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Most recent I would say was the Cameron / Clegg partnership. Blair in his first term maybe? I can't really remember.Stevo_666 said:
Don't worry, there's 4 more years.surrey_commuter said:
He has been PM for over a year and has done next to nothing. As somebody who believes in small govt I see this as a good thing and in all seriousness would put it in the very short list of positive things he has done for the UK.Pross said:
Isn't that the point being made? Other than 'getting Brexit done' it feels like they haven't even tried to do anything with their majority. OK, I understand that Covid coming along has taken up a lot of time and effort but surely the benefit of having a healthy majority, especially when the Party has been remodelled so that many of the more centrist voices have been pushed aside, is that you can push through those tricky policies you've always wanted. People will whinge at seeing things they don't like getting approved but that's democracy - sitting there apparently doing nothing, or even talking about what you plan to do, for the best part of a year just seems a waste.Stevo_666 said:
It's quite important as you can't really do much if you're not in power. Ask any Lib Dem.kingstongraham said:
It's one of their main achievements.Stevo_666 said:
Well if pointing out how big the Tory win was is taking the p1ss, let's have more p1ss takingrjsterry said:
You seem to be confusing annoyance with pi**taking 😉Stevo_666 said:That 80 seat majority does seem to annoy a lot of people in the Cake Stop bubble judging by the number of times it get mentioned here. TBH I'd save a bit of self righteous energy for whingeing as thanks to the fixed term parliament act, you've got another 4 and a bit years of this
There is definitely annoyance involved unless those mentioning it are happy with an 80 seat Tory majority. And we know that they aren't
Out of interest, how many past PM's do you think made a big positive impact within 9 months of taking office and if do, by doing what?0 -
OK, so tell me how I should comment on something that hasn't yet been announced. Happy to comment when it exists.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Patience, young trumpet teacher. You'll just have to wait until those tax rises come out that everyone seems to want me to comment on.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Well it seems that the centre leftie consensus is that I'm being a bad boy for not commenting on tax rises thst haven't yet been announced. I'd like to think I have some ability, but seeing Into the future isn't one of them.rjsterry said:
And then for hell to freeze over before you actually say what you think about the government.Stevo_666 said:
Much the same end effect when it comes to **** upsPross said:
If only I'd used the word 'guess' in my post you wouldn't have needed to point that out. Oh....!Stevo_666 said:
Another assumptionPross said:
My guess is that any tax rises put forward by the Tories will be considered sensible as opposed to if the same tax rises had been proposed by Lefties that would have been bad for all sorts of reasonsStevo_666 said:
Why don't you wait and see what tax rises are announced and whether I agree with them.rick_chasey said:Looking forward to Stevo justifying the Rishi hikes on various taxes including corporate tax.
Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you've already made two big assumptions
Some of you lot need a better crystal ball.
Here's a mad suggestion: wait until any tax rises are announced?
Patience, young liberal Jedi. You should have patience, given how long it's been since David Steel uttered the immortal words to the Liberals 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare...for government!'
Oh good, a quote from David Steel from 39 years ago. Very relevant to the current shambles of a government. You seem to have opinions about everyone's competence except the current government (who have a majority of 80).
It's a pity Johnson didn't prepare for government.
In the meantime I'm enjoying a good glass of plonk which isn't bitter like so many on here
You seem to be confusing bitterness with amusement at your continued obfuscation and evasion."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
At last, someone who can think about this objectively, rather than join the right on torches and pitchforks brigadesurrey_commuter said:A fair bit of baiting going on so can I side with SteveO and point out that he has always been unequivocal on levels of taxation in general and corporation tax in particular.
Indeed the stats would suggest that if Rishi wants to raise taxation then he should make corporation tax more competitive and reduce the distorting effects of high marginal income tax rates.
I may be misremembering but I think he was in favour of a massive reduction in IHT so people paid it rather than paying to avoid it.
My views on tax are indeed well documented on here. In a nutshell on ypur points, CT is already pretty competitive in rate terms but they could do better in terms of was in the compliance burden. Income tax is pretty burdensome and needs to encourage wealth creators rather than pandering to the leftie punishment/'they can afford it' mentality. IHT is for the most part taxing what has already been taxed (income from what has been earned) or what is out of scope of tax normally (family home) but is relatively insignificant.
