Giro 2017: Stage 19: S.Candido/Innichen – Piancavallo 191km *Spoilers*

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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Tom D experiencing Nibs's karma.
    Out the back and 3 teams are killing it on the front.

    Which teams?

    Not a drill?
    Movistar/Bahrain/FDJ
  • ContrelaMontre
    ContrelaMontre Posts: 3,027
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Tom D experiencing Nibs's karma.
    Out the back and 3 teams are killing it on the front.

    Which teams?

    Not a drill?
    Movistar/Bahrain/FDJ

    Nibali not got Astana working for him yet then
    Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Dumoulin has lost over a minute already
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,816
    4 teams now killing it. Froome's Vuelta type stage!
    Well over a minute and a half.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Dumoulin's also sitting well back in the group he is in, I think he might have a problem.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Sunweb are going to get some help from Orica and Lotto-NL

    Let's hope Plaza still has some of his pace from yesterday...
  • buckmulligan
    buckmulligan Posts: 1,031
    edited May 2017
    What the hell happened?!

    The time-checks on Eurosport had the gap out at 2 mins at one point, but looks to be closing... down to less than 30s now apparently. Just had some helicopter shots and the whole race is strung out single-file. They're definitely not hanging around.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    BuckMulligan wrote:
    What the hell happened?!

    The time-checks on Eurosport had the gap out at 2 mins at one point, but looks to be closing... down to less than 30s now apparently

    Yeah I think there might have been a problem with the time gap as it is now showing only 15 seconds - this would also explain why Dumoulin was looking so relaxed in the chasing group, sitting halfway back and drinking like nothing was out of place.

    Also explains why Orica/Lotto-NL have only just come to the front.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Speculation on Eurosport that he was attacked while coming back from a nature break!!

    Now him pooing I had no particular issue with but that's not really on (if true).

    Gap showing 1 minute but it looks much less - they've just taken the neutral service out as well out.
  • buckmulligan
    buckmulligan Posts: 1,031
    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, but if I was Tommy D I'd be getting every single Sunweb rider to the front of that group until the gap is closed; they're all useless when it comes to the mountains anyway, may as well get them to do some work for him on this Giro.

    Gap back out to nearly 1 min again apparently...
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    BuckMulligan wrote:
    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, but if I was Tommy D I'd be getting every single Sunweb rider to the front of that group until the gap is closed; they're all useless when it comes to the mountains anyway, may as well get them to do some work for him on this Giro.

    Gap back out to nearly 1 min again apparently...

    Time gaps look like nonsense when you see the overhead shots.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    BuckMulligan wrote:
    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, but if I was Tommy D I'd be getting every single Sunweb rider to the front of that group until the gap is closed; they're all useless when it comes to the mountains anyway, may as well get them to do some work for him on this Giro.

    Gap back out to nearly 1 min again apparently...

    Time gaps look like nonsense when you see the overhead shots.

    Get your watch out!
    _
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Nibali trying to deliver some karma back to Dumoulin, but think he forgets it goes both ways, arrogant knob that he is
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,816
    Eurosport stirring the toilet break speculation.
    Doesn't explain the other 50 odd peeing at the same time and on a climb or it's descent.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,628
    edited May 2017
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Break with nearly 6 minutes, Eurosport now live:

    Clément Chevrier (Ag2r La Mondiale), Pello Bilbao (Astana), Nicola Boem (Bardiani-CSF), Gregor Mühlberger (Bora-Hansgrohe), Pierre Rolland (Cannondale-Drapac), Maciej Paterski (CCC Sprandi Polkowice), Tobias Ludvigsson (FDJ), Evgeny Shalunov (Gazprom-Rusvelo), José Herrada (Movistar), Dries Devenyns (Quick-Step Floors), Daniel Teklehaimanot (Dimension Data), Jurgen Van den Boreck (LottoNL-Jumbo), Rui Costa (UAE Team Emirates) and Ilia Koshevoy (Wilier-Selle Italia).

    Did anyone know he was riding the Giro? You'd have expected him to have been a key support for Kruijswijk.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,816
    So, just dropped then.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    If the boys in yellow pull this back on the climb TD should buy a few lottery tickets
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Eurosport stirring the toilet break speculation.
    Doesn't explain the other 50 odd peeing at the same time and on a climb or it's descent.

    Apparently it was just speculation.

    Nibali and Movistar seem to have burnt out a lot of their guys already.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Break caught.

    Thay'll be peed off :D
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    Not much help left for team leaders in the pink group now
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    edited May 2017
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Eurosport stirring the toilet break speculation.
    Doesn't explain the other 50 odd peeing at the same time and on a climb or it's descent.

    Apparently it was just speculation.

    Nibali and Movistar seem to have burnt out a lot of their guys already.

    Well now the Sunweb DS and Italian commentary are saying Dumoulin dropped back for a natural break, Herrada stuck with him and radioed to tell Movistar to attack.

    Who knows.
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    Come on Tom !!!
    'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Bo Duke wrote:
    Come on Tom !!!
    He's got a motivated Yates, Mollema and Kruijswijk to ride with as well.

    Gap only 19s-20s.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Quintana has no teammates so Nibali appears to be in the position of strength here.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,158
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    BuckMulligan wrote:
    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, but if I was Tommy D I'd be getting every single Sunweb rider to the front of that group until the gap is closed; they're all useless when it comes to the mountains anyway, may as well get them to do some work for him on this Giro.

    Gap back out to nearly 1 min again apparently...

    Time gaps look like nonsense when you see the overhead shots.
    The time gaps are actually measured between the two TV motorbikes, so if the two groups are stretched out whether the motos are in front or behind makes a lot of difference to the time gap.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Well I missed some fun didn't I?

    But it's all coming back together.

    Ha ha ha ha!

    Suck on that Mr. Nibbles.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    edited May 2017
    They are pretty much back together now anyway. Yates pulling them back together.

    This is nuts - still 90k to go and it's already down to a select group.

    Interesting to see what happens now, if Dumoulin was attacked on a nature break it might be handbags.
  • philwint
    philwint Posts: 763
    Phew - all together
    Phil

    www.philwinterbourne.co.uk
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Rolland, Costa, Sanchez, Henao trying to set themselves up into another breakaway.
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    Just about to say. Time for another break to form

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