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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    This bile: any particular examples?
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    rjsterry said:

    This bile: any particular examples?

    I think you will be able to spot plenty if you read back through this thread.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    This bile: any particular examples?

    I think you will be able to spot plenty if you read back through this thread.
    I've not seen any recently, which is why I'm asking. Just wondered if you had something particularly in mind.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited November 2023
    kingstongraham said:

    Unless they are changing the policy comprehensively, this feels like a waste of time and even more money.

    This surely can't be it because it is stupid on a whole new level. If asylum seekers are deemed to have a valid claim, they stay in Rwanda. If they don't, they come back to the UK.


  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    No-one hates the Tories as much as other Tories.

    Sounds like you haven't been reading most of the posts on here :)
    Laughing at them, not hating them. You have to admit, this is all quite funny.
    The bile spewed in here is quite amusing but a little bit sad at the same time :)

    Do you not get even a little cross at utter incompetence? After all, it is 'your team' that's going down the plughole while falling out with each other.
    They have made mistakes sure, but this thread and others has just become a repetive bile fest and after while you tend to tune out. I also maintain that in the absence of a credible alternative, much of the whining is a bit pointless. Who really thinks that Labour will make any real difference?

    I suspect if the business you work for had as many forced changes in leadership, as many court cases lost on company policy, and as much money spaffed away to the managers' mates as the Tories have, you'd not be staying with the company.

    I'm surprised you keep subscribing to the Telegraph, considering it is virtually nothing but bile, given it troubles you that much.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    TheBigBean said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:



    I guess they have to stay true to pretending to work on the policies that didn't get them elected.

    I think it is overlooked how much this point is valued by the electorate i.e. ignoring the manifesto that they all campaigned for.
    I'm not sure I follow. You think the electorate don't care, and people aren't talking about that fact? Or you think they do care?
    I think the electorate do care and that a significant number of people voted for levelling up and Boris. They now feel alienated by making-rich-people-richer policies.
    What policies are you referring to?
    I'm sure there are many, but things like improving trains services in the south (with HS2) whilst making them worse in the north (axing HS2). Liz Truss also went big on a few tax cuts for the rich which I think had an impact on voters even if Sunak was slightly more moderate.
    Don't see how HS2 makes the rich richer and Truss' tax cuts sadly didn't see the light of day.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    orraloon said:

    Shows just how far down the plughole the dUK has been drawn by #toryscum shenanigans when the shiny-faced pig botherer seems relatively sane.

    @rjsterry you don't need to go back that far to get a few examples. you can stop pretending you don't know what I'm talking about now ;)
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    rjsterry said:

    Apart from Loon, I've not seen any 'bile'. Think you're imagining it.

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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    Shows just how far down the plughole the dUK has been drawn by #toryscum shenanigans when the shiny-faced pig botherer seems relatively sane.

    @rjsterry you don't need to go back that far to get a few examples. you can stop pretending you don't know what I'm talking about now ;)
    You classify as 'bile' my statement of actual fact? I'm offended.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    Shows just how far down the plughole the dUK has been drawn by #toryscum shenanigans when the shiny-faced pig botherer seems relatively sane.

    @rjsterry you don't need to go back that far to get a few examples. you can stop pretending you don't know what I'm talking about now ;)
    I think I already noted our esteemed Scottish correspondent. Is that all you've got?
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    I think Sunak's planning on bringing in emergency legislation that says that the laws of physics don't apply in the UK.

    I can only assume that Sunak is @Manc33, as he seems to be applying the same sort of logic.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    Stevo_666 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:



    I guess they have to stay true to pretending to work on the policies that didn't get them elected.

    I think it is overlooked how much this point is valued by the electorate i.e. ignoring the manifesto that they all campaigned for.
    I'm not sure I follow. You think the electorate don't care, and people aren't talking about that fact? Or you think they do care?
    I think the electorate do care and that a significant number of people voted for levelling up and Boris. They now feel alienated by making-rich-people-richer policies.
    What policies are you referring to?
    I'm sure there are many, but things like improving trains services in the south (with HS2) whilst making them worse in the north (axing HS2). Liz Truss also went big on a few tax cuts for the rich which I think had an impact on voters even if Sunak was slightly more moderate.
    Don't see how HS2 makes the rich richer and Truss' tax cuts sadly didn't see the light of day.
    Assorted consultants and engineering joint ventures are doing very well out of it. Despite it not even properly connecting two cities at the moment.
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    Why not just call an election, put leaving the ECHR as part of the manifesto and then see whether they have a mandate for it.

    These last few years have been excruciating.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    Part of me thinks ‘Just fuck it, let’s leave the ECHR and see who the next bogey man for their failures is’

    If I was anti-immigration I’d be more livid about the levels of legal migration.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    Sorry SBA that is classed as bile around here
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    I've just read the last ten pages of this thread and I can't believe the utter bile of it.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    I'm going to read the ten previous pages to the last ten, hang on...
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    "We need to end the merry-go-round" says Sunak, as he proposes legislation that would allow us to send refugees to Rwanda and Rwanda to send them straight back.

