Team Sky to end in 2019

daniel_b

orraloon wrote:

Corporate Social Responsibility.

Ah cheers.

daniel_b

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

pray for the jersey...

:shock: It could be a green and yellow jersey - if that's the case, it will be the first Sky\whatever they are then called Jersey I will actually want to own

Actually, the above Lizard\Iguana whetever it is, looks a bit like Froome climbing all over his bike non?

jerry3571

Just watched a bit of the Tour of Colombia and seen a banana fall out in the sprint! Never seen that before Think Bernal and Sosa having arguments on the intermediate Sprint; naughty Boys. Dave B will have to give them a spanking later.

As for Sky and this new Company then it'll be interesting to see what Sky do with this race. If they want to impress this new Sponsor then they will want to win the race (the race being in the company's home country). I know this is not conclusive at all but if they are just there to get the miles in then I reckon this Company might not be the one to take over. It'll be interesting.

I remember the Amore a Vita Team and that was the Pope's anti abortion Cycling team. Hmmm... The old cliche was the Sponsor of American races being Amgen and they are the maker of EPO. Couldn't make it up.

bobmcstuff

thegreatdivide wrote:

inseine wrote:

https://twitter.com/Greenpeace/status/980156546373095431

Tragic :-(

Surely that tweet is wrong??

Do they mean 550 thousand barrels or something?

I mean I know a 550 barrel spill isn't very good for anything living in that exact spot but it's hardly the Exxon Valdez is it.

carbonclem

On the assumption that Team Sky morph into Team Colombia/Eco Petrol and therefore a Columbian based/registered team, that, alongside the closure of numerous Conti teams in 2018 brings us back to 2008/9 as far is British based cycling teams are concerned?
It was a pretty quick turnaround!

jimmythecuckoo

CarbonClem wrote:

It was a pretty quick turnaround!

There was always likely to be a boom and bust of sorts post Wiggins in 2012.

But you are dead right that the loss of JLT and OnePro is equally as concerning as Team SKY ending.

I wonder if the Tour Series needs some form of revamp to become the key element in the domestic calendar again.

Could we trade a bit more on our criterium heritage?

lyn1

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

It was a pretty quick turnaround!

There was always likely to be a boom and bust of sorts post Wiggins in 2012.

But you are dead right that the loss of JLT and OnePro is equally as concerning as Team SKY ending.

I wonder if the Tour Series needs some form of revamp to become the key element in the domestic calendar again.

Could we trade a bit more on our criterium heritage?

There are certainly issues with the domestic programme and it can be improved. However, notwithstanding these failings there are numerous riders who have developed through this system, who, when given the chance, prove they can ride in teams at a higher level and compete effectively, yet they never get a contract
The big issue is the lack of a British sponsored Pro Conti team (Div 2). Pro Conti level is close to being exclusively national teams. A British team adopting this approach would allow 16-20 riders to move from the 3rd to the 2nd Division. Their race program would then include a few top tier World Tour races (which they are currently banned from) plus HC and .1. At the moment they spend much of their time racing non UCI races (5th tier at best), .2 (4th tier) and a few .1 races (3rd tier) eg TdY. If they are lucky they get one 2nd tier (HC) race (ToB).

meursault

CarbonClem wrote:

On the assumption that Team Sky morph into Team Colombia/Eco Petrol and therefore a Columbian based/registered team, that, alongside the closure of numerous Conti teams in 2018 brings us back to 2008/9 as far is British based cycling teams are concerned?
It was a pretty quick turnaround!

Brailsford in Cycling Weekly says deal is very unlikely.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/team-sky-colombia-sponsorship-deal-unlikely-says-dave-brailsford-407802

Alejandrosdog

Daniel B wrote:

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

pray for the jersey...

:shock: It could be a green and yellow jersey - if that's the case, it will be the first Sky\whatever they are then called Jersey I will actually want to own

Actually, the above Lizard\Iguana whetever it is, looks a bit like Froome climbing all over his bike non?

Knees arent all over the place

RichN95.

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Knees arent all over the place

????

rick_chasey

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

It was a pretty quick turnaround!

There was always likely to be a boom and bust of sorts post Wiggins in 2012.

But you are dead right that the loss of JLT and OnePro is equally as concerning as Team SKY ending.

I wonder if the Tour Series needs some form of revamp to become the key element in the domestic calendar again.

Could we trade a bit more on our criterium heritage?

Crits are sh!t unless it’s a local one around a bar where every third person is related to a competitor.

Have to say, I have more patience for a bike race than the vast majority but who’s gonna watch anything that isn’t .1, HC or WT?

That’s enough to fill yer boots and some.

Nowadays I only really get stuck into European WT races and the classics season.

