**spoiler** Paris - Roubaix 2018

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Shirley Basso wrote:
    I would say terpstra should have won it but for tactics, wrong place, wrong time when Sagan attached.

    He was very gracious in defeat as well I might add.

    Yeah. I think it was easier for him to lose having completed the second part of his childhood dream a week earlier.

    We can see from the finale (which we missed watching Sagan) that Terpstra was the only rider close to Sagan in form that day.

    He dropped a pretty serious bunch of riders.
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  • onyourright
    onyourright Posts: 509
    It would have been fun to see Terpstra try to drop his group much earlier and chase Sagan and Dillier alone. Of course that must have seemed a suicidal option to him at the time, but he finished so strongly that it just might have worked. Emphasis on the might.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    OnYourRight wrote:
    It would have been fun to see Terpstra try to drop his group much earlier and chase Sagan and Dillier alone. Of course that must have seemed a suicidal option to him at the time, but he finished so strongly that it just might have worked. Emphasis on the might.

    I'm not sure that'd have worked tbh.

    Sagan had great legs on Sunday, and particularly in Roubaix, fortune favours the brave.

    It's pretty much the only one dayer nowadays where a favourite going into the attack at 50km+ to go is a serious option.

    We were flabbergasted by Gilbert in Flanders because it was so rare; in Roubaix it really isn't.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,910
    Terpstra still finished 57s behind, so only really gained over his group at the end.
  • On_What
    On_What Posts: 516
    Not sure what Terpstra was about at the weekend, he didn't seem like he wanted to win. A lot of riders looked out of form and generally uninterested, hence my comment about Van Aert earlier. WVA had started picking up the odd attack around the period when Sagan had attacked, and to my mind looked like he wanted to be part of a smaller group that could jump clear and lose GVA etc. Not sure what happened to Stybar, he seemed like he could do something but got caught with Gilbert.

    it wasn't a classic and find Sagan a very difficult watch on TV. God knows why he pulled out a pair of ski goggles at the end.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    Wouldn't you still back Sagan in a sprint against Dillier and Terpstra?
  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    On_What wrote:
    God knows why he pulled out a pair of ski goggles at the end.
    It’s his “thing”. He’s sponsored by the company that makes them.

    I like Sagan. He seems to annoy cycling “purists”. This is a good thing.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    lettingthedaysgoby wrote:
    On_What wrote:
    God knows why he pulled out a pair of ski goggles at the end.
    It’s his “thing”. He’s sponsored by the company that makes them.

    I like Sagan. He seems to annoy cycling “purists”. This is a good thing.

    Same reason Anthony Joshua went to his weigh in wearing a pair of headphones round his neck. I don't know how much money they get for that sort of thing, but hope it's substantial.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    lettingthedaysgoby wrote:
    On_What wrote:
    God knows why he pulled out a pair of ski goggles at the end.
    It’s his “thing”. He’s sponsored by the company that makes them.

    I like Sagan. He seems to annoy cycling “purists”. This is a good thing.

    I thought he part owned the company or something?

    I like Sagan fine I just found the race rather dull.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,197
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Shirley Basso wrote:
    What's a PR purist?

    Sagan was built for it and won it in about as good a way as you could wish for.

    Well timed attack and held off the favourites who were working together. Great RVV sandbagging!

    Tongue in cheek way of saying he looks too much like a mountain biker on his bike.

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  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    I was on the Carrefour de l'Arbe. A potential cash cow that the region is not taking advantage of. The best we got was a stand handing out keyrings, caps and pens. I heard it used to be a bit wild but there are enough gendarmes there to have somewhere selling beer and food. Thousands of people all and not much of a result for the local economy.
  • onyourright
    onyourright Posts: 509
    You’re complaining that someone wasn’t making enough profit out of you? Long may that last!

    When the last corners of our lives are monetised you’ll remember these days fondly.
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    OnYourRight wrote:
    You’re complaining that someone wasn’t making enough profit out of you? Long may that last!

    When the last corners of our lives are monetised you’ll remember these days fondly.

    Would you say the same to someone complaining there wasn't a supermarket nearby? I just wanted some fries...It's not like somebody would force people to use these stands.
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    OnYourRight wrote:
    You’re complaining that someone wasn’t making enough profit out of you? Long may that last!

