Are freehubs supposed to be a total pita to get off??

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  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/visi ... prod137637

    3.9 stars out of 5, with the majority of reviewers giving them 5 stars, so I suggest you shut and and stop talking about stuff you obviously know fuck all about.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    I will be out on my bike today, will you. I can lend you a wheel, would you prefer Aluminium or Carbon rims.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Webboo wrote:
    I will be out on my bike today, will you. I can lend you a wheel, would you prefer Aluminium or Carbon rims.


    Ill have your carbon wheels please.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    I've just dropped it off at Halfords. Should be done by about 5 pm the guy said.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Webboo wrote:
    I will be out on my bike today, will you. I can lend you a wheel, would you prefer Aluminium or Carbon rims.


    Ill have your carbon wheels please.
    I will leave then in the log store at the side of the house. Just put them back when you’ve finished with them.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Webboo wrote:
    Webboo wrote:
    I will be out on my bike today, will you. I can lend you a wheel, would you prefer Aluminium or Carbon rims.


    Ill have your carbon wheels please.
    I will leave then in the log store at the side of the house. Just put them back when you’ve finished with them.

    thanks thats Brill. Ill pop down to Halfords and ask them to fit them for me.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    I just collected it from Halfords, and the said there was nothing he could do about because it's all sealed, short of replacing the hub. That's strange because from I've seen of the parts online the freehub on my wheels is not sealed, but I don't know that for a fact as I couldn't get it apart. He said he rode it around the car park and span on the stand and it only made it a bit of noise, which is also strang because sometimes on occasion it's made quite a loud noise for me. He was adamant that it was ok an safe to ride. What do you think?
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    I think you need a second opinion. It’s all very well some bloke in Halfords saying it’s ok, it’s not his nads at risk. Plus I doubt very much the free hub is sealed.

    So I’d get two more opinions since Halfords mans doesn’t count.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    I think you need a second opinion. It’s all very well some bloke in Halfords saying it’s ok, it’s not his nads at risk. Plus I doubt very much the free hub is sealed.

    So I’d get two more opinions since Halfords mans doesn’t count.

    That means having to travel somewhere, as there no other bike shops here.

    And I know at least one version of freehub for my wheels is sealed. People have said that it's sealed.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    Is there no way I can re-lube it properly without dismantling it? When I injected some lube in there before it fixed it for a while, until I left my bike out in the sun outside work for a good part of the day, then it started making noises when I rode home.

    I came across a post from Sheldon Brown on the net the other day, and he reckoned it was possible and that a freehub only needed to be removed if you were replacing it. I couldn't find any technique on his website though.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Take the free hub off if the bearings are sealed use a craft knife or a pick and remove the seals. Flush out with degreaser allow to dry. Pack with grease and replace the seals . If the bearings are cup and cone type remove using a magnet clean bearings and races thoroughly before reinstalling and greasing.

    The free hub can’t be that sealed it rotates around an axle. If you want to leave it insitu and try to fill with grease see if there’s a seal on the top or grease port.

    It sounds like a basic hub so I suspect there won’t be a grease port.

    If when you’ve worked out how it comes apart and the sealed bearings are knackered then replace them. If it’s cup and cone and pitted you will prob have to buy a replacement free hub or quite possibly a new hub/ wheel .

    Oh and congratulations for living in a place big enough for a Halfords but too small for any bike repair options.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Right I’ve watched the video just buy yourself
    A new free hub body and replace the duff one
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    But I can't get it off! That's the whole point. If i could get it off I wouldn't have a problem. And I still think that the guy is wrong and my version is not sealed. I'm beginning to wonder if he actually took it apart at all, and just assumed it was sealed.
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    Vision wheelset?
    You aint alone in struggling by all accounts.
    I dont have a 12mm allen, I suspect not many people have either.
    Sounds fit for the skip to be brutal, if you dont want to trust it.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    JGSI wrote:
    Vision wheelset?
    You aint alone in struggling by all accounts.
    I dont have a 12mm allen, I suspect not many people have either.
    Sounds fit for the skip to be brutal, if you dont want to trust it.

