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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    blazing_saddles said:

    MattFalle said:

    That's all fine and mighty but you ever tried getting an MOT on a T72?

    Especially just before the summer when everyone else is trying?

    On the plus side they can easily and quickly be turned
    DeVlaeminck said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    I see that a Russian businessman has taken out what amounts to a million dollar contract hit on dear Vlad.

    Only a million? That's a bit tight.
    What are you putting up?
    As much as you I guess, might be a bit risky. If it was an order of magnitude or so higher then I reckon there'd be some serious interest.
    Everyone's generous with someone else's money :)
    Good payback though - for example if you were a major shareholder in say Sberbank just now, you could go a lot higher than $1m and potentially get a great return.
    I don't think it's a bounty of any size that's going to tip someone over from not killing Putin to killing him.

    They will have to be a long distance marksman.
    Otherwise how are they hit him at the other end of that table?

    Not a big target either is he.
    he does have a stupid fat head tbh

    #hugeswede
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Can't fathom why MadVlad has gone this way. For years his trollbots hackers and disinformation campaigns have sowed discord in the West, e.g. Brexsh!t and Trump as high points. He had his oligarchy pals bribing, funding, compromising gullible politicos, Spaffer for example, 'Lord' Hampton and Siberia for example. He had Poland and Hungary moving away from EU integration.

    Now. Pretty unanimous Fxxx You across all parts of Europe, inc Orban and the like.

    MadVlad has lost the plot.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    orraloon said:

    Can't fathom why MadVlad has gone this way. For years his trollbots hackers and disinformation campaigns have sowed discord in the West, e.g. Brexsh!t and Trump as high points. He had his oligarchy pals bribing, funding, compromising gullible politicos, Spaffer for example, 'Lord' Hampton and Siberia for example. He had Poland and Hungary moving away from EU integration.

    Thing is that he couldn't directly claim the credit for the above.
    Ukraine is going to be his legacy. One way or the other.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    How’s the Russian economy I hear you ask?

    Here’s a Russian equity strategist on Russia’s equivalent of CNBC drinking a toast to the death of their stock market

    _
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    I doubt Vlad will be accepting aftershave for his birthday. Especially Salisbury for Men.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    rick_chasey said:

    Flashed up on BBerg - Moscow has drawn up plans to discourage Ukrainians from fighting back when they fall under Russian control.

    Strategy includes crackdowns on protests, detention of opponents, and potentially carrying out public executions.

    Christ.


    The War Crimes investigation folks will be very busy if that comes into effect. Awful to just think about it.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    So the **rumour** is martial law, no men under 50 allowed to leave, and massive conscription in Russia from tomorrow
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661


    !!!!
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rick_chasey said:

    So the **rumour** is martial law, no men under 50 allowed to leave, and massive conscription in Russia from tomorrow

    evidence?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    And finally in “sensible chat on Abramovic and Chelsea”

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLDkcuAx/
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    rick_chasey said:



    !!!!

    That’ll sting.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited March 2022
    rick_chasey said:

    So the **rumour** is martial law, no men under 50 allowed to leave, and massive conscription in Russia from tomorrow

    evidence?
    rick_chasey said:

    So the **rumour** is martial law, no men under 50 allowed to leave, and massive conscription in Russia from tomorrow

    tbh, they can do that - to a massive extent its more hassle than its worth.

    once you've sorted the biffers, malingerers, incompetents, pacifists, political opposers, criminals, people who you don't trust with anything more than a ladle you still have to equip, train, feed, house, transport, pay them and then somehow fill their gaps in a now failing economy.

    and we all know the Russians don't have all the food, kit and fuel in the world.

    Plus this schiz takes time.

    and once those who don't want to be in the army are forced in they're more trouble than they are worth which is why we laugh in faces of those who say they should bring back National Service.

    Then, once they are in, you have to rely on them to actually go and fight as opposed to just surrendering/changing sides and giving up valuable kit to your enemy.

    Yeah, its a worrying change on the military footing but this isn't 1939.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rick_chasey said:

    So the **rumour** is martial law, no men under 50 allowed to leave, and massive conscription in Russia from tomorrow

    and martial law isn't going to go down well with the population - or any of that tbh, after all wasn't the special military op meant to be all going well?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    So the **rumour** is martial law, no men under 50 allowed to leave, and massive conscription in Russia from tomorrow

    evidence?
    Guardian journo




    Local spreading said rumour



    And apparently planes rammed as people are desperate to get out
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Agree on what MF said earlier about conscripts. They take an army backwards, not forwards, especially in a war scenario where the conscripts are being asked to fight for something that isn’t close to their hearts.

