2019 Transfers - Rumours and Confirmations

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  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    Jolien D'Hoore signs for Boels for 2019,sounds like 2020 too as they talk about track ambitions for Tokyo as well in the press release
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,159
    Cruff wrote:
    Nest year's pro scene in Britain will look very, very different. Hoping that a few large players come in with sponsorship budgets, or I'd imagine all of the riders will need part time jobs to carry on riding.

    I'm not convinced riding at Continental level on the UK scene has ever really justified a full time salary. If anything the quality of races available to them is lower than it was back in the 90s.
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    Pross wrote:
    Cruff wrote:
    Nest year's pro scene in Britain will look very, very different. Hoping that a few large players come in with sponsorship budgets, or I'd imagine all of the riders will need part time jobs to carry on riding.

    I'm not convinced riding at Continental level on the UK scene has ever really justified a full time salary. If anything the quality of races available to them is lower than it was back in the 90s.
    True. Maybe JLT folding will have a net positive effect re wage disparity - Bibs doesn't seem to have been struggling financially, so maybe they paid a lot more than the rest of the conti teams in the UK?
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Also rumoured Q.S are struggling to keep Mas...
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,382
    iainf72 wrote:
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Is this because they don't want him, or don't have the budget to keep him?
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    r0bh wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Is this because they don't want him, or don't have the budget to keep him?

    Money woes
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    iainf72 wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Is this because they don't want him, or don't have the budget to keep him?

    Money woes

    They must have a massive wage bill with the team they have
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,716
    I like Gaviria but I just can't grow to like UAE/Team Emirates.

    #conflict.
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    iainf72 wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Is this because they don't want him, or don't have the budget to keep him?

    Money woes
    There still looking for a sponsor aren’t they?
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  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,382
    inseine wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Is this because they don't want him, or don't have the budget to keep him?

    Money woes
    There still looking for a sponsor aren’t they?

    And not finding one presumably. Says a lot about the sport that the most successful team of 2018 is scratching around for cash :?
  • markwb79
    markwb79 Posts: 937
    Sunweb are losing more riders than they are signing.

    Wonder if Dumoulin will move teams by the end of the year.
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  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    r0bh wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Is this because they don't want him, or don't have the budget to keep him?

    Money woes
    There still looking for a sponsor aren’t they?

    And not finding one presumably. Says a lot about the sport that the most successful team of 2018 is scratching around for cash :?
    Been living beyond their means for years. Bakala and Kok have been bankrolling their star salaries for ages - roster is ridiculously stacked and I presume some slightly more challenging financial forecasts due to uncertainties around Brexit, Trump, Putin etc have caused Bakala to re-evaluate
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  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    Understand from a financial POV that moves make sense for Gaviria - it's his way of paying the bills after all - but from a pure sporting position that looks like a massive backward step.

    Are UAE going to be able to support him in GT sprints and still have Aru / Martin going for GC? They struggle to do one at the moment.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Is this because they don't want him, or don't have the budget to keep him?

    Money woes

    They must have a massive wage bill with the team they have

    Think GIlbert, having banked his cash from BMC years, is on some sort of 'average' salary with a heavy win bonus structure, and is clearly loving life with QS in the last couple of years of his career. Also on a 1 year at a time arrangement probably?

    Terpstra won't have earned anywhere near Gilbert's level over his career, so prob wanted 1 final decent deal, which QS couldn't / wouldn't do. They've tended to move on some of the older / likely higher earners in the past few years, which you can't argue with given their 2018 season.

    Gaviria would have been looking for an increase and a multi year deal you'd suspect. Poss same with Mas.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    YorkshireRaw wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Gaviria leaving Quick.Step a year early and moving to UAE

    Is this because they don't want him, or don't have the budget to keep him?

    Money woes

    They must have a massive wage bill with the team they have

    Think GIlbert, having banked his cash from BMC years, is on some sort of 'average' salary with a heavy win bonus structure, and is clearly loving life with QS in the last couple of years of his career. Also on a 1 year at a time arrangement probably?

    Terpstra won't have earned anywhere near Gilbert's level over his career, so prob wanted 1 final decent deal, which QS couldn't / wouldn't do. They've tended to move on some of the older / likely higher earners in the past few years, which you can't argue with given their 2018 season.

    Gaviria would have been looking for an increase and a multi year deal you'd suspect. Poss same with Mas.

    makes sense, it will be interesting to see if they manage to sweep all before them this year.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,391
    Bernal has signed a new 5 year deal at Sky
    https://www.teamsky.com/article/egan-be ... r-contract
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Bernal has signed a new 5 year deal at Sky
    https://www.teamsky.com/article/egan-be ... r-contract

    Bloody Sky offering a rider stability and certainty for 5 years. Who do they think they are?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,716
    hahaha
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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,771
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Bernal has signed a new 5 year deal at Sky
    https://www.teamsky.com/article/egan-be ... r-contract

    I thought Sky were dropping the team like a hot potato after the negative publicity?? Its what the internet told me!! :lol:
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    He's also returning to racing in Italy this weekend
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  • ademort
    ademort Posts: 1,924
    ademort wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    rozzer32 wrote:
    Wout Van Aert terminates his contract. Guess he will start his lotto jumbo contract a year early.

