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Giro 2017: Stage 9 Montenero Di Bisaccia - Blockhaus *spoilers*

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  • maddog 2maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    little fella only has 28secs over peanut and Tom another 2.
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  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 4,031
    Italian police enact Brexit.
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    Very hard Brexit
  • emaddenemadden Posts: 2,431
    Need to see the full replay again when the cop, after seeing what he had done, then threw himself down in the ditch :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 15,708
    Apparently Thomas had his shoulder pop out in the crash.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 23,895
    I caught the final 6km or so and when I saw how much time G had lost I thought 'at least he can forget this GT rubbish now and get back to riding the Classics', hadn't realised he'd been taken out. I assume he pushed too hard afterwards as the time gaps were suggesting he was more than matching Quintana towards the end, probably blew once the adrenaline rush wore off.
  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 2,658
    Just seen it for the first time. He shouldn't have been there, but there's far worse hazards than that that these pros manage to avoid every day.
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  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,745
    gsk82 wrote:
    Just seen it for the first time. He shouldn't have been there, but there's far worse hazards than that that these pros manage to avoid every day.
    I don't agree with that. Hazards are flagged or signaled. This 'hazard' wasn't there 10 seconds before the accident.
  • pirniepirnie Posts: 242
    gsk82 wrote:
    Just seen it for the first time. He shouldn't have been there, but there's far worse hazards than that that these pros manage to avoid every day.

    Ditto, now I've seen it I take back what I said before about neutralisation

    Nowhere near as dangerous from the moto as the commentary made it out to be
  • doug5_10doug5_10 Posts: 465
    Entertaining post-stage so far, Movistar almost lose a car over the edge of a cliff and Dumoulin drops the s- bomb. Kelderman out.
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  • above_the_cowsabove_the_cows Posts: 10,941
    doug5_10 wrote:
    Dumoulin drops the s- bomb.

    Sky?
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  • above_the_cowsabove_the_cows Posts: 10,941
    ...
    Correlation is not causation.
  • doug5_10doug5_10 Posts: 465
    doug5_10 wrote:
    Dumoulin drops the s- bomb.

    Sky?
    Nah, the watershed version. Seem to remember he has form in a giving a good sweary interview
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  • ShadowriderShadowrider Posts: 483
    And like that the Giro is over for me. Can't stand Movistar.

    Another moto another accident.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 15,708
    edited May 2017
    pirnie wrote:
    gsk82 wrote:
    Just seen it for the first time. He shouldn't have been there, but there's far worse hazards than that that these pros manage to avoid every day.

    Ditto, now I've seen it I take back what I said before about neutralisation

    Nowhere near as dangerous from the moto as the commentary made it out to be

    Well, I think most on here and the entire peloton would completely disagree with you.

    Moto stops, even slightly in front of a tightly packed bunch racing full on for the climb and it's going to happen every time.

    Not only did he wipe out Sky and Adam Yates, Tom Dumoulin lost his only proper mountain domestique in Wilko K.
    He was well peed off to say the least.
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  • markwb79markwb79 Posts: 929
    doug5_10 wrote:
    doug5_10 wrote:
    Dumoulin drops the s- bomb.

    Sky?
    Nah, the watershed version. Seem to remember he has form in a giving a good sweary interview

    Pretty much part of the English vocab test in Dutch schools. (not the word Sky btw)
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  • RoadPainterRoadPainter Posts: 375
    And like that the Giro is over for me. Can't stand Movistar.

    Another moto another accident.
    I feel the same, but am out there for the final week :-s

    Hopefully my mood will change during next week.
  • ShadowriderShadowrider Posts: 483
    Quintana pulls another run of form out of his censored .
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,474
    What's the verdict then?
    - Is it not as bad an outside interference as first thought?
    - Should Movistar have waited, or at least knocked it off a bit?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • RoadPainterRoadPainter Posts: 375
    salsiccia1 wrote:
    What's the verdict then?
    - Is it not as bad an outside interference as first thought?
    - Should Movistar have waited, or at least knocked it off a bit?
    I think they should have held off until it was back together. But it was getting close to the climb so not guaranteed that should/would happen. I would never expect Movistar to do so.

    I wonder what would've happened if Nibali was amongst those taken down?
  • milton50milton50 Posts: 3,892
    You can't blame Movistar. They'd been pushing it on for ages before the crash, it was right at the start of the climb, they were always going to carry on.
  • milton50milton50 Posts: 3,892
    So we what do we think is doable for Dumoulin across the two time trials? 2 minutes on Quintana?
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,947
    salsiccia1 wrote:
    What's the verdict then?
    - Is it not as bad an outside interference as first thought?
    - Should Movistar have waited, or at least knocked it off a bit?
    - No, the peloton uses every bit of the road. If it was a spectator taking a selfie we would have crucified them.

    - No problem with Movistar, they didn't change their behaviour. They kept riding the same way as they already were.
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 15,708
    Rai now taking pot shots at Sky for not bringing Viviani to their 100th Giro.
    Classy.
    Imagine if the cop had ko'd Nibali's chances.
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  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 4,031
    It's 5h1t but neutralisation or not racing would be awful. I never understand calls for this once race is on.
    We've waited a week for a race, pink jersey, nibbles & others were still there.
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,474
    RichN95 wrote:
    salsiccia1 wrote:
    What's the verdict then?
    - Is it not as bad an outside interference as first thought?
    - Should Movistar have waited, or at least knocked it off a bit?
    - No, the peloton uses every bit of the road. If it was a spectator taking a selfie we would have crucified them.

    - No problem with Movistar, they didn't change their behaviour. They kept riding the same way as they already were.

    Cheers
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • yourpaceormineyourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
    Landa lost 26'56".

    When the Movistar DS was asked if they took advantage of the incident he certainly had a wry smile on his face whilst all the time saying that no they didn't, they were just riding the tempo they had just started setting. Cue divine intervention as the team car starts rolling backwards...
  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 4,031
    It wouldn't be fair on Quintana if he lost the opportunity to gain time on a stage suited to him. Lots of riders will gain over him on the tt, so he misses the chance to win.
  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,745
    milton50 wrote:
    So we what do we think is doable for Dumoulin across the two time trials? 2 minutes on Quintana?
    Well if there were just the TTs to go Dumoulin would have it in the bag but there's lots more climbing to come. He looks goid though
  • Movistar had been pressing on all day. It wasn't like they suddenly took advantage and sped off, they just kept going which seems fair enough to me.
  • dabberdabber Posts: 1,620
    Rai now taking pot shots at Sky for not bringing Viviani to their 100th Giro.
    Classy.
    Imagine if the cop had ko'd Nibali's chances.

    Time for Sky to pull out those needed for Tour duty.
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