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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    At least cones weren't just a concept.

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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    Stevo_666 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:



    I guess they have to stay true to pretending to work on the policies that didn't get them elected.

    I think it is overlooked how much this point is valued by the electorate i.e. ignoring the manifesto that they all campaigned for.
    I'm not sure I follow. You think the electorate don't care, and people aren't talking about that fact? Or you think they do care?
    I think the electorate do care and that a significant number of people voted for levelling up and Boris. They now feel alienated by making-rich-people-richer policies.
    What policies are you referring to?
    I'm sure there are many, but things like improving trains services in the south (with HS2) whilst making them worse in the north (axing HS2). Liz Truss also went big on a few tax cuts for the rich which I think had an impact on voters even if Sunak was slightly more moderate.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    briantrumpet said:

    At least cones weren't just a concept.

    .
    I doubt I am alone in seeing a certain irony in that.
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:



    I guess they have to stay true to pretending to work on the policies that didn't get them elected.

    I think it is overlooked how much this point is valued by the electorate i.e. ignoring the manifesto that they all campaigned for.
    I'm not sure I follow. You think the electorate don't care, and people aren't talking about that fact? Or you think they do care?
    I think the electorate do care and that a significant number of people voted for levelling up and Boris. They now feel alienated by making-rich-people-richer policies.
    What policies are you referring to?
    https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/annex-conservative-manifesto-half-time-analysis.pdf

    There are plenty on here either at risk or abandoned.

    There is also no mention of small boats.
    That actually makes it look like they have done quite a bit.
    Nobody having to sell their homes for care was a big thing a few years ago, abandoned now.

    They campaigned on not raising taxes, but put up NI and have kept the bands frozen.

    Lots of NHS pledges in there not happening. Obviously covid has a part to play in that but I don't think you can chalk it all up to that.

    They've utterly failed on their immigration pledges.

    Plenty of core conservative issues.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    pangolin said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:



    I guess they have to stay true to pretending to work on the policies that didn't get them elected.

    I think it is overlooked how much this point is valued by the electorate i.e. ignoring the manifesto that they all campaigned for.
    I'm not sure I follow. You think the electorate don't care, and people aren't talking about that fact? Or you think they do care?
    I think the electorate do care and that a significant number of people voted for levelling up and Boris. They now feel alienated by making-rich-people-richer policies.
    What policies are you referring to?
    https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/annex-conservative-manifesto-half-time-analysis.pdf

    There are plenty on here either at risk or abandoned.

    There is also no mention of small boats.
    That actually makes it look like they have done quite a bit.
    Nobody having to sell their homes for care was a big thing a few years ago, abandoned now.

    They campaigned on not raising taxes, but put up NI and have kept the bands frozen.

    Lots of NHS pledges in there not happening. Obviously covid has a part to play in that but I don't think you can chalk it all up to that.

    They've utterly failed on their immigration pledges.

    Plenty of core conservative issues.

    And they spaffed more covid money to their mates than Labour ever did on nationalised industries, I suspect.

    I see from the Telegraph, they've identified they can cut £4bn from disability benefits, so at least they are true to form on that.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    rick_chasey said:

    rjsterry said:

    Osborne is probably glad he didn't get a call. Dorries must be absolutely seething that Cameron has just waltzed into the Lords. 🙂

    Surely every major heavyweight in the party has been asked - it's about whether you are up for it.

    Surprised Cameron is up for it, but presumably he could do with some legacy washing and hearing that Blair got asked by israel to help with the peace negotiations probably helped push him to be up for the foreign sec role.
    Seems this is the case.

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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    briantrumpet said:

    At least cones weren't just a concept.

    She's not really 'Minister for Common Sense'. The fact that her appointment was tacked on at the end of the day and is officially Minister without portfolio tells you that it is just a bit of glitter to distract the idiots.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:

    TheBigBean said:

    pangolin said:



    I guess they have to stay true to pretending to work on the policies that didn't get them elected.