    How do you say Karma in Dutch..? (or irish?)

    We havent heard the last of this.Van Aerts solicitor has sent a letter saying there was a serious incident this weekend which makes it impossible for Wout to carry on for Sniper Cycling team and he wishes to cancel the contract urgently. Van Aerts solicitor will not comment on the incident but says he is confident that if a tribunal is involved they will find in his clients favour.


    WvA has just announced his new one man team and sponsors . His team will be known as the Cibel-Cebon Offroad team.Cibel are an orange juice manufacturer and will be his main sponsor.He will also have the names of
    Domo Elektro, G&V Energy Group and Heylen Vastgoed on his clothing as co-sponsors.With WvA and his former employer there will be a court case however Van Aerts lawyer is confident his client will be a free man to race for whoever he wishes when all the truth is known.
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,235
    iainf72 wrote:
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Bernal has signed a new 5 year deal at Sky
    https://www.teamsky.com/article/egan-be ... r-contract

    Bloody Sky offering a rider stability and certainty for 5 years. Who do they think they are?
    A very shrewd move by Sky bagging themselves the latest Colombian 'Next Big Thing'. If they're lucky he'll go on to replicate the success of Uran, Quintana, Henao and Chaves.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,449
    DeadCalm wrote:
    A very shrewd move by Sky bagging themselves the latest Colombian 'Next Big Thing'. If they're lucky he'll go on to replicate the success of Uran, Quintana, Henao and Chaves.

    So two GT wins and nine podium finishes, plus a dozen or so GT stage wins?

    I reckon they'd be quite happy with that.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Cavendish staying at DiData
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    ^is Bernie carrying on? See he’s down for PT tomorrow.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,605
    Are they on Giant next year?
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Good on him, I bet he’s getting paid a fortune too, he’s got to be odds on for a tour or four
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,235
    andyp wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    A very shrewd move by Sky bagging themselves the latest Colombian 'Next Big Thing'. If they're lucky he'll go on to replicate the success of Uran, Quintana, Henao and Chaves.

    So two GT wins and nine podium finishes, plus a dozen or so GT stage wins?

    I reckon they'd be quite happy with that.
    Really? They've given him an almost unheard of five year deal. If he goes on to have a similar career to Quintana I imagine they'd be reasonably disappointed. If he has no more than the success of the other three I suspect they will be very disappointed.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    DeadCalm wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    A very shrewd move by Sky bagging themselves the latest Colombian 'Next Big Thing'. If they're lucky he'll go on to replicate the success of Uran, Quintana, Henao and Chaves.

    So two GT wins and nine podium finishes, plus a dozen or so GT stage wins?

    I reckon they'd be quite happy with that.
    Really? They've given him an almost unheard of five year deal. If he goes on to have a similar career to Quintana I imagine they'd be reasonably disappointed. If he has no more than the success of the other three I suspect they will be very disappointed.

    If he has the same results as Quintana had by the time he is 26 (ie 5 years older) it would make him easily the second most successful Sky rider in their history. Quintana hasn't been exciting for a long time but the Sky train would appear ideally suited to him - so it is very likely he would won more in that situation, as well as confirming our prejudices about Sky's boring approach to riding.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,235
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    A very shrewd move by Sky bagging themselves the latest Colombian 'Next Big Thing'. If they're lucky he'll go on to replicate the success of Uran, Quintana, Henao and Chaves.

    So two GT wins and nine podium finishes, plus a dozen or so GT stage wins?

    I reckon they'd be quite happy with that.
    Really? They've given him an almost unheard of five year deal. If he goes on to have a similar career to Quintana I imagine they'd be reasonably disappointed. If he has no more than the success of the other three I suspect they will be very disappointed.

    If he has the same results as Quintana had by the time he is 26 (ie 5 years older) it would make him easily the second most successful Sky rider in their history. Quintana hasn't been exciting for a long time but the Sky train would appear ideally suited to him - so it is very likely he would won more in that situation, as well as confirming our prejudices about Sky's boring approach to riding.
    Maybe.

    The fact that Sky have given Bernal a 5 year deal suggests to me that they have bought into the whole 'guaranteed to dominate the TDF for the next generation' nonsense that has been spouted, here as well as elsewhere. The guy is a very promising prospect and he may well turn out to be the next dominant GT rider but it is far from guaranteed, especially taken in the context of other Colombians showing early promise and fading later in their career.

    Given the significance a decent TT seems to have in regards to winning the Tour (surely, what Sky care about more than anything else), I'd personally be much more inclined to throw the money at Mikkel Bjerg.

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