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First.Aspect

pblakeney said:

First.Aspect said:

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

There's supposed to be a cold snap next week.

Really worried we are entering the next ice age.

14 day forecast in these parts is low double figures with a mixture of dry days and showers which seems like fiarly typical weather for the time of year.

But thst will include the coldest April day for over a year.

Has the Express had a headline about the oncoming snowmaggedon/big freeze, whatever? They are usually first. And wrong.

Dunno, but careful wording such as this can almost be guaranteed to be accurate.

Pross

I always like it when forecasters tell us a mild March day is going to be 'the hottest day of the year so far'.

Dorset_Boy

pblakeney said:

First.Aspect said:

Pross said:

First.Aspect said:

There's supposed to be a cold snap next week.

Really worried we are entering the next ice age.

14 day forecast in these parts is low double figures with a mixture of dry days and showers which seems like fiarly typical weather for the time of year.

But thst will include the coldest April day for over a year.

Has the Express had a headline about the oncoming snowmaggedon/big freeze, whatever? They are usually first. And wrong.

On Microsoft Edge, the Bing info page always has the Express predicting a great freeze, and next to it GB News predicting a heatwave!

morstar

Cover all the bases.

Although while I was lamenting how late any warm weather has been this year, I then remembered it was still incredibly mild well into November last year so winter has simply shifted by about 2-3 months in my estimation.

rjsterry

Seems pretty clear that the enquiry into Raab's behaviour has not exonerated him or he'd be waving it around to say so.

Thus confirming that Sunak is running away from the problem.

rick_chasey

Braverman did worse and she's still home secretary and I'm sure Raab is making that argument.

Who would replace him?

rjsterry

I think Sunak has tried to portray himself as slightly more professional than Johnson. Not a high hurdle to clear, but he did indicate that he would act promptly on receipt of the report. Perhaps he is giving Raab 24hrs to do the honourable thing.

First.Aspect

They are in the process of figuring out why a finding of serial bullying doesn't mean he's a bully, and why he only needs to apologise for what he hasn't done wrong.

This will probably have something to do with having lots of important work to do, from which this is a Corbyn lead distraction.

kingstongraham

rjsterry said:

Perhaps he is giving Raab 24hrs to do the honourable thing.

Maybe he should bench him for a week like when Braverman got sacked.

sungod

i'm sure 'lessons will be learned', etc.

pblakeney

He's resigned.

TheBigBean

He's gone down swinging. I wonder if any of the civil service will resign as well.

Pross

I think I'm the only person who felt it was good that Sunak took his time, read the report in full and considered things rather than jumping in on the basis of reading a summary and succumbing to media pressure to make a quick decision. A result within 24 hours seems perfectly reasonable but the media seemed to want a decision within minutes of him getting the report.

kingstongraham

I wonder if the report has actually concluded what he says it has.

rick_chasey

Any odds on his replacements?

TheBigBean

kingstongraham said:

I wonder if the report has actually concluded what he says it has.

He says it concluded there were two instances of bullying. I would presume that is correct.

kingstongraham

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

I wonder if the report has actually concluded what he says it has.

He says it concluded there were two instances of bullying. I would presume that is correct.

He also says it concluded that he had never sworn or shouted at anyone.

TheBigBean

kingstongraham said:

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

I wonder if the report has actually concluded what he says it has.

He says it concluded there were two instances of bullying. I would presume that is correct.

He also says it concluded that he had never sworn or shouted at anyone.

I'd also assume that was correct, but perhaps I'm falling for fake news.

First.Aspect

rick_chasey said:

Any odds on his replacements?

Truss? Patel? Qwarteng?

It's a strong field and we would be lucky to have any of them.

kingstongraham

Brandon Lewis?

First.Aspect

Not sure what his politics are, but Harry Maguire will be free soon.

He is the sort of guy who won't make any hasty decisions.

rjsterry

"I'm resigning to avoid being sacked but I only did it twice and I still maintain those two don't really count. I'm genuinely sorry that people aren't prepared to put up with my behaviour."

First.Aspect

I will be stepping back from the cabinet for a few weeks to spend more time woth my family, until there is a new scandal and another vacancy.

wallace_and_gromit

Pross said:

I think I'm the only person who felt it was good that Sunak took his time, read the report in full and considered things rather than jumping in on the basis of reading a summary and succumbing to media pressure to make a quick decision. A result within 24 hours seems perfectly reasonable but the media seemed to want a decision within minutes of him getting the report.