    I don't need a 12 mm allen key. What I need is some way to hold the axle securely enough so I can apply enough force to undo the bolt. One suggestion I've seen for stripped allen bolts is to jam a latex glove in there. I might give that a go, unless anyone else has any other suggestions?
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    The part that has a shredded slot for the allen key? 5mm? I'll keep guessing.
    Have you sourced a replacement, because you are not going to re install it afterwards, are you?
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    JGSI wrote:
    The part that has a shredded slot for the allen key? 5mm? I'll keep guessing.
    Have you sourced a replacement, because you are not going to re install it afterwards, are you?

    Yes, 5 mm. Why do I need to replace it if I manage to get the freehub off? The only reason I can see is so that it's easier to do next time.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    I'm not even sure where to get another axle from, or how hard it would be to extract it.
  • I have just done this job today. Total nightmare and a shit system. Vision team 3 disc wheels. Have a stupid locknut on the drive side holding the bearing in (hah!)
    Wrecked the wafer thin lock nut, split the freehub body and the drive side bearing still won`t come out.
    Shop had never seen anything like it, lent me a 17mm cone spanner and I managed to destroy the hub in 10 min.
    Piece of shit and I`m not rebuilding them.
    Bin and new wheelset with serviceable hubs next.
    Trek,,,, too cool for school ,, apparently
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    I'm now thinking they didn't do the job that I asked them to do. He told me he'd been riding around the car park and bouncing it around or something, but that's not when it makes the noise it's when I'm freewheeling. I think all he was doing was a basic hub service, but it's not anything to do with the hub itself.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    He told me I'd need to have the whole hub replaced. Why would I need to do that when I could just replace the freehub? i think he was talking bollocks.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Bungle73 wrote:
    He told me I'd need to have the whole hub replaced. Why would I need to do that when I could just replace the freehub? i think he was talking ****.
    Maybe he’d read bike and guns post.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    The only good thing about is that I didn't get charged for it.
    Webboo wrote:
    Bungle73 wrote:
    He told me I'd need to have the whole hub replaced. Why would I need to do that when I could just replace the freehub? i think he was talking ****.
    Maybe he’d read bike and guns post.

    The what?
  • My post about 5 posts ago
    Trek,,,, too cool for school ,, apparently
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    My post about 5 posts ago
    Ah.

    I've feeling that if I hadn't been misled into trying to undo it the wrong way (and thereby stripping the allen slot and simultaneously making the bolt even tighter than it already was) I might have been able to get it off with little fuss.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    I spent some time in Cuba some years ago. I suspect that without the benifit of youtube instruction and shed loads of tools that they would have dismantled serviced and got it back together and working in no time.

    You just need to stop whining and looking for someone else to solve all your propblems. HTFU and get on with it. Work it out, it’s not impossible if you apply yourself; and frankly if you take it to halfords and expect more than you got youre living in dream land.

    Happy Friday
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Bungle73 wrote:
    I spent some time in Cuba some years ago. I suspect that without the benifit of youtube instruction and shed loads of tools that they would have dismantled serviced and got it back together and working in no time.

    You just need to stop whining and looking for someone else to solve all your propblems. HTFU and get on with it. Work it out, it’s not impossible if you apply yourself; and frankly if you take it to halfords and expect more than you got youre living in dream land.

    Happy Friday

    If you're so ******* clever tell me how to get it off? You don't ******* know do you? And where the fark else was I supposed to take it???????

    I haven't got the hub here have I? no, but you have it there so stop whining like a baby and either service and repair it or buy a new one. People have spent ages here trying to help you but at some point you've got to act like an adult and deal with the problem.

    Own the problem and develop some skills and knowledge.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    wow - first meltdown of the day and it's only 10am...

    If you claim to be acting like an adult, your posts suggest otherwise. Your posts are littered with abuse, but 'scum' is a bit ott...
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    edited August 2018
    Imposter wrote:
    wow - first meltdown of the day and it's only 10am...

    If you claim to be acting like an adult, your posts suggest otherwise. Your posts are littered with abuse, but 'scum' is a bit ott...

    Er no it's not when I've had some idiot troll come on here sitting in a chair far away telling me how I'm an idiot for not being able to do it myself, and how I'm a "baby" for daring to complain about it, when the guy has ZERO idea about how to it himself. And then goes and tells me to spend hundreds of pounds on new wheels. I stand by what I said.