E-Bikes, what do we think?

cooldad

To be fair, he is a bit of a c0ck. An old stringy one.

The Rookie

But we all know you just HATE the fact I'm younger than you and always will be old chap!

hsiaolc

All this discussion for nothing.

Again I stand corrected. It is here to stay whether you like it or not.

I myself intend to buy one in 3-4 years time. I have been waiting for the tech to come around for many years already. Just a matter of time.

So far all the Road and MTB bikes have massive battery and hence make it heavy. I am quite fit but I also don't mind a bit assist when I don't feel like pedaling too hard and want to enjoy more of the down than the up. If I enjoy up then I might as well ride my road bike up some mountain.

I want small battery, very light weight and just give me a very slight power for a small amount of time. Hopefully those will come soon thats affordable.

Crazyjenkins01

To be perfectly honest, I think the comments on the 'lazy' people getting ebikes instead is probably wrong* as if they are lazy, riding a bike of any type will not interest them.
There is a place for them (regarding trail use), old(er) people, disabled people, injury rehabilitation perhaps.
I rode one and enjoyed it. That being said, I wont be buying one.


* Disclaimer: I could well be wrong myself!

Angus Young

Crazyjenkins01 wrote:

To be perfectly honest, I think the comments on the 'lazy' people getting ebikes instead is probably wrong* as if they are lazy, riding a bike of any type will not interest them.
There is a place for them (regarding trail use), old(er) people, disabled people, injury rehabilitation perhaps.
I rode one and enjoyed it. That being said, I wont be buying one.


* Disclaimer: I could well be wrong myself!

There's a spectrum of lazy.

hsiaolc

Some of you talk about motorized vehicle destroys land?

Mountain Biking Park Wales they do these lefts with huge trucks with massive torque to bring people and bikes up the mountain and so those are ok but not electric bikes? Not sure the logic of argument there.

Those lift services are so damn expensive and yet it is fully booked so it proofs but people just want to come down.

If there is a way to get me that mountain faster and quicker I will do it for less money and I am sure all those that goes to Mountain bike park wales will want the same. People que for an hour just go get the lift.

Without lift I can probably do maximum 2 runs down but with lift I can do 5 in a day. I sure don't want to waste energy riding up when I just want to come down that park. It is great fun.

I was at swinely forest last week and saw a Habib electric mountain bike. I must say though I was being a snob and thought loser for riding a electric bike.

I was torn. Not sure why I feel that when I am not against electric bikes but I didn't like to see them on the trail but at the same time I would like to buy one myself in the future. Funny.

cooldad

Do the trucks drive up the trails?

Angus Young

hsiaolc wrote:

If there is a way to get me that mountain faster and quicker I will do it for less money and I am sure all those that goes to Mountain bike park wales will want the same. People que for an hour just go get the lift.

I've never waited for an hour for an uplift at BPW. Rarely have I had to wait 15 minutes (thought it can often seem like and hour).

hsiaolc

Angus Young wrote:

hsiaolc wrote:

If there is a way to get me that mountain faster and quicker I will do it for less money and I am sure all those that goes to Mountain bike park wales will want the same. People que for an hour just go get the lift.

I've never waited for an hour for an uplift at BPW. Rarely have I had to wait 15 minutes (thought it can often seem like and hour).

Thats because you had the pass?

Those without pass have to wait till the ones with pass have gone first at BPW.

hsiaolc

cooldad wrote:

Do the trucks drive up the trails?

Nope. At fire roads. With MTB coming down you don't have problem with torque anyway you hardly pedal.

Angus Young

hsiaolc wrote:

Angus Young wrote:

hsiaolc wrote:

If there is a way to get me that mountain faster and quicker I will do it for less money and I am sure all those that goes to Mountain bike park wales will want the same. People que for an hour just go get the lift.

I've never waited for an hour for an uplift at BPW. Rarely have I had to wait 15 minutes (thought it can often seem like and hour).

Thats because you had the pass?

Those without pass have to wait till the ones with pass have gone first at BPW.

The fifteen minute waits were when I didn't have a pass.

cooldad

hsiaolc wrote:

cooldad wrote:

Do the trucks drive up the trails?

Nope. At fire roads. With MTB coming down you don't have problem with torque anyway you hardly pedal.

