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Polls say the opposite.TheBigBean said:
As I said before, he is Hague fighting against Blair/Campbell. He can win every debate in parliament, but he also needs to win Richard and Judy, and at the moment, I don't think he is doing that.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
Genuinely, what can BoJo do to turn the polls around? Everything he touches crumbles.
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I mean, let's face it. the quality of commentary we have at the moment is appallingly low across the spectrum.
How did this get passed an editor and actually be published?0 -
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Because it sounds clever and high brow. Nevermind the fact that it would raise an eyebrow from anyone who understands what the words mean.rick_chasey said:
I mean, let's face it. the quality of commentary we have at the moment is appallingly low across the spectrum.
How did this get passed an editor and actually be published?0 -
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years.0 -
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Ditto the credible media performer. Looking at the competition for the top jobs doesn't throw up any obvious candidates to me - seemed to be a choice between patronising champagne socialist types like Thornberry, chippy working class Notherners like Rayner, or swivel eyed Corbynistas like Burgon and Long Bailey."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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it only has to be in comparison to their Tory counterpartStevo_666 said:Ditto the credible media performer. Looking at the competition for the top jobs doesn't throw up any obvious candidates to me - seemed to be a choice between patronising champagne socialist types like Thornberry, chippy working class Notherners like Rayner, or swivel eyed Corbynistas like Burgon and Long Bailey.
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My point still stands...surrey_commuter said:
it only has to be in comparison to their Tory counterpartStevo_666 said:Ditto the credible media performer. Looking at the competition for the top jobs doesn't throw up any obvious candidates to me - seemed to be a choice between patronising champagne socialist types like Thornberry, chippy working class Notherners like Rayner, or swivel eyed Corbynistas like Burgon and Long Bailey.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I had to look up who the shadow chancellor is, and I'm none the wiser. Perhaps she'll be good?
Whoever is shadow home secretary is better than the incumbent as a media performer.0 -
As opposed to rabid tory brexiter wanting to go WTO, and then allow duty free imports while the UK's exporters will suffer import duties into our largest single market. Genius! A trained economist probably couldn't do more damaged if they tried.Stevo_666 said:
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years.0 -
Less of the whataboutery - this is a leftie bashing thread (I should know, I started itvegas76 said:
As opposed to rabid tory brexiter wanting to go WTO, and then allow duty free imports while the UK's exporters will suffer import duties into our largest single market. Genius! A trained economist probably couldn't do more damaged if they tried.Stevo_666 said:
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years. ).
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
That's the other one. This is the Tories are incompetent one.Stevo_666 said:
Less of the whataboutery - this is a leftie bashing thread (I should know, I started itvegas76 said:
As opposed to rabid tory brexiter wanting to go WTO, and then allow duty free imports while the UK's exporters will suffer import duties into our largest single market. Genius! A trained economist probably couldn't do more damaged if they tried.Stevo_666 said:
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years. ).
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.2 -
Oopsie, careless post pub post.kingstongraham said:
That's the other one. This is the Tories are incompetent one.Stevo_666 said:
Less of the whataboutery - this is a leftie bashing thread (I should know, I started itvegas76 said:
As opposed to rabid tory brexiter wanting to go WTO, and then allow duty free imports while the UK's exporters will suffer import duties into our largest single market. Genius! A trained economist probably couldn't do more damaged if they tried.Stevo_666 said:
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years. ).
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.
Go on, name a great Labour Chancellor since Vegas hasn't been able to."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
You haven't answered my question. I dont think you canvegas76 said:
You think you know my opinions from a post on a forum? Arrogant as well as wrong.Stevo_666 said:
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.
And do enlighten us, what's your political persuasion? There's a lot of anger and bitterness in your posting so I had assumed based on that trait."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
As someone said upthread "less of the whataboutery".Stevo_666 said:
Oopsie, careless post pub post.kingstongraham said:
That's the other one. This is the Tories are incompetent one.Stevo_666 said:
Less of the whataboutery - this is a leftie bashing thread (I should know, I started itvegas76 said:
As opposed to rabid tory brexiter wanting to go WTO, and then allow duty free imports while the UK's exporters will suffer import duties into our largest single market. Genius! A trained economist probably couldn't do more damaged if they tried.Stevo_666 said:
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years. ).