I'll give my views on the announcement when it comes."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
And anyone who wants to keep droning with the same old questions before the announcement - please keep ypur jogging kit on "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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What consensus are you on about? Rick joked about what your take might be. One or two others commented on it once you rose to the bait. I can see why you would want to pretend this is the burning issue rather than all the other points people have made but I'm not sure who you think you're convincing.Stevo_666 said:
Well it seems that the centre leftie consensus is that I'm being a bad boy for not commenting on tax rises thst haven't yet been announced. I'd like to think I have some ability, but seeing Into the future isn't one of them.rjsterry said:
And then for hell to freeze over before you actually say what you think about the government.Stevo_666 said:
Much the same end effect when it comes to **** upsPross said:
If only I'd used the word 'guess' in my post you wouldn't have needed to point that out. Oh....!Stevo_666 said:
Another assumptionPross said:
My guess is that any tax rises put forward by the Tories will be considered sensible as opposed to if the same tax rises had been proposed by Lefties that would have been bad for all sorts of reasonsStevo_666 said:
Why don't you wait and see what tax rises are announced and whether I agree with them.rick_chasey said:Looking forward to Stevo justifying the Rishi hikes on various taxes including corporate tax.
Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you've already made two big assumptions
Some of you lot need a better crystal ball.
Here's a mad suggestion: wait until any tax rises are announced?
Patience, young liberal Jedi. You should have patience, given how long it's been since David Steel uttered the immortal words to the Liberals 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare...for government!'- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Yawn. I'm just responding to popular self righteous demand. Wait for the announcement as I've said numerous times now. And fyi the comment about keeping your jogging kit on includes youpangolin said:
What consensus are you on about? Rick joked about what your take might be. One or two others commented on it once you rose to the bait. I can see why you would want to pretend this is the burning issue rather than all the other points people have made but I'm not sure who you think you're convincing.Stevo_666 said:
Well it seems that the centre leftie consensus is that I'm being a bad boy for not commenting on tax rises thst haven't yet been announced. I'd like to think I have some ability, but seeing Into the future isn't one of them.rjsterry said:
And then for hell to freeze over before you actually say what you think about the government.Stevo_666 said:
Much the same end effect when it comes to **** upsPross said:
If only I'd used the word 'guess' in my post you wouldn't have needed to point that out. Oh....!Stevo_666 said:
Another assumptionPross said:
My guess is that any tax rises put forward by the Tories will be considered sensible as opposed to if the same tax rises had been proposed by Lefties that would have been bad for all sorts of reasonsStevo_666 said:
Why don't you wait and see what tax rises are announced and whether I agree with them.rick_chasey said:Looking forward to Stevo justifying the Rishi hikes on various taxes including corporate tax.
Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you've already made two big assumptions
Some of you lot need a better crystal ball.
Here's a mad suggestion: wait until any tax rises are announced?
Patience, young liberal Jedi. You should have patience, given how long it's been since David Steel uttered the immortal words to the Liberals 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare...for government!'
I bet you love that 80 seat majority too..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Missed the point again, but never mind.Stevo_666 said:
Well it seems that the centre leftie consensus is that I'm being a bad boy for not commenting on tax rises thst haven't yet been announced. I'd like to think I have some ability, but seeing Into the future isn't one of them.rjsterry said:
And then for hell to freeze over before you actually say what you think about the government.Stevo_666 said:
Much the same end effect when it comes to **** upsPross said:
If only I'd used the word 'guess' in my post you wouldn't have needed to point that out. Oh....!Stevo_666 said:
Another assumptionPross said:
My guess is that any tax rises put forward by the Tories will be considered sensible as opposed to if the same tax rises had been proposed by Lefties that would have been bad for all sorts of reasonsStevo_666 said:
Why don't you wait and see what tax rises are announced and whether I agree with them.rick_chasey said:Looking forward to Stevo justifying the Rishi hikes on various taxes including corporate tax.
Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you've already made two big assumptions
Some of you lot need a better crystal ball.
Here's a mad suggestion: wait until any tax rises are announced?
Patience, young liberal Jedi. You should have patience, given how long it's been since David Steel uttered the immortal words to the Liberals 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare...for government!'1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Must be a great feeling for Tony Abbot to know that he only got the BoT gig to distract from his new colleague Dan Hannan. 😂😂1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I think it's the anticipation of the potential of witnessing an immovable object meeting an irresistible force getting some people giddy.Stevo_666 said:
At last, someone who can think about this objectively, rather than join the right on torches and pitchforks brigadesurrey_commuter said:A fair bit of baiting going on so can I side with SteveO and point out that he has always been unequivocal on levels of taxation in general and corporation tax in particular.
