Will Froome ride the Giro?

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  • My life is finished.

    Good luck to him though, if he does win, its richly deserved, he may have a super strong team but he still has to ride.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    What will be interesting is the fact that he struggles most when it gets really steep, a few others much better on the bonkers climbs.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Joelsim wrote:
    What will be interesting is the fact that he struggles most when it gets really steep, a few others much better on the bonkers climbs.

    he's done well enough on cumbre del sol, angliru, muur du huy
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    He’s being accused of taking a huge start fee.

    Surely an athlete that driven and wealthy doesn’t give up a 5th tour chance for cash.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    gsk82 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    What will be interesting is the fact that he struggles most when it gets really steep, a few others much better on the bonkers climbs.

    he's done well enough on cumbre del sol, angliru, muur du huy

    There has also been a few like Peyragudes where his thin legs don't appear to have the power necessary to keep him with the leaders.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    When tour number five is up for grabs, can't see why he would do the giro first.

    This has not aged well.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    When tour number five is up for grabs, can't see why he would do the giro first.

    This has not aged well.

    To be fair I think most agreed.

    I still do.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    When tour number five is up for grabs, can't see why he would do the giro first.

    This has not aged well.

    If it's any consolation, it was pretty much the consensus a few weeks ago :D
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Joelsim wrote:
    What will be interesting is the fact that he struggles most when it gets really steep, a few others much better on the bonkers climbs.

    You mean like on the Angliru?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Oh Dear.
    This may be the defining element in Mr Froome's career. On the basis that he does not enjoy cold weather and he is less suited to extreme climbs, he is 'betting the house' on victory, anything less is defeat. A defeat that impacts on his chances of another Tour victory could be very expensive.
    It all depends on Mr Froome's view of his place in the 'history' of the sport. There is some evidence of an ignorance in times gone by. He is likely to pocket a significant reward for turning up on day one of the Giro and may be he doesn't care.
    I hope he triumphs and slays us doubters with his remarkable talent, ability and drive.
    'fool'
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,798
    CarbonClem wrote:
    He’s hinted at the Tour of Britain in 18. I expect a fifth tour win and ToB next year with the Giro in 19 - all things being equal.

    I’ll salvage some honour by suggesting the TOB is still on :D
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    iainf72 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    What will be interesting is the fact that he struggles most when it gets really steep, a few others much better on the bonkers climbs.

    You mean like on the Angliru?

    All I’m saying is it has been known to happen on a few occasions especially when someone attacks him.

    https://youtu.be/1pr7lwjgSXA

    I just have a feeling that a Landa/López combo attack could put him in trouble.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Joelsim wrote:

    I just have a feeling that a Landa/López combo attack could put him in trouble.
    Isn't Lopez doing the Tour?
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    RichN95 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:

    I just have a feeling that a Landa/López combo attack could put him in trouble.
    Isn't Lopez doing the Tour?

    Undecided. They were waiting for the Giro route launch. He was pencilled for Giro and probably one other with Fuglsang down for the Tour.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,461
    French UCI president has told them to stay out of France...
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    If he does 4 in a row, holds all 3 GTs at once and has 5 Tours he will surely be the best GT rider of all time. Certainly of the modern era - although I'm sure some Contador fans would try to argue the toss ;)
    Hinault's the best ever. 14 starts, 11 wins, two 2nds and one DNF when he crashed while leading the race
    I thought it was tendinitis. Isn't the story he upset the journos by sneaking off without letting them know.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    There seems to be a fair bit of doubt about him being able to do the Giro/Tour double, but hasn't he just shown that he can win two GTs in a year? I know there's much more pressure doing the Tour second, but on a physical level is it so different? Even more rest between the two should help too.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    inseine wrote:
    There seems to be a fair bit of doubt about him being able to do the Giro/Tour double, but hasn't he just shown that he can win two GTs in a year? I know there's much more pressure doing the Tour second, but on a physical level is it so different? Even more rest between the two should help too.

