TdF 2016 Stage 13 *Contains spoilers*

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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Yates 7s ahead of Quintana

    Froome wasn't far from catching him
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Not too bad from Yates either.

    Chapeau Tom, that was storming ride.

    I said a Dutchy would win.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • norvernrob
    norvernrob Posts: 1,448
    edited July 2016
    Froome 2'05 up on Quintana today, 1'58 on Yates.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    TheBigBean wrote:
    When am I allowed to declare this year's tour a bit dull?

    You can declare what you like but I don't think that many people would agree!

    There's always a load of jaded individuals on here rushing to declare the tour a bit dull though.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    2nd place for Froome, 2 mins on Quintana!
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Tom Dumoulin looks like a superhero in that TT get up.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    I couldn't help thinking that it was a shame they didn't wait until after this stage to decide what to do about yesterday.

    I mean, we already knew it was all over when Quintana couldn't attack, but for Froome to now be 3 minutes clear it's TDF over as far as GC goes.... at least it'd only have been a minute lead into the alps.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,537
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    When am I allowed to declare this year's tour a bit dull?

    You can declare what you like but I don't think that many people would agree!

    There's always a load of jaded individuals on here rushing to declare the tour a bit dull though.

    That's very fair and true, hence I'm holding off for now until the appropriate time, but I do think that time is coming..

    I'd never declare a GT dull in first week - that would be silly.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    adr82 wrote:
    Froome getting booed again it sounds like?

    I'm not sure, it could just be people calling out 'Froome'

    Another great ride, but Dumoulin was a monster today.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Tom Dumoulin looks like a superhero in that TT get up.

    Biggest eyebrows in peloton, surely?
  • d_o_g
    d_o_g Posts: 286
    1. GBRFROOME Christopher 1 TEAM SKY 58h 02' 51''
    2.(+2) NEDMOLLEMA Bauke 61 TREK - SEGAFREDO 58h 04' 38'' + 01' 47''
    3.(-1) GBRYATES Adam 209 ORICA-BIKEEXCHANGE 58h 05' 36'' + 02' 45''
    4.(-1) COLQUINTANA Nairo 11 MOVISTAR TEAM 58h 05' 50'' + 02' 59''
    5.(+1) ESPVALVERDE Alejandro 12 MOVISTAR TEAM 58h 06' 08'' + 03' 17''
    6.(+1) USAVAN GARDEREN Tejay 99 BMC RACING TEAM 58h 06' 10'' + 03' 19''
    7.(-2) FRABARDET Romain 41 AG2R LA MONDIALE 58h 06' 55'' + 04' 04''
    8.(+3) AUSPORTE Richie 91 BMC RACING TEAM 58h 07' 18'' + 04' 27''
    9. IRLMARTIN Daniel 184 ETIXX-QUICK STEP 58h 07' 54'' + 05' 03''
    10.(-2) ITAARU Fabio 21 ASTANA PRO TEAM 58h 08' 07'' + 05' 16''
  • d_o_g
    d_o_g Posts: 286
    Podium battle looking decent.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    I wonder if Valverde will feel he can finish higher than Quintana now?
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    adr82 wrote:
    I wonder if Valverde will feel he can finish higher than Quintana now?

    Depends on what he takes one would suspect!

    Oh, you meant on the GC.....
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    adr82 wrote:
    Froome getting booed again it sounds like?

    I'm not sure, it could just be people calling out 'Froome'.
    Time for this again

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  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    adr82 wrote:
    I wonder if Valverde will feel he can finish higher than Quintana now?

    He surely will. He's not going to be happy towing an underperforming rider around the Alps if there is a podium to be had.
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    TheBigBean wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    When am I allowed to declare this year's tour a bit dull?

    You can declare what you like but I don't think that many people would agree!

    There's always a load of jaded individuals on here rushing to declare the tour a bit dull though.

    That's very fair and true, hence I'm holding off for now until the appropriate time, but I do think that time is coming..

    I'd never declare a GT dull in first week - that would be silly.

    Quintana needs to find some form pronto!
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    TheBigBean wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    When am I allowed to declare this year's tour a bit dull?

    You can declare what you like but I don't think that many people would agree!

    There's always a load of jaded individuals on here rushing to declare the tour a bit dull though.

    That's very fair and true, hence I'm holding off for now until the appropriate time, but I do think that time is coming..

    I'd never declare a GT dull in first week - that would be silly.