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.
Go on, name a great Labour Chancellor since Vegas hasn't been able to.0 -
My politics are competence. Not something you know anything about.Stevo_666 said:
You haven't answered my question. I dont think you canvegas76 said:
You think you know my opinions from a post on a forum? Arrogant as well as wrong.Stevo_666 said:
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.
And do enlighten us, what's your political persuasion? There's a lot of anger and bitterness in your posting so I had assumed based on that trait.0 -
This is a new one: please, tell us more about your philosophy and policies, maybe we're all missing something here?vegas76 said:
My politics are competence.Stevo_666 said:
You haven't answered my question. I dont think you canvegas76 said:
You think you know my opinions from a post on a forum? Arrogant as well as wrong.Stevo_666 said:
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.
And do enlighten us, what's your political persuasion? There's a lot of anger and bitterness in your posting so I had assumed based on that trait."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Nah, I'll keep asking the question, as 'Johhny' here is clearly struggling to answer it.briantrumpet said:
As someone said upthread "less of the whataboutery".Stevo_666 said:
Oopsie, careless post pub post.kingstongraham said:
That's the other one. This is the Tories are incompetent one.Stevo_666 said:
Less of the whataboutery - this is a leftie bashing thread (I should know, I started itvegas76 said:
As opposed to rabid tory brexiter wanting to go WTO, and then allow duty free imports while the UK's exporters will suffer import duties into our largest single market. Genius! A trained economist probably couldn't do more damaged if they tried.Stevo_666 said:
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years. ).
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.
Go on, name a great Labour Chancellor since Vegas hasn't been able to."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
Nah, I'll keep asking the question, as 'Johhny' here is clearly struggling to answer it.briantrumpet said:
As someone said upthread "less of the whataboutery".Stevo_666 said:
Oopsie, careless post pub post.kingstongraham said:
That's the other one. This is the Tories are incompetent one.Stevo_666 said:
Less of the whataboutery - this is a leftie bashing thread (I should know, I started itvegas76 said:
As opposed to rabid tory brexiter wanting to go WTO, and then allow duty free imports while the UK's exporters will suffer import duties into our largest single market. Genius! A trained economist probably couldn't do more damaged if they tried.Stevo_666 said:
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years. ).
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.
Go on, name a great Labour Chancellor since Vegas hasn't been able to.
You could start a thread where you could keep on asking that question, and it might deserve an answer. It's still whataboutery here, however many times you ask.0 -
You're mixing me up with someone who cares Brian.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Nah, I'll keep asking the question, as 'Johhny' here is clearly struggling to answer it.briantrumpet said:
As someone said upthread "less of the whataboutery".Stevo_666 said:
Oopsie, careless post pub post.kingstongraham said:
That's the other one. This is the Tories are incompetent one.Stevo_666 said:
Less of the whataboutery - this is a leftie bashing thread (I should know, I started itvegas76 said:
As opposed to rabid tory brexiter wanting to go WTO, and then allow duty free imports while the UK's exporters will suffer import duties into our largest single market. Genius! A trained economist probably couldn't do more damaged if they tried.Stevo_666 said:
Such as? 'Credible chancellor' and 'Labour party' are two things you don't often hear in the same sentence.surrey_commuter said:
I think his best bet is if Boris is still there - then he will just have to look like a safe pair of hands, just needs to line up a credible chancellor and another media performer so they don't look like a two man band.Stevo_666 said:
The party he is trying to lead? Bit of a millstone for him really.rick_chasey said:
Honest question: what makes you think Keir Starmer won't win the next election?Stevo_666 said:
Borne put by the last few election results. I've always said that lefties don't learnkingstongraham said:Good article from Philip Collins: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-never-understands-how-tories-think-kwgztpkvc
Basically, the left will never land a blow on the Conservatives by pointing out what they view as hypocrisy, because people don't care about it, and also because the Conservatives as a party don't have any fixed beliefs or principles. "Conservatism is more of a disposition, a mood, a manner of thinking than it is a creed. "
Assume the caveat of "it's four and a half years away so lots can happen" is already built into your answer.
