Criterium du Dauphine 2018 Spoiler nee chat

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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Why is a criterium when it is not a criterium?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    inseine wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    No Bernal in the Sky so a couple of you need to nip over to the PTP thread

    Thomas, Kwiatkowski, Castroviejo, G-Hart, Moscon, Rowe, van Baarle

    Thanks. So, he's more or less likely to be at the Tour now?
    No idea. He's probably doing the Tour of Switzerland.
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  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    RichN95 wrote:
    No Bernal in the Sky so a couple of you need to nip over to the PTP thread

    Thomas, Kwiatkowski, Castroviejo, G-Hart, Moscon, Rowe, van Baarle
    A bit light on the climbers
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    RichN95 wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    No Bernal in the Sky so a couple of you need to nip over to the PTP thread

    Thomas, Kwiatkowski, Castroviejo, G-Hart, Moscon, Rowe, van Baarle

    Thanks. So, he's more or less likely to be at the Tour now?
    No idea. He's probably doing the Tour of Switzerland.


    Nope, he's currently down to ride La Route d'Occitanie.
    "The what?" I hear you say. "Sud" in other words.
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  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    RichN95 wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    No Bernal in the Sky so a couple of you need to nip over to the PTP thread

    Thomas, Kwiatkowski, Castroviejo, G-Hart, Moscon, Rowe, van Baarle

    Thanks. So, he's more or less likely to be at the Tour now?
    No idea. He's probably doing the Tour of Switzerland.


    Nope, he's currently down to ride La Route d'Occitanie.
    "The what?" I hear you say. "Sud" in other words.

    Seems to be where the big boys go for tour prep. Why is this, no sprint stages or something or just a lower key race?
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    RichN95 wrote:
    No Bernal in the Sky so a couple of you need to nip over to the PTP thread

    Thomas, Kwiatkowski, Castroviejo, G-Hart, Moscon, Rowe, van Baarle
    A bit light on the climbers
    4 out of 7. I suppose they needed some fire power for the TTT
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    The 35km is a team TT isn't it rather than individual?

    EDIT - this was in response to comments upthread about Soler etc - diff ball game for him as a TTT vs Sky rather than individual.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    The 35km is a team TT isn't it rather than individual?

    EDIT - this was in response to comments upthread about Soler etc - diff ball game for him as a TTT vs Sky rather than individual.
    Oh yeah. So it is. Rather changes my PTP selection. But if I change now Jungels is going to win, so I'm not going to change.

    Talking of PTP, the pickers have billed this as Bardet v Thomas

    GC Picks
    10 Bardet
    6 Thomas
    4 Nibali
    2 Yates, Zakarin
    1 Caruso, Jungels, Martin, Soler, Tolhoek

    Prologue Picks
    12 Van Emden
    10 Thomas
    3 Bohli
    2 Brandle, Campanaerts
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    RichN95 wrote:
    Prologue Picks
    12 Van Emden
    10 Thomas
    3 Bohli
    2 Brandle, Campanaerts
    Interestingly all but Thomas finished their TT before the PTP 12 o'clock cut off. Easy points for the shrewd pundit. I won't reveal who is winning as this isn't the spoiler thread yet
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Is there no uk coverage for this, or is the flit-induced exhaustion starting to take its toll on me?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    The_Boy wrote:
    Is there no uk coverage for this, or is the flit-induced exhaustion starting to take its toll on me?
    Eurosport 2, 12.30
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    RichN95 wrote:
    The_Boy wrote:
    Is there no uk coverage for this, or is the flit-induced exhaustion starting to take its toll on me?
    Eurosport 2, 12.30

    Ah. I assumed they would have started ages ago with it being such an early finish. Guess I'll go unpack some more boxes then.
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  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    Barguil +49 seconds on a 6.6km time trial.... ooopps....
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  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    Gee's down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Thomas must be a very considerate lover given how often we see him going down.
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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,115
    As far as I'm aware the Roselend is still not open (rocks) and the weather could be a lot of fun next week. I'll be over there.

    It will open on the 15th June to the public but is currently passable and the CdD should be able to go over.
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  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Thomas down again.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,115
    phreak wrote:
    The Col du Mont Noir looks like an interesting climb (there appear to be a lot of them in Vercors tbh), but I'm guessing they're not going at it from this end?

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    I've skied over the Col du Mont Noir :-).

    Your photo is from the D22 Gorges du Nant, they are taking the D31, the other interesting climb is the D292 via Presles. So they seem to be avoiding the two most interesting climbs.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    GC times:

    Kwiatkowski (leader)
    Jungels +7s
    Alaphilippe +14
    Caruso +15
    Zakarin +18
    Soler +20
    Yates +21
    Thomas +21
    Bardet +23
    Benoot +24
    Nibali +24
    Latour +26
    Martin +29
    Buchmann +32
    Gaudu +33
    Barguil +49
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  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    G the ultimate understudy for Froome - crashing his TT bike on a right hander in homage.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    I just switched on and Little Flower is being interviewed. Did he win?


    HE DID!

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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,598
    I just switched on and Little Flower is being interviewed. Did he win?


    HE DID!

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  • onyourright
    onyourright Posts: 509
    Thomas crashed and lost only 21 seconds to Kwiatkowski on a 6.6 km course? He must have been moving the rest of the time.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Thomas crashed and lost only 21 seconds to Kwiatkowski on a 6.6 km course? He must have been moving the rest of the time.
    He was only 2s slower than Kwiatkowski in the second half.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    davidof wrote:
    phreak wrote:
    The Col du Mont Noir looks like an interesting climb (there appear to be a lot of them in Vercors tbh), but I'm guessing they're not going at it from this end?

    8077521849_719fa216b8_b.jpg

    I've skied over the Col du Mont Noir :-).

    Your photo is from the D22 Gorges du Nant, they are taking the D31, the other interesting climb is the D292 via Presles. So they seem to be avoiding the two most interesting climbs.

    not to mention the col d la machine...D76 IIRC

    one problem I think with those AMAZINGLY under-rated drome climbs is getting the race convoy through the cliff tunnels. a lot are height restricted. perhaps even a car with bikes on its roof.

    you next to never see those roads in the tour..would be interested to know if i'm wrong... the rousett is used a fair bit but it isn't one of those cliff huggers.
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  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Sky need to forget about lightweight fabrics and orcas and need to think about leather with a GPS for Thomas and his inevitable off-roading in the Tour. If he makes it that far.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Quality from little flower.

    Another Thomas crash to add to the album. That said if he crashed and still only finished 21 seconds down then he's obviously in pretty good shape.
  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    Milton50 wrote:
    Quality from little flower.

    Another Thomas crash to add to the album. That said if he crashed and still only finished 21 seconds down then he's obviously in pretty good shape.

    Yeah he had a proper lie down too didn't he
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332
    Only popped in to make a facetious joke asking whether Thomas had fallen off yet and, well, yeah...
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    Pross wrote:
    Am I the only one who finds this race a bit of an anti-climax these days? It used to be much more of a battle of those who were targeting the Tour and a bit of a barometer to their form.
    I think something about the 'flavour' of the race changed (to its disadvantage) when ASO took it over from the regional newspaper (8-10 years ago).

    Also, at least this year, I think it may be seen as too hard a test/training for the TdF, when the Tour de Suisse and the Route d'Occitanie are there as easier alternates.