TDF 2018, Stage 17: Bagnères-de-Luchon > Saint-Lary-Soulan Col du Portet 25/07/2018 - 65 km *Spo

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    OCDuPalais wrote:

    I don't think it was born while he was racing the Tour though was it? I am sure he is cooked, but add in the Salbutamol brouhaha and the race against who is going to pop first him or Michelle and you can forgive the bloke for not being mentally all in either.

    Then on the other side of things, there's Sagan performing like he has with a divorce awaiting him.
    I'm not sure I understand men sometimes, and I are one.[/quote]

    I reckon when life is complicated bike racing offers a refuge - pedal harder for longer than the opposition - marriage, divorce or kids shouldn't really be an issue.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    I reckon when life is complicated bike racing offers a refuge - pedal harder for longer than the opposition - marriage, divorce or kids shouldn't really be an issue.
    Similarly in the World Cup, Luca Modric won the Player of the Tourament while facing perjury charges in Croatia
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Those speculating about Demare hanging onto team cars without any proof of him having done so are no better than those speculating about Froome doping.
  • effillo
    effillo Posts: 257
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Those speculating about Demare hanging onto team cars without any proof of him having done so are no better than those speculating about Froome doping.

    He has got previous though tbf, and you have to admit the way he has made the time cuts is pretty fishy!
  • yourpaceormine
    yourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes`n`guns wrote:
    OnYourRight wrote:


    AG2R shirt but unknown passport.

    Whats in the link ? I can`t see it at work !
    Di--_m_UYAE7aIl?format=jpg
    I mean what a ******* idot. Thomas did damn well to keep control.

    If you watch the ITV highlights show, same ag2r "fan" tried to touch Nairo. Hard to tell if it was a pat on the arm or an attempted grab.

    (In final km after they came out of the tunnel, guessing 500m ish to go)

    Any news on whether 'the long arm of the law'* has caught up with him?


    * to be read out loud in the style of Peter Sellers's Clousseau
  • argyllflyer
    argyllflyer Posts: 893
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes`n`guns wrote:
    OnYourRight wrote:


    AG2R shirt but unknown passport.

    Whats in the link ? I can`t see it at work !
    Di--_m_UYAE7aIl?format=jpg
    I mean what a ******* idot. Thomas did damn well to keep control.

    If you watch the ITV highlights show, same ag2r "fan" tried to touch Nairo. Hard to tell if it was a pat on the arm or an attempted grab.

    (In final km after they came out of the tunnel, guessing 500m ish to go)

    Any news on whether 'the long arm of the law'* has caught up with him?


    * to be read out loud in the style of Peter Sellers's Clousseau

    The 'lieu...?' :?
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    effillo wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Those speculating about Demare hanging onto team cars without any proof of him having done so are no better than those speculating about Froome doping.

    He has got previous though tbf, and you have to admit the way he has made the time cuts is pretty fishy!
    That's exactly the same form of logic the nutters in the Clinic use to cast doubt on Froome. "TUEs, Jiffy bags, salbutamol and you have to admit the way he has improved so dramatically is fishy."

    It's unsubstantiated muck unless there comes a time when it is proven to the contrary.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    DeadCalm wrote:
    effillo wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Those speculating about Demare hanging onto team cars without any proof of him having done so are no better than those speculating about Froome doping.

    He has got previous though tbf, and you have to admit the way he has made the time cuts is pretty fishy!
    That's exactly the same form of logic the nutters in the Clinic use to cast doubt on Froome. "TUEs, Jiffy bags, salbutamol and you have to admit the way he has improved so dramatically is fishy."

    It's unsubstantiated muck unless there comes a time when it is proven to the contrary.

    To be fair speculating about stuff is a big part of being on a forum, or you'd be better just skipping to the news section and also I think most people are just reporting on what Greipel said, which is interesting i think, rather than speculating whther he actually did it.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Greipel has taken it back.
    _
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    https://twitter.com/albertsecall/status/1022240955544596480
    ^Froome really not happy with his policeman buddy :P
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Nor should he be really...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    adr82 wrote:
    https://twitter.com/albertsecall/status/1022240955544596480
    ^Froome really not happy with his policeman buddy :P
    It wasn't deliberate though, it's not as though he pepper sprayed him, well he didn't.
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    “My apology go out to @ArnaudDemare and @GroupamaFDJ as I have had not the right to make that tweet based on GPS time, which can be wrong, plus I got the incorrect times he lost on the last hill. I’m sorry. Lesson learned: don’t tweet about sth you are not part off.”
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    People mouthing off on Twitter, whodathunk it?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    adr82 wrote:
    https://twitter.com/albertsecall/status/1022240955544596480
    ^Froome really not happy with his policeman buddy :P


    Not surprising, especially after what happened to Nibali. Another shot, as it happened.

    Di9nKO7X4AAbX_3.jpg

    Is that Demare looking out of the window? :lol:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    adr82 wrote:
    https://twitter.com/albertsecall/status/1022240955544596480
    ^Froome really not happy with his policeman buddy :P


    Not surprising, especially after what happened to Nibali. Another shot, as it happened.

    Di9nKO7X4AAbX_3.jpg

    Is that Demare looking out of the window? :lol:

    Post of the day

    (he was just in front I think)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Ha, very good.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    My suggestion: they put Froome in a generic non-team jacket to reduce the chances of random passers by having a go at him/trying to push him off, and this had the unintended effect that the police didn't recognise him either.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes`n`guns wrote:
    OnYourRight wrote:


    AG2R shirt but unknown passport.

    Whats in the link ? I can`t see it at work !
    Di--_m_UYAE7aIl?format=jpg
    I mean what a ******* idot. Thomas did damn well to keep control.