To paraphrase the PM debates in 2010: "I agree with Pross!" Who knows what "real work" may have been in Sunak's red boxes over the last 24 hours?

rick_chasey

wallace_and_gromit said:

Pross said:

I think I'm the only person who felt it was good that Sunak took his time, read the report in full and considered things rather than jumping in on the basis of reading a summary and succumbing to media pressure to make a quick decision. A result within 24 hours seems perfectly reasonable but the media seemed to want a decision within minutes of him getting the report.

To paraphrase the PM debates in 2010: "I agree with Pross!" Who knows what "real work" may have been in Sunak's red boxes over the last 24 hours?

I'd be more inclined to agree if we didn't already have a pretty good idea of how sh!t Raab is.

None of this is a surprise.

Pross

rick_chasey said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

Pross said:

I think I'm the only person who felt it was good that Sunak took his time, read the report in full and considered things rather than jumping in on the basis of reading a summary and succumbing to media pressure to make a quick decision. A result within 24 hours seems perfectly reasonable but the media seemed to want a decision within minutes of him getting the report.

To paraphrase the PM debates in 2010: "I agree with Pross!" Who knows what "real work" may have been in Sunak's red boxes over the last 24 hours?

I'd be more inclined to agree if we didn't already have a pretty good idea of how sh!t Raab is.

None of this is a surprise.

If you go to the trouble of commissioning a report then it makes sense to properly read it for yourself and try to understand everything. It's a pet hate of mine when people pay for a report then ignore it or only read the summary. With political issues there always seems to be an expectation of an immediate response, you see it with the reports from public inquiries that last years and go into a document of hundreds or even thousands of pages.

wallace_and_gromit

rick_chasey said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

Pross said:

I think I'm the only person who felt it was good that Sunak took his time, read the report in full and considered things rather than jumping in on the basis of reading a summary and succumbing to media pressure to make a quick decision. A result within 24 hours seems perfectly reasonable but the media seemed to want a decision within minutes of him getting the report.

To paraphrase the PM debates in 2010: "I agree with Pross!" Who knows what "real work" may have been in Sunak's red boxes over the last 24 hours?

I'd be more inclined to agree if we didn't already have a pretty good idea of how sh!t Raab is.

None of this is a surprise.

Raab is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The only reason folk were agitating for Sunak to act quickly was so they could say "He's not acted quickly" enough when he didn't act immediately. A good rule of thumb is that where objects aren't moving , agitation for swift action is motivated by personal agendas not the greater good.

Stevo_666

wallace_and_gromit said:

rick_chasey said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

Pross said:

I think I'm the only person who felt it was good that Sunak took his time, read the report in full and considered things rather than jumping in on the basis of reading a summary and succumbing to media pressure to make a quick decision. A result within 24 hours seems perfectly reasonable but the media seemed to want a decision within minutes of him getting the report.

To paraphrase the PM debates in 2010: "I agree with Pross!" Who knows what "real work" may have been in Sunak's red boxes over the last 24 hours?

I'd be more inclined to agree if we didn't already have a pretty good idea of how sh!t Raab is.

None of this is a surprise.

Raab is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The only reason folk were agitating for Sunak to act quickly was so they could say "He's not acted quickly" enough when he didn't act immediately. A good rule of thumb is that where objects aren't moving , agitation for swift action is motivated by personal agendas not the greater good.

Given the thread that this is in, Sunak would be criticised whatever he did.

rjsterry

wallace_and_gromit said:

rick_chasey said:

wallace_and_gromit said:

Pross said:

I think I'm the only person who felt it was good that Sunak took his time, read the report in full and considered things rather than jumping in on the basis of reading a summary and succumbing to media pressure to make a quick decision. A result within 24 hours seems perfectly reasonable but the media seemed to want a decision within minutes of him getting the report.

To paraphrase the PM debates in 2010: "I agree with Pross!" Who knows what "real work" may have been in Sunak's red boxes over the last 24 hours?

I'd be more inclined to agree if we didn't already have a pretty good idea of how sh!t Raab is.

None of this is a surprise.

Raab is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The only reason folk were agitating for Sunak to act quickly was so they could say "He's not acted quickly" enough when he didn't act immediately. A good rule of thumb is that where objects aren't moving , agitation for swift action is motivated by personal agendas not the greater good.

I think the point is more that it has taken so long to produce the report.

rick_chasey

That and it was ludicrous they had re-appointed him in the first place.