    If this was a comedy people would say it was too on the nose.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    "Enough is enough. If this Government refuses to govern – refuses, two unelected leaders in, to carry out its manifesto commitments – then it has no business hanging about. Call a general election, and let us put it out of its misery."

    More leftiebollox. In the Telegraph.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/15/rwanda-immigration-borders-conservative-party-betrayal/
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    pblakeney said:

    "Enough is enough. If this Government refuses to govern – refuses, two unelected leaders in, to carry out its manifesto commitments – then it has no business hanging about. Call a general election, and let us put it out of its misery."

    More leftiebollox. In the Telegraph.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/15/rwanda-immigration-borders-conservative-party-betrayal/

    Leftiebile.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,814
    My favourite bit was Sunak saying he respects and accepts the decision of the Supreme Court at the beginning of a statement saying he's going to change the law to get round it.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    briantrumpet said:

    pblakeney said:

    "Enough is enough. If this Government refuses to govern – refuses, two unelected leaders in, to carry out its manifesto commitments – then it has no business hanging about. Call a general election, and let us put it out of its misery."

    More leftiebollox. In the Telegraph.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/15/rwanda-immigration-borders-conservative-party-betrayal/

    Leftiebile.
    Oh!
    I can't keep up with all these label changes. Too woke for me.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    skyblueamateur said:

    Why not just call an election, put leaving the ECHR as part of the manifesto and then see whether they have a mandate for it.

    These last few years have been excruciating.

    Because it doesn't actually make any difference to our obligations regarding refoulement. The only way this policy can work is if the Rwandan government completely overhauls its asylum system. I'm not sure it's likely to do that just to keep an ex minister happy.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    briantrumpet said:

    pblakeney said:

    "Enough is enough. If this Government refuses to govern – refuses, two unelected leaders in, to carry out its manifesto commitments – then it has no business hanging about. Call a general election, and let us put it out of its misery."

    More leftiebollox. In the Telegraph.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/15/rwanda-immigration-borders-conservative-party-betrayal/

    Leftiebile.
    Mobile: posting derogatory comments on BR about a distance runner.

    Nubile: same as the old bile.

    Cantabile:...

    I'll get my coat.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    pblakeney said:

    "Enough is enough. If this Government refuses to govern – refuses, two unelected leaders in, to carry out its manifesto commitments – then it has no business hanging about. Call a general election, and let us put it out of its misery."

    More leftiebollox. In the Telegraph.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/15/rwanda-immigration-borders-conservative-party-betrayal/

    Leftiebile.
    Mobile: posting derogatory comments on BR about a distance runner.

    Nubile: same as the old bile.

    Cantabile:...

    I'll get my coat.

    Snowmobile: posting derogatory comments on BR about a distance runner in winter.

    Have you got a spare coat you could lend me?
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    rjsterry said:

    skyblueamateur said:

    Why not just call an election, put leaving the ECHR as part of the manifesto and then see whether they have a mandate for it.

    These last few years have been excruciating.

    Because it doesn't actually make any difference to our obligations regarding refoulement. The only way this policy can work is if the Rwandan government completely overhauls its asylum system. I'm not sure it's likely to do that just to keep an ex minister happy.
    I’m intrigued who the next bogeyman is. Where else is there to go?
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Stabile? No not these #toryscum muppets.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    briantrumpet said:

    rjsterry said:

    briantrumpet said:

    pblakeney said:

    "Enough is enough. If this Government refuses to govern – refuses, two unelected leaders in, to carry out its manifesto commitments – then it has no business hanging about. Call a general election, and let us put it out of its misery."

    More leftiebollox. In the Telegraph.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/15/rwanda-immigration-borders-conservative-party-betrayal/

    Leftiebile.
    Mobile: posting derogatory comments on BR about a distance runner.

    Nubile: same as the old bile.

    Cantabile:...

    I'll get my coat.

    Snowmobile: posting derogatory comments on BR about a distance runner in winter.

    Have you got a spare coat you could lend me?
    Automobile - posting derogatory comments about speed limits.

    Already got my coat on.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Pfft, human rights are so restricting on what governments can do to humans...



    I reckon the Tories ought to give it a shot.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    orraloon said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    Shows just how far down the plughole the dUK has been drawn by #toryscum shenanigans when the shiny-faced pig botherer seems relatively sane.

    @rjsterry you don't need to go back that far to get a few examples. you can stop pretending you don't know what I'm talking about now ;)
    You classify as 'bile' my statement of actual fact? I'm offended.
    Lefties often mistake opinion for facts :)
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