    If you watch the ITV highlights show, same ag2r "fan" tried to touch Nairo. Hard to tell if it was a pat on the arm or an attempted grab.

    (In final km after they came out of the tunnel, guessing 500m ish to go)

    Any news on whether 'the long arm of the law'* has caught up with him?


    * to be read out loud in the style of Peter Sellers's Clousseau

    https://twitter.com/afbdijkstra/status/ ... 9822374913

    Same guy with Nairo
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,891
    If I had a bodyguard I would have expected a bit more.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    TailWindHome wrote:
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes`n`guns wrote:
    OnYourRight wrote:


    AG2R shirt but unknown passport.

    Whats in the link ? I can`t see it at work !
    Di--_m_UYAE7aIl?format=jpg
    I mean what a ******* idot. Thomas did damn well to keep control.

    If you watch the ITV highlights show, same ag2r "fan" tried to touch Nairo. Hard to tell if it was a pat on the arm or an attempted grab.

    (In final km after they came out of the tunnel, guessing 500m ish to go)

    Any news on whether 'the long arm of the law'* has caught up with him?


    * to be read out loud in the style of Peter Sellers's Clousseau

    https://twitter.com/afbdijkstra/status/ ... 9822374913

    Same guy with Nairo

    Avondetappe were on the ball, last night.
    They showed it and he did make contact and managed to cause Thomas to slightly lose his balance.

    Over to you Rick, for what was said about it.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • hanshotfirst
    hanshotfirst Posts: 400
    adr82 wrote:
    https://twitter.com/albertsecall/status/1022240955544596480
    ^Froome really not happy with his policeman buddy :P

    "Froome is so boring, never shows any emotion"
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    Was it last year or the year before when Froome cracked trying to follow a break by Aru on a MTF. He was overtaken by one of his own domestiques before the finishline . He still won the tour though.
    Sky aren't going to do a Finestre type plan for Froome now that Thomas is so far ahead, but I still think he'll race for second place. and get it
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,651
    adr82 wrote:
    https://twitter.com/albertsecall/status/1022240955544596480
    ^Froome really not happy with his policeman buddy :P

    I wonder if he would have endeared himself more to the French public if he'd used "enculer vous" instead of the Anglo-Saxon?
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  • hypster
    hypster Posts: 1,229
    mrfpb wrote:
    Was it last year or the year before when Froome cracked trying to follow a break by Aru on a MTF. He was overtaken by one of his own domestiques before the finishline . He still won the tour though.
    Sky aren't going to do a Finestre type plan for Froome now that Thomas is so far ahead, but I still think he'll race for second place. and get it

    I'm a big Froome fan but don't see how he's going to manage that based on how he has performed in this Tour so far. He'll be lucky to stay on the podium with Roglic breathing down his neck now.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,651
    hypster wrote:
    mrfpb wrote:
    Was it last year or the year before when Froome cracked trying to follow a break by Aru on a MTF. He was overtaken by one of his own domestiques before the finishline . He still won the tour though.
    Sky aren't going to do a Finestre type plan for Froome now that Thomas is so far ahead, but I still think he'll race for second place. and get it

    I'm a big Froome fan but don't see how he's going to manage that based on how he has performed in this Tour so far. He'll be lucky to stay on the podium with Roglic breathing down his neck now.

    I don't see how he'd be able to grab more than a few seconds without risking Thomas's yellow either. Friday's finish is downhill and Sky will want it ridden as safely as possible, so they won't let Froome open it up. If Roglic goes then he'll likely be allowed to sit on his wheel - if he can follow - but that forces Dumoulin to race.

    Obviously the TT will be decisive if the standings remain as they are, and it's a fairly technical winding course with a lot of rolling hills, so there are lots of places to crash and lose a race - for all the GC.
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  • tim000
    tim000 Posts: 718
    cant see froome attacking at the risk of thomas cracking and losing the lead.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,314
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Obviously the TT will be decisive if the standings remain as they are, and it's a fairly technical winding course with a lot of rolling hills, so there are lots of places to crash and lose a race - for all the GC.
    The TT route is far from standard and a lot could happen, good or bad, for all podium contenders.
    Bad legs, accidents, good legs and a shot at glory... At least GT will know is required as last man on the road.
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  • hypster
    hypster Posts: 1,229
    PBlakeney wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Obviously the TT will be decisive if the standings remain as they are, and it's a fairly technical winding course with a lot of rolling hills, so there are lots of places to crash and lose a race - for all the GC.
    The TT route is far from standard and a lot could happen, good or bad, for all podium contenders.
    Bad legs, accidents, good legs and a shot at glory... At least GT will know is required as last man on the road.

    Won't help him much if he is the one to crash as per the Dauphine prologue. He only lost 20 seconds or so there but it could be worse, especially if Dumoulin puts him under pressure time-wise. I think Sky have got to try and bump Froome up a bit as insurance and they'd be mad not to if has at all has it in him.

    I really couldn't understand why Thomas didn't attack a bit earlier on the last climb yesterday. When Roglic attacked and Thomas went with him they gapped Dumoulin and then let him back on. Thomas should have kept going when Roglic slowed.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    My suggestion: they put Froome in a generic non-team jacket to reduce the chances of random passers by having a go at him/trying to push him off, and this had the unintended effect that the police didn't recognise him either.

    You're probably right. But he still has a number one on his bike and NO spectator is THAT skinny. I know he's thin but I've only ever seen him compared to other cyclists, next to mortals in those pictures... :shock:

    And it's a sad state really that they pro-riders have to have bodyguards.
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