    And if this is happening after just a week, it seems very likely that a feeling of panic is sweeping through the Kremlin. A week for a multi city offensive really isn’t a long time.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited March 2022
    Ukranian recruitment video - strong stuff.

    https://fb.watch/bw6aKssLus/
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
    he may have designs but it ain't gonnaa happen with an army of untrained conscripts with no kit, a shitreputation, no morale and a crushed economy with no money to pay for anything.

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
    he may have designs but it ain't gonnaa happen with an army of untrained conscripts with no kit, a shitreputation, no morale and a crushed economy with no money to pay for anything.

    Boosts your combat ratio
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    TheBigBean said:

    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
    he may have designs but it ain't gonnaa happen with an army of untrained conscripts with no kit, a shitreputation, no morale and a crushed economy with no money to pay for anything.

    Boosts your combat ratio
    Reluctant conscripts vs Ukrainian civilians.
    Who’s your money on?
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    TheBigBean said:

    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
    he may have designs but it ain't gonnaa happen with an army of untrained conscripts with no kit, a shitreputation, no morale and a crushed economy with no money to pay for anything.

    Boosts your combat ratio

    It does, but those ratios are based on trained troops. This is fast becoming an urban war scenario which isn’t where relatively untrained conscripted troops will add much value. They’ll just get in the way of those troops that know what they’re doing and quite frankly the casualty rate will soar. And once those conscripts start going home in body bags in their droves, sentiment back in Russia will plummet.
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    rick_chasey said:

    So the **rumour** is martial law, no men under 50 allowed to leave, and massive conscription in Russia from tomorrow

    Nothing says motivated more than someone who is coerced into a task they have no interest in and is pretty grim. Some might even have morals and consider killing their fellow Slav as a bit much.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    blazing_saddles said:

    TheBigBean said:

    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
    he may have designs but it ain't gonnaa happen with an army of untrained conscripts with no kit, a shitreputation, no morale and a crushed economy with no money to pay for anything.

    Boosts your combat ratio
    Reluctant conscripts vs Ukrainian civilians.
    Who’s your money on?
    Money is on no fight.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    TheBigBean said:

    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
    he may have designs but it ain't gonnaa happen with an army of untrained conscripts with no kit, a shitreputation, no morale and a crushed economy with no money to pay for anything.

    Boosts your combat ratio
    not if they aren't combat troops or, as below, not any use.

    poor guys will just be cannon fodder.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    kingstonian said:

    TheBigBean said:

    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
    he may have designs but it ain't gonnaa happen with an army of untrained conscripts with no kit, a shitreputation, no morale and a crushed economy with no money to pay for anything.

    Boosts your combat ratio

    It does, but those ratios are based on trained troops. This is fast becoming an urban war scenario which isn’t where relatively untrained conscripted troops will add much value. They’ll just get in the way of those troops that know what they’re doing and quite frankly the casualty rate will soar. And once those conscripts start going home in body bags in their droves, sentiment back in Russia will plummet.
    this. bang on on all points.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    MattFalle said:

    TheBigBean said:

    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, if they're doing all that after just one week its smacks of desperation...

    So my theory:

    So the economic sanctions are baked in until Putin is out. And they are brutal.

    So he has to win the war at the very least else he is certainly toast. So if it looks like it’s getting bogged down in stalemate, which it looks like it could, or at least get protected, he’ll want to commit more to win it.

    If he has designs on the world beyond Ukraine - former Yugoslavia - then plainly the army needs more to be bigger.
    he may have designs but it ain't gonnaa happen with an army of untrained conscripts with no kit, a shitreputation, no morale and a crushed economy with no money to pay for anything.

    Boosts your combat ratio
    not if they aren't combat troops or, as below, not any use.

    poor guys will just be cannon fodder.
    I wasn't being serious. I do think when considering the number of troops availability their motivation is a factor that needs to be thrown into the mix.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Yes, motivation is a big factor. We’ve already heard reports that Russian soldiers have been dismayed that the population they had been told they were liberating actually don’t want them there. That will be super corrosive.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    edited March 2022
    I did wonder earlier if this 40 mile convoy of crap kit and seemingly barely trained troops from the north had been a bit of a feint while the proper troops moved in on the real strategic targets in the south. However, I suspect the reality is that there aren't really any tactics because Putin is pulling the strings and is just batshit.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Ooh, a nice bit of conspiracy...

    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois

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