I think you miss my general point. Apart from trail centres with uplifts, most of us ride up things.

hsiaolc wrote:

Mountain Biking Park Wales they do these lefts with huge trucks with massive torque to bring people and bikes up the mountain and so those are ok but not electric bikes? Not sure the logic of argument there.

rockmonkeysc

Even without a pass, on a busy, sunny Sunday I've never waited more than 15 minutes for a lift at Bike Park Wales.

hsiaolc

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Even without a pass, on a busy, sunny Sunday I've never waited more than 15 minutes for a lift at Bike Park Wales.

I must have gone during school holiday. I wished that were the case where I didn't have to wait for that long. Anyway. E bike for me hopefully in 3-4 years time or a bit longer.

Hinaultscrapcousin

The Rookie wrote:

Welcome to the internet!

Pretty much every thread I've read in this forum that involves some sort of discussion seems to end up this way.

cooldad

That's because everyone is a c0ck.

Except me of course.

rockmonkeysc

cooldad wrote:

That's because everyone is a c0ck.

Except me of course. I'm a complete c**t

Fixed for you.

dhmpap

Heya,

I know you all are mountain/road bike gurus here so I I was wondering whether I could pick your brain about an ebike I intend to buy.

I am currently living in Spain and had a look online. Apart from the skyrocket prices, I found these http://www.biboobikes.com/bicicletas-el ... s/montana/ but cannot justify the price

I am not an expert but the for the stated price the quality must be perfect - or not?

Thank you in advance
Greetings from sunny Spain.

cooldad

dhmpap wrote:

Heya,

I know you all are mountain/road bike gurus here so I I was wondering whether I could pick your brain about an ebike I intend to buy.

I am currently living in Spain and had a look online. Apart from the skyrocket prices, I found these http://www.biboobikes.com/bicicletas-el ... s/montana/ but cannot justify the price

I am not an expert but the for the stated price the quality must be perfect - or not?

Thank you in advance
Greetings from sunny Spain.

Mmmmmmmm. Spam. Nonnomnomnom.

Angus Young

cooldad wrote:

Mmmmmmmm. Spam. Nonnomnomnom.

Yes, but it's Spanish Spam and that's the tastiest kind.

cooldad

Spicy.

dhmpap

Angus & cooldad, if you consider it spam you can go ahead and delete it Thanks for the prompt answer though.

cooldad

Only god and joshjevans can delete posts. Rumour has it they are the same person. I'm more on the level of satan.


I did try and look but the annoying pop up every 2 seconds annoyed me so much I managed to last 4 seconds.

Angus Young

Just to add fuel to the fire...

http://www.mbr.co.uk/videos/news/is-e-mtb-lazy

cooldad

He was ginger though. They need all the help they can get.

dhmpap

Angus Young wrote:

Just to add fuel to the fire...

http://www.mbr.co.uk/videos/news/is-e-mtb-lazy

Thanks Angus

LimitedGarry

Angus Young wrote:

Just to add fuel to the fire...

http://www.mbr.co.uk/videos/news/is-e-mtb-lazy

Really interesting. Thanks for the post.

Ross Gardner

My opinion is that only the trails need changing: trails are currently made with normal MTBs in mind. Making trails designed for both would be favouring one over the other, so I think cannot be really done.

With the E-bike, it also means there are more things to go wrong, so more things to learn how to fix. I don't know the construction, but perhaps it could lead to more carrying around their bikes on trails.

More weight, more design needed for weight distribution (which has probably been managed and catered for already) would be the practical hurdle.

Maybe Downhill E-bikers could finally mean their bikes are cycled uphill!

If someone is able to prove that I exercise the right muscles in the right way on an E-bike, then I don't have an issue with it (and I think this has already been proven).

Personally, the trails the way they are now, I would stick to normal MTBs.

LimitedGarry

Ross Gardner wrote:

My opinion is that only the trails need changing: trails are currently made with normal MTBs in mind.

E-bikes are not faster than the fastest of riders, except in climbs. They really don't need their own trails.
The controversy of e-bikes on man built/maintained trails is when someone comes with a jailbreak for these bikes and allows them to surpass their programmed speed limit. At that point, the e-bike is essentially a moped (at least as far as speed and power goes) and has absolutely no place on the trails.

Angus Young

LimitedGarry wrote:

E-bikes are not faster than the fastest of riders...

Most of us are not the "fastest of riders".