didn’t do the reading” as a reason not to answer?!

    Whatever way you spin it, he comes out looking like a moron to the rest of us (if not to himself): either he's so arrogant he doesn't think such trifles as being prepared for a select committee grilling matters, or he has read it and thinks that his lies will be believed.

    Neither he nor his ministers seem able to give a straight answer to a simple question - their total evasion is becoming clearer and clearer by the day. To quote Johnson's housemaster, they too seem to think that they should be "free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else". One of those obligations is, especially as ministers, the obligation to answer questions truthfully when their actions are being scrutinised by official bodies.
    I guess the question I'm left with in is questioning what exactly is the point in the select committees etc.

    For Rishi there does not seem to be any downside to this performance. I would guess most voters are simply unaware of the performance, and for Tories aware of it, would just write the committee off as some woke/left wing instrument of state.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,291
    edited July 2023
    Does that go along with Johnson saying what a terrible idea ULEZ is?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931

    Does that go along with Johnson saying what a terrible idea ULEZ is?


    And Useless Eustace saying that we should do a deal with the EU so young people can move freely between the EU and the UK for work and stuff.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,299
    Ignore all that #toryscumMP groping, sexual assault, rape stuff ongoing ad infinitum, some (non gender specific) bloke that works for BBC is alleged to have been a bit naughty. Headlines!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,955
    orraloon said:

    Ignore all that #toryscumMP groping, sexual assault, rape stuff ongoing ad infinitum, some (non gender specific) bloke that works for BBC is alleged to have been a bit naughty. Headlines!

    Oddly enough, it's headlines on the BBC...
    https://bbc.co.uk/news
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,893
    Bit weird that the mother of the teenager in question chose to approach the newspaper famous for publishing pictures of semi-naked teenagers.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,955
    orraloon said:

    Ignore all that #toryscumMP groping, sexual assault, rape stuff ongoing ad infinitum, some (non gender specific) bloke that works for BBC is alleged to have been a bit naughty. Headlines!


    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931
    Sunak proves yet again what an utter unprincipled coward he is:

  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,674

    Sunak proves yet again what an utter unprincipled coward he is:

    I find it quite bizarre. He's been presented with a number of opportunities to make a break with the past and try to restore a little faith in principles etc. His polling numbers are poor, why not give it a go!?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931
    Jezyboy said:

    Sunak proves yet again what an utter unprincipled coward he is:

    I find it quite bizarre. He's been presented with a number of opportunities to make a break with the past and try to restore a little faith in principles etc. His polling numbers are poor, why not give it a go!?

    I think his algorithm is stuck on loop, and it's the same algorithm that says he's doing fine.

    It just goes to show that he's got no political judgement whatsoever, or courage. As much as I hate Trump, at least his basic instincts about what will fire up his followers have adapted his messaging, even if, sadly, it means he gets even more dangerous by the week.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,893
    They chose Truss over him, so...
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465
    rjsterry said:

    They chose Truss over him, so...

    This, there's no point in his popularity as PM increasing if he is not the PM.

    So he needs to pander to the people who still think Boris was a proven winner with winning policies that would help them win.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,299
    rjsterry said:

    They chose Truss over him, so...

    Thick Lizzy: cosplay Thatcher
    HiRiskAnus: one of them brown skinned immigrunts
    Simplez innit.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931
    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    Ignore all that #toryscumMP groping, sexual assault, rape stuff ongoing ad infinitum, some (non gender specific) bloke that works for BBC is alleged to have been a bit naughty. Headlines!



    Who knew? The Sun makes stuff up. Just as well no-one started frothing at the mouth about who it could be.

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465
    edited July 2023
    Time will tell. It is in the nature of grooming that the person groomed doesn't necessarily see themselves in that light.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,893

    Time will tell. It is in the nature of grooming that the person groomed doesn't necessarily see themselves in that light.

    I'm sure the Sun are 'just asking questions'.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465
    Fwiw I agree that publishing first and clearing up the mess later later isn't ideal, particularly if you only clear up the mess on page 15, or don't clear up the mess.

    But this one probably does have a while to run.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    The Sun who printed topless photos of Sam Fox on page 3 when she was 16 years old.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,931

    Fwiw I agree that publishing first and clearing up the mess later later isn't ideal, particularly if you only clear up the mess on page 15, or don't clear up the mess.

    But this one probably does have a while to run.


    I think it's probably more likely to run whilst enriching lawyers chasing defamation claims.