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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619
    I like that 2nd pic.
    Stevo loves that first pic.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,593
    Nice lighting on the second shot.
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  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    pinno said:


    Stevo loves that first pic.

    There's plenty of that sort of material here.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,930
    A phone snap from the ride home from work today:


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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,930
    On technical matters, and my interest in proper HDR (blended multiple exposures), here's the same shot in four different guises:
    1. Single exposure
    2. Single exposure with Irfanview's auto adjust
    3. Sony camera onboard HDR
    4. Sony camera onboard HDR with Irfanview's auto adjust









    In this instance, one might go for 1. for the artistic impression, but the others are interesting in showing levels of detail and depth of colour in the shadow, in tricky lighting conditions.

    As I'm such a lazy photographer, I like having a range of easy auto options to choose from.

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,593
    I'd pick #2. From what I can see here #1 lacks detail in the shadows. #3 & #4 are just flat.
    Personal opinion, art is in the eye of the beholder, etc...
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  • briantrumpet
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    pblakeney said:

    I'd pick #2. From what I can see here #1 lacks detail in the shadows. #3 & #4 are just flat.
    Personal opinion, art is in the eye of the beholder, etc...

    I'd probably not disagree, but 3 leaves the most options for tweaking one way or the other, as it's got all the details. 4 is indeed very flat. Often I find the trouble is trying to remember just what it looked like (or how I perceived what it looked like) when I'm back at home. As mentioned upthread, it does remind me how awesome our eyes and brain processing is, though I guess that for evolutionary reasons, as we need to see threats in shadows in bright sunlight. (Well, maybe not so much in English weather.)

    I'm annoyed, because I was going to do this comparison with photos I took inside St Sulpice, which clearly demonstrated how useful HDR is in contrasty interiors, but I'd already deleted the non-HDR files from the SD card. But anyway, the HDR versions were good.


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  • pblakeney
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    briantrumpet said:

    ...Often I find the trouble is trying to remember just what it looked like (or how I perceived what it looked like) when I'm back at home...

    I have conflicting opinions on this which changes with my mood. What is better?
    A true representation, or a new artistic take?
    If it is the latter then I think it is best done without a fresh memory. IMO only of course.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,593
    ^^^^ Excellent! ^^^^
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  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    Cheers PB. I like the purple on black, but don't know what flower it is.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    masjer said:

    Flower in my garden.
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    Talk us through this one, please. Exposure, post-processing. It’s great!
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  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    edited April 2022
    Ben6899 said:

    masjer said:

    Flower in my garden.
    Talk us through this one, please. Exposure, post-processing. It’s great!

    :)
    This is how I did it......
    Choose a day when bright sunlight hits the object (flower) and there's a dark(ish) shady background. Light coming from behind won't work as it lights up the background too much.
    On the camera, set it to spot metering, with a fast shutter speed (flower was 1/1000).
    Focus on the brightest part of the flower. On some cameras, the spot metering might be fixed in the centre. If conditions are right, the background will be black. If not, you could use a dark non-reflective material.
    Here's one I tried where I couldn't get the background quite black enough.


    Top tip. Remember to turn your camera off spot metering, or you'll be wondering why all your other shots aren't working out. Yes, this was me- doh.
  • Munsford0
    Munsford0 Posts: 680
    Gazania?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,930
    Ha, I knew I'd done one similar, last summer... I was in mountain woodland, and a shaft of light lit up this flower. Definitely a time not to use HDR.


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  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    Two other things I forgot to mention, keep ISO low and increase the blacks setting post processing if you want it jet black.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    I took that with a Canon compact. I had to blacken the blacks, but it did almost all the work. I'm lazy too.
  • Wheelspinner
    Wheelspinner Posts: 6,720
    I’m not very good with identification of flowers. What’s that? Not seen one with that petal colouring here ever.
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  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    Wheelspinner said:

    I’m not very good with identification of flowers. What’s that? Not seen one with that petal colouring here ever.

    I think it's a small-flowered geranium (cranesbill). The flower is only about 1cm across.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    @masjer how many stops are you shooting these flowers at? Like I said before, they're great!
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  • Charlie_Croker
    Charlie_Croker Posts: 1,727
    masjer said:


    IMG_0372




    Now that is nice masjer, well done

    hand-held or tripod I wonder?
  • Charlie_Croker
    Charlie_Croker Posts: 1,727
    edited April 2022
    Bloomin' forum BB, it previews just fine, PAH!
    I missed the quote frame! :D




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  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    edited April 2022
    Ben6899 said:

    @masjer how many stops are you shooting these flowers at? Like I said before, they're great!

    Cheers!
    On the first pic f5.6 - 1/1000 -ISO 200 (sunny morning)
    Second (on auto) f5.0- 1/500- ISO 100 (sunny evening)

    Lighting is key -contrast. The brighter the object and the darker(shade) the background, the easier it is. If the area isn't shady enough, just put something dark behind the subject (matt black obv best). On another pic, I just covered some background plants with a dark blue fleece jacket, and it came out black.
    That second pic had a tweak post processing as you could still just about make out plants in the background (like Brian's) -not that that makes it better or worse.

    Don't forget spot metering too.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Nice one, thanks. Gonna have a mess about at lunchtime!
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  • Ben6899
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    Charlie_Croker said:

    masjer said:


    IMG_0372




    Now that is nice masjer, well done

    hand-held or tripod I wonder?

    I'm guessing handheld for 1/1000 and probably even for 1/500?
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  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    edited April 2022
    Charlie_Croker said:


    Now that is nice masjer, well done

    hand-held or tripod I wonder?

    Thanks CC. Nice framing!
    Just hand held with a cheepo (but clever) compact on auto, but don't tell anyone. :)
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,803
    Did some googling. This explains different methods:https://shotkit.com/black-background/
    This photo demonstrates it well outside.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,930
    A flower, but a different sort of background: a mirror-flat Exeter Ship Canal this morning:


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