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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,239
    thegreatdivide said:

    Another day, another massive pile of destroyed or abandoned vehicles. The Oryx guys that keep a tally of losses confirmed (so far) that ley lost at least 102 vehicles in 24hrs, including 24 tanks. To put that into perspective, that's pretty much 50% of the tanks in service in the Austrian army.

    Oryx added that to their ongoing tally - Russia is now visually confirmed to have lost 5800 vehicles, aircraft, helicopters and ships. Of that, they have lost 1073 tanks (at least 334 of them are now in use with the UF!). God knows how many men they have lost in this pointless invasion.

    Here are some new pictures of yet another road filled with abandoned or destroyed vehicles in retreat. It's astonishing:


    Obviously changing the Russian commanders will turn the thing around...

    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,460
    What happened to the days when you destroyed any kit you got forced to leave behind? Even in the Napoleonic wars they would spike canon then double shot them to destroy the barrels.
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    Pross said:

    What happened to the days when you destroyed any kit you got forced to leave behind? Even in the Napoleonic wars they would spike canon then double shot them to destroy the barrels.

    The Russian army is now made up of conscripts and hired guns. They don't care about equipment. They just want paid, then they run away. The professional army is either dead/wounded or being kept back so they at least have something left to poke at NATO when this is all over.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    @thegreatdivide ever play HOI?
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    The Warhammer RPG? Nah. My gaming days are long behind me.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited September 2022
    lol no not that. Bit offended you think I play that haha.

    I only ask as the UKAF move and general tactics is textbook out of that. (life imitating art, clearly....)
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,287
    Ukrainians now taking the wee wee out of the Russians on Twitter saying that Russia is now the biggest contributor of military equipment to the UAF :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,239
    I hadn't realised that life imitated art so closely in that Zelensky played a teacher in a TV programme who 'accidentally' become PM of Ukraine...

    Maybe this has been posted before, but it's extraordinary...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9smD823aE0
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,266
    Tbf, we did elect a comedian from a topical news show as Prime Minister.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Yikes:

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  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,108
    briantrumpet said:

    I hadn't realised that life imitated art so closely in that Zelensky played a teacher in a TV programme who 'accidentally' become PM of Ukraine...

    You’ll be telling us next you didn’t know he was the voice of Paddington Bear.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    secretsqirrel said:

    briantrumpet said:

    I hadn't realised that life imitated art so closely in that Zelensky played a teacher in a TV programme who 'accidentally' become PM of Ukraine...

    You’ll be telling us next you didn’t know he was the voice of Paddington Bear.
    I googled this to check it was a joke...

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    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,266
    ddraver said:

    secretsqirrel said:

    briantrumpet said:

    I hadn't realised that life imitated art so closely in that Zelensky played a teacher in a TV programme who 'accidentally' become PM of Ukraine...

    You’ll be telling us next you didn’t know he was the voice of Paddington Bear.
    I googled this to check it was a joke...

    🤯🤯🤯
    All these "revelations" came out 6 months ago, and were commented on in here. 🤔
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,239
    It's definitely getting interesting... looks like they are pushing back across wide margins now in the south too.

    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    The current thinking is that the largest of those circles is an attempt to head SE towards Nova Kakhovka and cut the area in half. Ivan cant cross that wide body of water north of it, and all the bridges in the south (Antonivsky etc) have all been blown to sh*t by Hymars rockets, and the pontoon bridges they keep trying to put together get pumped daily too.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,460
    thegreatdivide said:

    The current thinking is that the largest of those circles is an attempt to head SE towards Nova Kakhovka and cut the area in half. Ivan cant cross that wide body of water north of it, and all the bridges in the south (Antonivsky etc) have all been blown to sh*t by Hymars rockets, and the pontoon bridges they keep trying to put together get pumped daily too.

    So are they then giving up on any attempt to move into the land east of the Dnipro as the lack of bridges would presumably be an issue for them too? Or do they then push down from the north?
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    I'm no military expert etc etc, but I can't see the Russians having enough resources to cover the far side of the Dnipro now. Not at the moment anyway. I guess if the UF can take the current side they might have more chance of establishing a crossing of their own.

    It's all going so fast!
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,102
    Times Radio (on YouTube!?!) Has been interviewing some interesting posh military types for the last few days. Real worries about UFs being too stretched if they move too fast. Also growing worries about nature of desperation tactics from Putin, and/or a power vacuum.

    All quite unsettling, underneath the superficially good news.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,541
    Well Putin has a perfect opportunity on Monday to take out a significant number of world leaders.......
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    thegreatdivide said:

    I'm no military expert etc etc, but I can't see the Russians having enough resources to cover the far side of the Dnipro now. Not at the moment anyway. I guess if the UF can take the current side they might have more chance of establishing a crossing of their own.

    It's all going so fast!

    just pontificating but holding their side of the river should be relatively easy and if Russia moves troops north it would make it easier for UF to threaten Mariupol which could cause a massive Russian withdrawal to avoid being cut off. Strategically that would give them most of their coast back and threaten Crimea.

    Politically crossing the Dnipro would avoid the obvious start and end point of a negotiated settlement.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    surrey_commuter said:

    thegreatdivide said:

    I'm no military expert etc etc, but I can't see the Russians having enough resources to cover the far side of the Dnipro now. Not at the moment anyway. I guess if the UF can take the current side they might have more chance of establishing a crossing of their own.

    It's all going so fast!

    just pontificating but holding their side of the river should be relatively easy and if Russia moves troops north it would make it easier for UF to threaten Mariupol which could cause a massive Russian withdrawal to avoid being cut off. Strategically that would give them most of their coast back and threaten Crimea.

    Politically crossing the Dnipro would avoid the obvious start and end point of a negotiated settlement.
    As I understand it, the Kherson attack has fixed the troops there, hence the inability to reinforce the north.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Another Putin exec dies after falling, this time off a high speed boat... 😳

    https://www.newsweek.com/putins-key-man-artic-found-dead-after-falling-overboard-1742218
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    That’s the atrocities in the various liberated villages, towns and cities starting to filter through. It’s going to be horrendous.

    Utter scum.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,475
    This is how Wagner is filling its ranks.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,460
    Zelensky involved in a car crash in Kyiv. Doesn’t sound like he was badly injured but you would think he’d be better protected whilst travelling.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    He needs ammo, not a ride 😉
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  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,322
    putin grovelling to xi, hilarious
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,287
    You can see how close they are...

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,460
    I think Xi sees which way the wind is blowing and decided to back pedal from being overly supportive of Putin but presumably he’ll keep close enough to keep the cheap gas flowing.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited September 2022
    Interesting that both the Armenia / Azerbaijan and Tajikistan /Kyrgyzstan tensions are flaring up again with firing on each side in both.

    Clearly they're sensing a power vacuum left by Russia.
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