    I was ok with the first week but now but I'm thinking this too now.
    I can't get excited when the GC is looking inevitable.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Every year the same "the Tour is over" comments. How many stages do we have left again?
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Reinstate the original stage 12 result. Then at least Mollema is right with Froome :lol:
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,570
    adr82 wrote:
    I wonder if Valverde will feel he can finish higher than Quintana now?

    You're assuming he didn't already think that.
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  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    smithy21 wrote:
    adr82 wrote:
    I wonder if Valverde will feel he can finish higher than Quintana now?

    He surely will. He's not going to be happy towing an underperforming rider around the Alps if there is a podium to be had.

    Anyone else perplexed as to how Valverde is so strong at the Tour after the Giro, when the likes of Dumoulin, Nibali, Zakarin are nowhere near on overall (and the other Giro contenders aren't even riding)? At his age as well. Its impressive / a little dubious.
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  • d_o_g
    d_o_g Posts: 286
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    I can't get excited when the GC is looking inevitable.

    GC was inevitable months ago. Froome is physically superior to them all, and a Tour specialist. History repeating - Armstrong (yes, assisted), Indurain, Hinault, Merckx etc. Froome is just this generation's exceptional rider.

    The rest is unexpected, really - Mollema vs Yates for 2nd, whodah thunk it?
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    Oh flippin eck ...

    1 minutes silence for the tragedy in Nice - and all we get is the f^cking photographers clicking away the whole time. Show some bl%ddy respect!
  • slap_my_bass_up
    slap_my_bass_up Posts: 141
    I thought Quintana's lack of racing this year would come back to bite him. No good dedicating most of your time to mountain training if you're not having the pace dictated by others.
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    BigMat wrote:
    smithy21 wrote:
    adr82 wrote:
    I wonder if Valverde will feel he can finish higher than Quintana now?

    He surely will. He's not going to be happy towing an underperforming rider around the Alps if there is a podium to be had.

    Anyone else perplexed as to how Valverde is so strong at the Tour after the Giro, when the likes of Dumoulin, Nibali, Zakarin are nowhere near on overall (and the other Giro contenders aren't even riding)? At his age as well. Its impressive / a little dubious.


    I go with impressive. I think he actually is an amazing talent. Yes he doped, but in the new cleaner world he is always up there but never by dint of some superhuman effort.

    I often wonder if he actually would have been more successful if today's lower doping tolerance had existed in his early career. I think his base before juice is pretty damn high.

    All conjecture of course.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    BigMat wrote:
    smithy21 wrote:
    adr82 wrote:
    I wonder if Valverde will feel he can finish higher than Quintana now?

    He surely will. He's not going to be happy towing an underperforming rider around the Alps if there is a podium to be had.

    Anyone else perplexed as to how Valverde is so strong at the Tour after the Giro, when the likes of Dumoulin, Nibali, Zakarin are nowhere near on overall (and the other Giro contenders aren't even riding)? At his age as well. Its impressive / a little dubious.
    It's not particularly out of character for Valverde, he usually maintains top-ten sort of form across the season without ever really threatening the top of GC.

    Which isn't to say I think he is clean, but he certainly doesn't appear to target events in the same way that other riders do.

    Dumoulin obviously feels he has no chance in GC this tour so isn't even trying, Zakarin was in a nasty crash near the end of the Giro, and Nibali, well, who knows what's going on at Astana. Freezer malfunction? :lol:
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    D O G wrote:
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    I can't get excited when the GC is looking inevitable.

    GC was inevitable months ago. Froome is physically superior to them all, and a Tour specialist. History repeating - Armstrong (yes, assisted), Indurain, Hinault, Merckx etc. Froome is just this generation's exceptional rider.

    The rest is unexpected, really - Mollema vs Yates for 2nd, whodah thunk it?

    Yeh, but it would be nice for GC winner contest to make into the last week (for a change).
    I'm not against Froome winning, I just want to get excited about the contest.
    Agree about the podium steps though.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    D O G wrote:
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    I can't get excited when the GC is looking inevitable.

    GC was inevitable months ago. Froome is physically superior to them all, and a Tour specialist. History repeating - Armstrong (yes, assisted), Indurain, Hinault, Merckx etc. Froome is just this generation's exceptional rider.

    The rest is unexpected, really - Mollema vs Yates for 2nd, whodah thunk it?

    Yeh, but it would be nice for GC winner contest to make into the last week (for a change).
    Like last year then? Could easily have gone to Quintana in the last 2 stages if Froome had weakened a bit more or had less help from his team.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,537
    I think it is far more suspicious when riders blow hot and cold from race to race. Valverde is pretty consistent all year round.

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