Indeed the stats would suggest that if Rishi wants to raise taxation then he should make corporation tax more competitive and reduce the distorting effects of high marginal income tax rates.
I may be misremembering but I think he was in favour of a massive reduction in IHT so people paid it rather than paying to avoid it.
My views on tax are indeed well documented on here. In a nutshell on ypur points, CT is already pretty competitive in rate terms but they could do better in terms of was in the compliance burden. Income tax is pretty burdensome and needs to encourage wealth creators rather than pandering to the leftie punishment/'they can afford it' mentality. IHT is for the most part taxing what has already been taxed (income from what has been earned) or what is out of scope of tax normally (family home) but is relatively insignificant.
I'll give my views on the announcement when it comes.0 -
If the reason for working to gain power is to d!ck around owning libs, then it's a bit of a waste of a life.Stevo_666 said:
I think you're agreeing with me.kingstongraham said:
Sure, it's a prerequisite to achieving something, not the achievement itself.Stevo_666 said:
It's quite important as you can't really do much if you're not in power. Ask any Lib Dem.kingstongraham said:
It's one of their main achievements.Stevo_666 said:
Well if pointing out how big the Tory win was is taking the p1ss, let's have more p1ss takingrjsterry said:
You seem to be confusing annoyance with pi**taking 😉Stevo_666 said:That 80 seat majority does seem to annoy a lot of people in the Cake Stop bubble judging by the number of times it get mentioned here. TBH I'd save a bit of self righteous energy for whingeing as thanks to the fixed term parliament act, you've got another 4 and a bit years of this
There is definitely annoyance involved unless those mentioning it are happy with an 80 seat Tory majority. And we know that they aren't
That said, I am also in the group that is glad they are doing little, I just wish they had been more competent on the small matter of the pandemic.0 -
Him and Gove need to get their story straight. Do we need experts or not? Can't remember.
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You seem a bit confused, I haven't asked you any questions about potential tax rises.Stevo_666 said:
Yawn. I'm just responding to popular self righteous demand. Wait for the announcement as I've said numerous times now. And fyi the comment about keeping your jogging kit on includes youpangolin said:
What consensus are you on about? Rick joked about what your take might be. One or two others commented on it once you rose to the bait. I can see why you would want to pretend this is the burning issue rather than all the other points people have made but I'm not sure who you think you're convincing.Stevo_666 said:
Well it seems that the centre leftie consensus is that I'm being a bad boy for not commenting on tax rises thst haven't yet been announced. I'd like to think I have some ability, but seeing Into the future isn't one of them.rjsterry said:
And then for hell to freeze over before you actually say what you think about the government.Stevo_666 said:
Much the same end effect when it comes to **** upsPross said:
If only I'd used the word 'guess' in my post you wouldn't have needed to point that out. Oh....!Stevo_666 said:
Another assumptionPross said:
My guess is that any tax rises put forward by the Tories will be considered sensible as opposed to if the same tax rises had been proposed by Lefties that would have been bad for all sorts of reasonsStevo_666 said:
Why don't you wait and see what tax rises are announced and whether I agree with them.rick_chasey said:Looking forward to Stevo justifying the Rishi hikes on various taxes including corporate tax.
Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you've already made two big assumptions
Some of you lot need a better crystal ball.
Here's a mad suggestion: wait until any tax rises are announced?
Patience, young liberal Jedi. You should have patience, given how long it's been since David Steel uttered the immortal words to the Liberals 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare...for government!'
I bet you love that 80 seat majority too...
Fantastic you are still trotting out the majority though, keep it up.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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I see little point raising CT and risking the negative impact of doing so, when the CT take is going to be well down on past years with so many companies not making profits.Stevo_666 said:
At last, someone who can think about this objectively, rather than join the right on torches and pitchforks brigadesurrey_commuter said:A fair bit of baiting going on so can I side with SteveO and point out that he has always been unequivocal on levels of taxation in general and corporation tax in particular.
Indeed the stats would suggest that if Rishi wants to raise taxation then he should make corporation tax more competitive and reduce the distorting effects of high marginal income tax rates.
I may be misremembering but I think he was in favour of a massive reduction in IHT so people paid it rather than paying to avoid it.