    He’s going to be coming up against a few who haven’t done the Giro, that’s the difference.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    inseine wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    If he does 4 in a row, holds all 3 GTs at once and has 5 Tours he will surely be the best GT rider of all time. Certainly of the modern era - although I'm sure some Contador fans would try to argue the toss ;)
    Hinault's the best ever. 14 starts, 11 wins, two 2nds and one DNF when he crashed while leading the race
    I thought it was tendinitis. Isn't the story he upset the journos by sneaking off without letting them know.
    Yes you are correct.
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  • Be interesting if he makes the start line - seems to get injured / ill a fair few times around end of April, which would throw a spanner in the works. I accept his training schedule will change with the Giro in mind.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,043
    Joelsim wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    There seems to be a fair bit of doubt about him being able to do the Giro/Tour double, but hasn't he just shown that he can win two GTs in a year? I know there's much more pressure doing the Tour second, but on a physical level is it so different? Even more rest between the two should help too.

    He’s going to be coming up against a few who haven’t done the Giro, that’s the difference.

    To play devils advocate, is that any different to (2017) taking part in The Vuelta and coming up against a few who haven't ridden the Tour?
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  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    Daniel B wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    There seems to be a fair bit of doubt about him being able to do the Giro/Tour double, but hasn't he just shown that he can win two GTs in a year? I know there's much more pressure doing the Tour second, but on a physical level is it so different? Even more rest between the two should help too.

    He’s going to be coming up against a few who haven’t done the Giro, that’s the difference.

    To play devils advocate, is that any different to (2017) taking part in The Vuelta and coming up against a few who haven't ridden the Tour?

    the issue is that the strongest usually reserve themselves for the tour and they will be fresh. this giro is designed for the summit finishers who will take turns in pecking away at Froome. I still think he will limit his losses and win if he stays on his bike.

    if he does a giro tour double this year, i'll be amazed...
  • Daniel B wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    There seems to be a fair bit of doubt about him being able to do the Giro/Tour double, but hasn't he just shown that he can win two GTs in a year? I know there's much more pressure doing the Tour second, but on a physical level is it so different? Even more rest between the two should help too.

    He’s going to be coming up against a few who haven’t done the Giro, that’s the difference.

    To play devils advocate, is that any different to (2017) taking part in The Vuelta and coming up against a few who haven't ridden the Tour?

    A lot later in the season though, so most will have had big chunk of racing days by the time of the Vuelta. A lot of the opposition that hadn't done the Tour (Nibali etc) had done the Giro.
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    All credit to Froomie and Sky for throwing down the gauntlet 'beat me if you can'. Every team's plans have been turned upside down

    What if they call everyone's bluff again and skip the tour and go for the Giro and Vuelta?!
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788

    'Israeli ministers are threatening to withdraw their backing'. They are backing it with millions of dollars one would suspect. It always seems a bit unseamly to chase the money at the expense of the racing, doubly so when it's politically messy.
  • salsiccia1
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    Nice restraint, ATC. Without wishing to presume overly on your views, of course.

    But my view is that it's pretty pathetic and highlights a fundamental reason not to do it. I hope RCS are looking at a contingency.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • inseine wrote:

    'Israeli ministers are threatening to withdraw their backing'. They are backing it with millions of dollars one would suspect. It always seems a bit unseamly to chase the money at the expense of the racing, doubly so when it's politically messy.


    Oh my word only people with more than a few brain cells who could have foreseen this

    Serves RCS right
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    inseine wrote:

    'Israeli ministers are threatening to withdraw their backing'. They are backing it with millions of dollars one would suspect. It always seems a bit unseamly to chase the money at the expense of the racing, doubly so when it's politically messy.


    Oh my word only people with more than a few brain cells who could have foreseen this

    Serves RCS right

    Couldn't agree more.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    inseine wrote:

    'Israeli ministers are threatening to withdraw their backing'. They are backing it with millions of dollars one would suspect. It always seems a bit unseamly to chase the money at the expense of the racing, doubly so when it's politically messy.


    Oh my word only people with more than a few brain cells who could have foreseen this

    Serves RCS right

    Serves them right for what precisely?