His best bet is that the usual pattern happens of voters chucking out parties that have been in power for a long time. By time the next election comes that will be nearly 15 years. ).
As you seem to be a Labour fanboi, name a Labour Chancellor who did great things and left an impressive legacy. Then you might be able to rebutt my point above.
Go on, name a great Labour Chancellor since Vegas hasn't been able to.
You could start a thread where you could keep on asking that question, and it might deserve an answer. It's still whataboutery here, however many times you ask.
Now where are those answers from Mr. 'My politics is competence'?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stafford Cripps?0
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Alistair darling sh!ts over every other Chancellor in the U.K. and the nation has no idea how grateful they should be to him.0
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KG - I suppose I should have said in living memory as Labour is rather different from what it was it was in the late 40's. But go on, why did you choose him?
Rick - genuine question - why do you think that?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Actually prudent fiscally, raised taxes to pay for the spending on social programmes that helped post war Britain. And had full employment and low inflation.Stevo_666 said:KG - I suppose I should have said in living memory as Labour is rather different from what it was it was in the late 40's. But go on, why did you choose him?
Rick - genuine question - why do you think that?
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Led the world in the right approach to deal with the GFC.Stevo_666 said:KG - I suppose I should have said in living memory as Labour is rather different from what it was it was in the late 40's. But go on, why did you choose him?
Rick - genuine question - why do you think that?
Acted fast and correctly. Was not pushed around by the various bank CEOs. (I think he said to the infamously intimidating Fred the Shred “you’re only the worlds biggest banking CEO because you overpaid for ABN and now is your reckoning” this is baller behaviour)
Covered for an appalling BoE governor.
Was just all over his brief and actually saw what was coming from down the road.0 -
I'll agree with you on the actions taken in the GFC (I think Brown also deserves some credit there). Although arguably they had blotted their copy book by time they left office.rick_chasey said:
Led the world in the right approach to deal with the GFC.Stevo_666 said:KG - I suppose I should have said in living memory as Labour is rather different from what it was it was in the late 40's. But go on, why did you choose him?
Rick - genuine question - why do you think that?
Acted fast and correctly. Was not pushed around by the various bank CEOs. (I think he said to the infamously intimidating Fred the Shred “you’re only the worlds biggest banking CEO because you overpaid for ABN and now is your reckoning” this is baller behaviour)
Covered for an appalling BoE governor.
Was just all over his brief and actually saw what was coming from down the road."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Why because they resisted Cameron’s calls to deregulate banking further? LolStevo_666 said:
I'll agree with you on the actions taken in the GFC (I think Brown also deserves some credit there). Although arguably they had blotted their copy book by time they left office.rick_chasey said:
Led the world in the right approach to deal with the GFC.Stevo_666 said:KG - I suppose I should have said in living memory as Labour is rather different from what it was it was in the late 40's. But go on, why did you choose him?
Rick - genuine question - why do you think that?
Acted fast and correctly. Was not pushed around by the various bank CEOs. (I think he said to the infamously intimidating Fred the Shred “you’re only the worlds biggest banking CEO because you overpaid for ABN and now is your reckoning” this is baller behaviour)
Covered for an appalling BoE governor.
Was just all over his brief and actually saw what was coming from down the road.0 -
Nope. There was the spending in an attempt to create the 'client state' and the scorched earth raise in the top rate of income tax to 50% towards the end of their administration which was done mainly out of spite.rick_chasey said:
Why because they resisted Cameron’s calls to deregulate banking further? LolStevo_666 said:
I'll agree with you on the actions taken in the GFC (I think Brown also deserves some credit there). Although arguably they had blotted their copy book by time they left office.rick_chasey said:
Led the world in the right approach to deal with the GFC.Stevo_666 said:KG - I suppose I should have said in living memory as Labour is rather different from what it was it was in the late 40's. But go on, why did you choose him?
Rick - genuine question - why do you think that?
Acted fast and correctly. Was not pushed around by the various bank CEOs. (I think he said to the infamously intimidating Fred the Shred “you’re only the worlds biggest banking CEO because you overpaid for ABN and now is your reckoning” this is baller behaviour)
Covered for an appalling BoE governor.
Was just all over his brief and actually saw what was coming from down the road."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