    I think it is overlooked how much this point is valued by the electorate i.e. ignoring the manifesto that they all campaigned for.
    I'm not sure I follow. You think the electorate don't care, and people aren't talking about that fact? Or you think they do care?
    I think the electorate do care and that a significant number of people voted for levelling up and Boris. They now feel alienated by making-rich-people-richer policies.
    What policies are you referring to?
    https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/annex-conservative-manifesto-half-time-analysis.pdf

    There are plenty on here either at risk or abandoned.

    There is also no mention of small boats.
    That actually makes it look like they have done quite a bit.
    The definition of 'under way' is pretty generous. For example on the point about providing more diagnostic equipment to hospitals, they have got as far as promising that they will allocate some money towards it. The money hasn't actually been distributed yet, let alone any equipment purchased.
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  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,115
    I was working in a role that had a lot of contact with DWP back in the 2010's. I remember before the 2015 election having a meeting with a senior aide to Esther McVey. They knew she was going to lose her seat, when I asked why she was going to lose, the aide responded "because people can't stand her".

    Says it all really.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It’ll be a sweetener for the nutters to swallow arch remain leader as foreign secretary
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  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,115
    Yeah, the chatter was that it was done to appeal to the GB News and headbanger brigade which sounds about right.
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    I suppose it's quite funny that Farage will come out of the jungle to find Cameron's back in charge of relations with the EU.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    "Former Home Secretary Suella Braverman has accused Rishi Sunak of “manifestly and repeatedly” failing to deliver on key policies.
    In a scathing letter to the prime minister, Ms Braverman told him "your plan is not working"."

    There's a plan?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    She's also accused him of breaking secret promises to her.

    🤣🤣🤣
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    It's all rather delicious.

    Just a shame they are still cosplaying being in government. Mind you, we did know that they didn't give a monkey's about what's best for the UK, given their predilection for unicorns.
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  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    "I have become hoarse urging you to consider legislation to ban the hate marches and help stem the rising tide of racism, intimidation and terrorist glorification threatening community cohesion," she added, accusing the PM of putting off "tough decisions in order to minimise political risk to yourself".

    Well he sacked her, that’s a start I suppose.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    "We had a deal"

    "I trusted you"

    "I made you and I can destroy you!“
    OK I made up that last bit.
    🤣🤣🤣🤣
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    "Don’t worry, we’re just getting started. There’s lots more bad things coming. I promise.”

    ~ Cruella de Vil Havermouth
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    Also loving the idea that you can just get out of international law by writing "notwithstanding..." into a piece of legislation.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    No-one hates the Tories as much as other Tories.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    secretsqirrel said:

    "I have become hoarse urging you to consider legislation to ban the hate marches and help stem the rising tide of racism, intimidation and terrorist glorification threatening community cohesion," she added, accusing the PM of putting off "tough decisions in order to minimise political risk to yourself".

    Well he sacked her, that’s a start I suppose.


    What is it with these people and their utter lack of self awareness? It's quite extraordinary.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    My favourite part of the letter.

    "Dear Prime Minister
    Thank you for your phone call yesterday morning in which you asked me to leave government. While disappointing, this is for the best."

    She could have stopped there.

    PS - Why are some media referring to this as a resignation letter? She was sacked!
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  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    Opposition sits back with popcorn. They really don’t have to do anything.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    secretsqirrel said:

    Opposition sits back with popcorn. They really don’t have to do anything.


    I see that the Tories still have a 56-seat majority? Couldn't they do something with that, given all the problems in the UK? 🤔😜
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    Fantastic stuff. Imagine having a public tantrum that your boss wouldn't let you break "European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), Human Rights Act (HRA) and other international law".
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  • feelgoodlost
    feelgoodlost Posts: 337
    She's absolutely off her tits.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    rjsterry said:

    No-one hates the Tories as much as other Tories.

    Sounds like you haven't been reading most of the posts on here :)
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    No-one hates the Tories as much as other Tories.

    Sounds like you haven't been reading most of the posts on here :)
    Laughing at them, not hating them. You have to admit, this is all quite funny.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    No-one hates the Tories as much as other Tories.

    Sounds like you haven't been reading most of the posts on here :)
    Laughing at them, not hating them. You have to admit, this is all quite funny.
    The bile spewed in here is quite amusing but a little bit sad at the same time :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]

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