    When the last corners of our lives are monetised you’ll remember these days fondly.

    Would you say the same to someone complaining there wasn't a supermarket nearby? I just wanted some fries...It's not like somebody would force people to use these stands.
  • onyourright
    onyourright Posts: 509
    nickice wrote:
    Would you say the same to someone complaining there wasn't a supermarket nearby?
    I sure would … but I can tell we’re from different planets.

    Glad you didn’t starve to death, though.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    nickice wrote:
    OnYourRight wrote:
    You’re complaining that someone wasn’t making enough profit out of you? Long may that last!

    When the last corners of our lives are monetised you’ll remember these days fondly.

    Would you say the same to someone complaining there wasn't a supermarket nearby? I just wanted some fries...It's not like somebody would force people to use these stands.
    Eating and drinking are capitalist acts supporting our corporate oppressors. You are a traitor to the revolution. OnYourRight survives on just the tears of the workers.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Love the idea that a chip van is somehow gonna save Hauts-de-France.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I saw quite a bit of infrastructure towards the end of the carrefour sector on TV. Big screens, the lot.
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  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    OnYourRight wrote:
    nickice wrote:
    Would you say the same to someone complaining there wasn't a supermarket nearby?
    I sure would … but I can tell we’re from different planets.


    That's an understatement as you don't seem to live in the real world. There is nothing wrong with profit.
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    OnYourRight wrote:
    nickice wrote:
    Would you say the same to someone complaining there wasn't a supermarket nearby?
    I sure would … but I can tell we’re from different planets.


    That's an understatement as you don't seem to live in the real world. There is nothing wrong with profit.
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    There was one TV screen (and it wasn't that big), a skip, a pointless stand from the region and lots of drunk Belgians. And the café seemed to only be open to visiting dignitaries or something like that. The Oude de Kwaremont is done much better.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    nickice wrote:
    There was one TV screen (and it wasn't that big), a skip, a pointless stand from the region and lots of drunk Belgians. And the café seemed to only be open to visiting dignitaries or something like that. The Oude de Kwaremont is done much better.

    SHOCK NEWS: Belgians put on a better spectator experience!
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    The only thing that evens it up is the fact he's basically a 3 man team with Oss him and Burghardt.

    So he doesn't need to iron out the creases.

    You're forgetting my man Juraj
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,116
    OnYourRight wrote:
    Sagan couldn’t drop him when he tried on the last bit of cobbles.

    Sagan certainly took the road less traveled on the cobbles, trying to lead dillier into potholes and those yellow plastic things on the side.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    davidof wrote:
    OnYourRight wrote:
    Sagan couldn’t drop him when he tried on the last bit of cobbles.

    Sagan certainly took the road less traveled on the cobbles, trying to lead dillier into potholes and those yellow plastic things on the side.

    added meaning to riding in the gutter. Dillier did really well to hang on. he looked really on the limit leeching that wheel with all his will.
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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Jeremy wouldnt let the workers starve. The capitalist sponsors should be made to provide the chips. The workers can provide their own mayo
  • flasher
    flasher Posts: 1,734
    nickice wrote:
    I was on the Carrefour de l'Arbe. A potential cash cow that the region is not taking advantage of. The best we got was a stand handing out keyrings, caps and pens. I heard it used to be a bit wild but there are enough gendarmes there to have somewhere selling beer and food. Thousands of people all and not much of a result for the local economy.

    I was at the Velodrome for the finish of last years P-R, there was a solitary beer caravan that ran out of beer 2 hours before the race finish, and a cup cake stall!

    Never again.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Whingers
  • onyourright
    onyourright Posts: 509
    Flasher wrote:
    I was at the Velodrome for the finish of last years P-R, there was a solitary beer caravan that ran out of beer 2 hours before the race finish, and a cup cake stall!
    Stick to places like Neuilly-sur-Seine the next time you’re in France. Far more civilised and plenty of establishments happy to relieve you of €11–12 for your precious beer, thus ensuring someone makes a good, honest profit too. No-one will object if you watch Paris–Roubaix on your phone while sipping the beer.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    I was on the Kwaremont this year, you’re spot on that they have sorted it out so well

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