My views on tax are indeed well documented on here. In a nutshell on ypur points, CT is already pretty competitive in rate terms but they could do better in terms of was in the compliance burden. Income tax is pretty burdensome and needs to encourage wealth creators rather than pandering to the leftie punishment/'they can afford it' mentality. IHT is for the most part taxing what has already been taxed (income from what has been earned) or what is out of scope of tax normally (family home) but is relatively insignificant.
I'll give my views on the announcement when it comes.0 -
This thread must be setting some sort of Cake Stop record for most repetitive argument.0
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Two great appointments for a forward looking UK.rjsterry said:Must be a great feeling for Tony Abbot to know that he only got the BoT gig to distract from his new colleague Dan Hannan. 😂😂
That their appointments have triggered the wokey dokeys means they are the right people for the roles.
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coopster_the_1st said:
Two great appointments for a forward looking UK.rjsterry said:Must be a great feeling for Tony Abbot to know that he only got the BoT gig to distract from his new colleague Dan Hannan. 😂😂
That their appointments have triggered the wokey dokeys means they are the right people for the roles.0 -
Haven't you read the Brexit thread? There are 1500 new posts since I last visited that, nothing new seems to be happening, and even when I was last in there the argument had been going around in circles for hundreds of pages.TheBigBean said:This thread must be setting some sort of Cake Stop record for most repetitive argument.
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It's not so much an argument as a small gang of centre lefties trying make me say what they want to hear/what they have already decided and getting rather annoyed when I won't play along. Hence the baiting and repeated requests as the frustration buildsTheBigBean said:This thread must be setting some sort of Cake Stop record for most repetitive argument.
Happy to have a sensible debate about the next tax moves by the govt (when announced) with those happy to play the ball rather than the man."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Agree, I think Abbott could be a good appointment. That he gets adverse comment on here is a bonuscoopster_the_1st said:
Two great appointments for a forward looking UK.rjsterry said:Must be a great feeling for Tony Abbot to know that he only got the BoT gig to distract from his new colleague Dan Hannan. 😂😂
That their appointments have triggered the wokey dokeys means they are the right people for the roles. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
In any event CT is a relatively small part of the tax take now. It is also one of the more 'manageable' taxes speaking from experience. And there is more to it than just fiddling with rates (although clearly that is the most easily understood aspect by the massed ranks of non experts).coopster_the_1st said:
I see little point raising CT and risking the negative impact of doing so, when the CT take is going to be well down on past years with so many companies not making profits.Stevo_666 said:
At last, someone who can think about this objectively, rather than join the right on torches and pitchforks brigadesurrey_commuter said:A fair bit of baiting going on so can I side with SteveO and point out that he has always been unequivocal on levels of taxation in general and corporation tax in particular.
Indeed the stats would suggest that if Rishi wants to raise taxation then he should make corporation tax more competitive and reduce the distorting effects of high marginal income tax rates.
I may be misremembering but I think he was in favour of a massive reduction in IHT so people paid it rather than paying to avoid it.
My views on tax are indeed well documented on here. In a nutshell on ypur points, CT is already pretty competitive in rate terms but they could do better in terms of was in the compliance burden. Income tax is pretty burdensome and needs to encourage wealth creators rather than pandering to the leftie punishment/'they can afford it' mentality. IHT is for the most part taxing what has already been taxed (income from what has been earned) or what is out of scope of tax normally (family home) but is relatively insignificant.
I'll give my views on the announcement when it comes."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
How come he only lasted 2 years as PM?Stevo_666 said:
Agree, I think Abbott could be a good appointment. That he gets adverse comment on here is a bonuscoopster_the_1st said:
Two great appointments for a forward looking UK.rjsterry said:Must be a great feeling for Tony Abbot to know that he only got the BoT gig to distract from his new colleague Dan Hannan. 😂😂
That their appointments have triggered the wokey dokeys means they are the right people for the roles.0 -
Try making a point then.pangolin said:
You seem a bit confused, I haven't asked you any questions about potential tax rises.Stevo_666 said:
Yawn. I'm just responding to popular self righteous demand. Wait for the announcement as I've said numerous times now. And fyi the comment about keeping your jogging kit on includes youpangolin said:
What consensus are you on about? Rick joked about what your take might be. One or two others commented on it once you rose to the bait. I can see why you would want to pretend this is the burning issue rather than all the other points people have made but I'm not sure who you think you're convincing.Stevo_666 said:
Well it seems that the centre leftie consensus is that I'm being a bad boy for not commenting on tax rises thst haven't yet been announced. I'd like to think I have some ability, but seeing Into the future isn't one of them.rjsterry said:
And then for hell to freeze over before you actually say what you think about the government.Stevo_666 said:
Much the same end effect when it comes to **** upsPross said:
If only I'd used the word 'guess' in my post you wouldn't have needed to point that out. Oh....!Stevo_666 said:
Another assumptionPross said:
My guess is that any tax rises put forward by the Tories will be considered sensible as opposed to if the same tax rises had been proposed by Lefties that would have been bad for all sorts of reasonsStevo_666 said:
Why don't you wait and see what tax rises are announced and whether I agree with them.rick_chasey said:Looking forward to Stevo justifying the Rishi hikes on various taxes including corporate tax.
Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you've already made two big assumptions
Some of you lot need a better crystal ball.
Here's a mad suggestion: wait until any tax rises are announced?
Patience, young liberal Jedi. You should have patience, given how long it's been since David Steel uttered the immortal words to the Liberals 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare...for government!'
I bet you love that 80 seat majority too...
Fantastic you are still trotting out the majority though, keep it up."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Worryingly Rishi costed the cancellation of the 2% reduction at £7bnStevo_666 said:
In any event CT is a relatively small part of the tax take now. It is also one of the more 'manageable' taxes speaking from experience. And there is more to it than just fiddling with rates (although clearly that is the most easily understood aspect by the massed ranks of non experts).coopster_the_1st said:
I see little point raising CT and risking the negative impact of doing so, when the CT take is going to be well down on past years with so many companies not making profits.Stevo_666 said:
At last, someone who can think about this objectively, rather than join the right on torches and pitchforks brigadesurrey_commuter said:A fair bit of baiting going on so can I side with SteveO and point out that he has always been unequivocal on levels of taxation in general and corporation tax in particular.
Indeed the stats would suggest that if Rishi wants to raise taxation then he should make corporation tax more competitive and reduce the distorting effects of high marginal income tax rates.
I may be misremembering but I think he was in favour of a massive reduction in IHT so people paid it rather than paying to avoid it.
My views on tax are indeed well documented on here. In a nutshell on ypur points, CT is already pretty competitive in rate terms but they could do better in terms of was in the compliance burden. Income tax is pretty burdensome and needs to encourage wealth creators rather than pandering to the leftie punishment/'they can afford it' mentality. IHT is for the most part taxing what has already been taxed (income from what has been earned) or what is out of scope of tax normally (family home) but is relatively insignificant.
I'll give my views on the announcement when it comes.0 -
As an added bonus, if the team in charge of immigration can sit down with Abbott for 5 minutes we could quickly get a working solution to the illegal economic migration that is taking place.Stevo_666 said:
Agree, I think Abbott could be a good appointment. That he gets adverse comment on here is a bonuscoopster_the_1st said:
Two great appointments for a forward looking UK.rjsterry said:Must be a great feeling for Tony Abbot to know that he only got the BoT gig to distract from his new colleague Dan Hannan. 😂😂
That their appointments have triggered the wokey dokeys means they are the right people for the roles.0 -
Stevo_666 said:
It's not so much an argument as a small gang of centre lefties trying make me say what they want to hear/what they have already decided and getting rather annoyed when I won't play along. Hence the baiting and repeated requests as the frustration buildsTheBigBean said:This thread must be setting some sort of Cake Stop record for most repetitive argument.
Happy to have a sensible debate about the next tax moves by the govt (when announced) with those happy to play the ball rather than the man.
I haven't seen any playing of the man rather than the ball (though do quote any posts, if I've missed them). A thousand pages ago you were asked for praise/criticism of the Tory government. Pickings were a little thin even on the praise side, and non-existent on the criticism side.
You are obviously keen to have a strong Tory Party: it'll only stay strong if it has a firm underpinning of core beliefs. rather than just being anti-the-left. But I've got no idea of what the Tories' principles are now. You might have been be able to help, with what your views are, and if the government we have is demonstrating any of those. It's not unreasonable to ask you your views, IMHO, given your advocacy for the Tories here.