Easily a couple hundred hours in just that,

cougie

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

It was a pretty quick turnaround!

There was always likely to be a boom and bust of sorts post Wiggins in 2012.

But you are dead right that the loss of JLT and OnePro is equally as concerning as Team SKY ending.

I wonder if the Tour Series needs some form of revamp to become the key element in the domestic calendar again.

Could we trade a bit more on our criterium heritage?

What criterium heritage ? It's not that popular.

Alejandrosdog

cougie wrote:

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

It was a pretty quick turnaround!

There was always likely to be a boom and bust of sorts post Wiggins in 2012.

But you are dead right that the loss of JLT and OnePro is equally as concerning as Team SKY ending.

I wonder if the Tour Series needs some form of revamp to become the key element in the domestic calendar again.

Could we trade a bit more on our criterium heritage?

What criterium heritage ? It's not that popular.

Oh I don’t know, standing around some waste land in Hillingdon is epic!

inseine

I don't know if Matteo Tosatto is really in the know but he says an announcement before the Giro is possible.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-sk ... -director/

Alejandrosdog

inseine wrote:

I don't know if Matteo Tosatto is really in the know but he says an announcement before the Giro is possible.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-sk ... -director/

Almost a shame, I like the kit this year. But lets hope they’ve got a good one.

jimmythecuckoo

cougie wrote:

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

It was a pretty quick turnaround!

There was always likely to be a boom and bust of sorts post Wiggins in 2012.

But you are dead right that the loss of JLT and OnePro is equally as concerning as Team SKY ending.

I wonder if the Tour Series needs some form of revamp to become the key element in the domestic calendar again.

Could we trade a bit more on our criterium heritage?

What criterium heritage ? It's not that popular.

The late 80's Kellogg series was very popular, as was the Tour Series in the early years.

cougie

I loved the Kellogg's but I don't think Joe public remembers it.
It's not quite like the Belgians is it ?

top_bhoy

cougie wrote:

I loved the Kellogg's but I don't think Joe public remembers it.
It's not quite like the Belgians is it ?

I remember it...loved the Glasgow City racing. In those days, whenever cycling visited the city, you could literally rock up and stand beside the top pros.

RichN95.

cougie wrote:

I loved the Kellogg's but I don't think Joe public remembers it.
It's not quite like the Belgians is it ?

I watched it in Bristol when I was at uni there. My flat at the time was on the circuit, so I could watch out the window.

Pross

I remember as a kid watching athletics on TV and a few times they had a bike race (Devil) on the athletics track.

I suspect that if you asked the British public to name a cycling race in the country that the Milk Race would still be top answer. Whilst the international races held in the UK are getting bigger crowds than ever the domestic scene has never really caught on outside of the dedicated cycling fan. I'm not sure a diet of crits and a few National A road races is good for the sport over here and is probably the reason why must British pros on the continent have come up through the BC track system.

ovi

Just seen this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/other ... eover.html

RichN95.

ovi wrote:

Just seen this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/other ... eover.html

I'd rather it wasn't. The man's a dick.

sloppyschleckonds

RichN95 wrote:

ovi wrote:

Just seen this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/other ... eover.html

I'd rather it wasn't. The man's a dick.

Sounds like a perfect match

Alejandrosdog

RichN95 wrote:

ovi wrote:

Just seen this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/other ... eover.html

I'd rather it wasn't. The man's a dick.

I understand he speaks highly of you though.

Mad_Malx

I’m not going to give the DM the click. Anyone like to give me gist?

RichN95.

Mad_Malx wrote:

I’m not going to give the DM the click. Anyone like to give me gist?

A more friendly link for you https://road.cc/content/news/257104-bri ... k-team-sky

Alejandrosdog

Based on yesterday’s performance I’d say sky have ended already

awavey

it was always slightly weird imo, Team Sky never really got involved in the domestic scene, road races or crits, I suppose theyd argue why should they as they had bigger races to focus on, and Wiggins started to fill their junior feeder team role, but I always noticed at Tour series events the general public would turn up quite literally expecting to the likes of Froome or Thomas or someone with Team Sky jersey racing, and be faced with a bunch of teams and riders they'd never heard of instead and that was when it was popular

cougie

Pross wrote:

I suspect that if you asked the British public to name a cycling race in the country that the Milk Race would still be top answer.

Maybe if you're asking old people. The milk race ended 26 years ago ? I'd not say the milk race and I'm the wrong side of 50. Did enjoy following it in the days when you had to either wait until the Telegraph reported it the next day or there was a phone number you could dial to get the results that day. None of this internet malarky !

carbonclem

Alejandrosdog wrote:

Based on yesterday’s performance I’d say sky have ended already

That post didn’t even make 24 hours relevance.