The 'competence' part of the equation is whether they are putting any of those beliefs into policy and action. I can't see any evidence of that either, other than scraps of CV19 firefighting.0 -
Partly optics given the onset of the C-19 crisis IMO, but tbh 19% is pretty competitive rate-wise for a big country. I'll reserve judgment until I've seen what his next move is on this - in the context of any other tax changes.surrey_commuter said:
Worryingly Rishi costed the cancellation of the 2% reduction at £7bnStevo_666 said:
In any event CT is a relatively small part of the tax take now. It is also one of the more 'manageable' taxes speaking from experience. And there is more to it than just fiddling with rates (although clearly that is the most easily understood aspect by the massed ranks of non experts).coopster_the_1st said:
I see little point raising CT and risking the negative impact of doing so, when the CT take is going to be well down on past years with so many companies not making profits.Stevo_666 said:
At last, someone who can think about this objectively, rather than join the right on torches and pitchforks brigadesurrey_commuter said:A fair bit of baiting going on so can I side with SteveO and point out that he has always been unequivocal on levels of taxation in general and corporation tax in particular.
Indeed the stats would suggest that if Rishi wants to raise taxation then he should make corporation tax more competitive and reduce the distorting effects of high marginal income tax rates.
I may be misremembering but I think he was in favour of a massive reduction in IHT so people paid it rather than paying to avoid it.
My views on tax are indeed well documented on here. In a nutshell on ypur points, CT is already pretty competitive in rate terms but they could do better in terms of was in the compliance burden. Income tax is pretty burdensome and needs to encourage wealth creators rather than pandering to the leftie punishment/'they can afford it' mentality. IHT is for the most part taxing what has already been taxed (income from what has been earned) or what is out of scope of tax normally (family home) but is relatively insignificant.
I'll give my views on the announcement when it comes."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
In the word of RC, go Google - the answer is out therekingstongraham said:
How come he only lasted 2 years as PM?Stevo_666 said:
Agree, I think Abbott could be a good appointment. That he gets adverse comment on here is a bonuscoopster_the_1st said:
Two great appointments for a forward looking UK.rjsterry said:Must be a great feeling for Tony Abbot to know that he only got the BoT gig to distract from his new colleague Dan Hannan. 😂😂
That their appointments have triggered the wokey dokeys means they are the right people for the roles.
Why do you think that impacts the wisdom of his current appointment?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
My point was that there are plenty of people making various points about how terrible the govt are being, but you're pretending all anyone has asked is about tax hikes.Stevo_666 said:
Try making a point then.pangolin said:
You seem a bit confused, I haven't asked you any questions about potential tax rises.Stevo_666 said:
Yawn. I'm just responding to popular self righteous demand. Wait for the announcement as I've said numerous times now. And fyi the comment about keeping your jogging kit on includes youpangolin said:
What consensus are you on about? Rick joked about what your take might be. One or two others commented on it once you rose to the bait. I can see why you would want to pretend this is the burning issue rather than all the other points people have made but I'm not sure who you think you're convincing.Stevo_666 said:
Well it seems that the centre leftie consensus is that I'm being a bad boy for not commenting on tax rises thst haven't yet been announced. I'd like to think I have some ability, but seeing Into the future isn't one of them.rjsterry said:
And then for hell to freeze over before you actually say what you think about the government.Stevo_666 said:
Much the same end effect when it comes to **** upsPross said:
If only I'd used the word 'guess' in my post you wouldn't have needed to point that out. Oh....!Stevo_666 said:
Another assumptionPross said:
My guess is that any tax rises put forward by the Tories will be considered sensible as opposed to if the same tax rises had been proposed by Lefties that would have been bad for all sorts of reasonsStevo_666 said:
Why don't you wait and see what tax rises are announced and whether I agree with them.rick_chasey said:Looking forward to Stevo justifying the Rishi hikes on various taxes including corporate tax.
Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you've already made two big assumptions
Some of you lot need a better crystal ball.
Here's a mad suggestion: wait until any tax rises are announced?
Patience, young liberal Jedi. You should have patience, given how long it's been since David Steel uttered the immortal words to the Liberals 'Go back to your constituencies and prepare...for government!'
I bet you love that 80 seat majority too...
Fantastic you are still trotting out the majority though, keep it up.
Comically you responded as if I was asking you about tax hikes.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Of course, it's definitely a contender, but less focused than this one. This thread is more like a washing machine whereas the Brexit one is more akin to a merry go round.Pross said:
Haven't you read the Brexit thread? There are 1500 new posts since I last visited that, nothing new seems to be happening, and even when I was last in there the argument had been going around in circles for hundreds of pages.TheBigBean said:This thread must be setting some sort of Cake Stop record for most repetitive argument.
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'80 majority' is the new 'strong and stable'.0
